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Since we now have "Deflate-Gate"...

:D OmiGawd... :clap:
:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: :firstplace:
 
in your words... forget the rules... let every team do their own rules... is that your reasoning ????

osm
No. My reasoning is this....... Our country is fixated on overpaid professional sports heros and Hollywood stars. Anything meaningful that either contributes to society at large is negligible at best. The fixation should be on the grossly overpaid professional lawmakers thet we elect time after time even though they don't do anything except continue to line their pockets at our expense. And in America, the leader of the "democratic system", not even 50% of eligible voters bother to enter the polls. But 11 underinflated footballs......OH MY GOD!!!!!
 
No. My reasoning is this....... Our country is fixated on overpaid professional sports heros and Hollywood stars. Anything meaningful that either contributes to society at large is negligible at best. The fixation should be on the grossly overpaid professional lawmakers thet we elect time after time even though they don't do anything except continue to line their pockets at our expense. And in America, the leader of the "democratic system", not even 50% of eligible voters bother to enter the polls. But 11 underinflated footballs......OH MY GOD!!!!!

I agree with you. Some of the less important topics get so much more media attention.
 
No. My reasoning is this....... Our country is fixated on overpaid professional sports heros and Hollywood stars. Anything meaningful that either contributes to society at large is negligible at best. The fixation should be on the grossly overpaid professional lawmakers thet we elect time after time even though they don't do anything except continue to line their pockets at our expense. And in America, the leader of the "democratic system", not even 50% of eligible voters bother to enter the polls. But 11 underinflated footballs......OH MY GOD!!!!!
So if you don't like what they offer; don't watch them, or buy the products that advertise on those shows.
It's a very simple solution... :thumbup:
 
Are we missing the spirit of the thread a bit? :bowdown::bowdown:

We are discussing football, and some of the nuances of cheating vs. following the rules.

IMO: the political nuances and statements not concerning the subject at hand do not belong, and only serve to cause the problems that many have recently left the site over.

If you don't want to talk football and "deflate gate," this is the wrong thread.
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Sorry, folks. Please accept my apology for being passionate about my country and my personal sense of values. My comments weren't meant to be a rant, but simply a reflection of my thoughts on the silliness of the whole thing.

I have only recently became a Spyder owner and joined this forum to perhaps contribute information I learn and to also glean information from those who have experienced Spyders longer than I. I will attempt to contain my comments to Spyder stuff in future.
 
Sorry, folks. Please accept my apology for being passionate about my country and my personal sense of values. My comments weren't meant to be a rant, but simply a reflection of my thoughts on the silliness of the whole thing.

I have only recently became a Spyder owner and joined this forum to perhaps contribute information I learn and to also glean information from those who have experienced Spyders longer than I. I will attempt to contain my comments to Spyder stuff in future.

I am sure you have seen some threads go South very quickly. Unfortunately, many of these start out with a few statements that push the wrong buttons. Been there, done that, have the T-shirt.
 
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It's pretty easy to float from one topic to another I think it is ok to get off topic a little bit heck the last football thread I saw someone Hijacked it and made it about NASCAR. :roflblack::roflblack:
not naming names :roflblack:
 
Sorry, folks. Please accept my apology for being passionate about my country and my personal sense of values. My comments weren't meant to be a rant, but simply a reflection of my thoughts on the silliness of the whole thing.

I have only recently became a Spyder owner and joined this forum to perhaps contribute information I learn and to also glean information from those who have experienced Spyders longer than I. I will attempt to contain my comments to Spyder stuff in future.

KEYWORD BEING "ATTEMPT"
 
No. My reasoning is this....... Our country is fixated on overpaid professional sports heros and Hollywood stars. Anything meaningful that either contributes to society at large is negligible at best. The fixation should be on the grossly overpaid professional lawmakers thet we elect time after time even though they don't do anything except continue to line their pockets at our expense. And in America, the leader of the "democratic system", not even 50% of eligible voters bother to enter the polls. But 11 underinflated footballs......OH MY GOD!!!!!

has it ever occurred to you.. that going to the Super Bowl means at least a HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PLAYER FOR THE LOSING TEAM.. ..
so in your line of thinking its ok to cheat ... and screw the other team out of lots of dollars... sure glad you do not have anything with over seeing any rules of any kind of sports..

and has it ever occurred to you if you don't like these posts... DON'T READ THEM !!! :rolleyes:

osm
 
THIS ISSUE

:gaah:...What I find amazing is .......................................This is now almost as big a deal as what occurred in Furgeson Mo. a couple of months ago.........................They've obviously run out of NEWS !!!!!!!:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:......Mike
 
has it ever occurred to you.. that going to the Super Bowl means at least a HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PLAYER FOR THE LOSING TEAM.. ..
so in your line of thinking its ok to cheat ... and screw the other team out of lots of dollars... sure glad you do not have anything with over seeing any rules of any kind of sports..

and has it ever occurred to you if you don't like these posts... DON'T READ THEM !!! :rolleyes:

osm

Thank you for helping make my point about overpaid sports heros.
And No, it's never OK to cheat. Not ever. Not in sports or marriage or business or government.
 
There is no evidence of any (cheating ) as of yet.
So many of yous are the judge ,jury, and executioner.

Constitution i believe says innocent till proven quilty.
:banghead:

Lets move on. GET ON WITH THE SUPER BOWL:yes:
 
has it ever occurred to you.. that going to the Super Bowl means at least a HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PLAYER FOR THE LOSING TEAM.. ..
so in your line of thinking its ok to cheat ... and screw the other team out of lots of dollars... sure glad you do not have anything with over seeing any rules of any kind of sports..

and has it ever occurred to you if you don't like these posts... DON'T READ THEM !!! :rolleyes:

osm
The way I see it, osm, is you are a passionate follower of sports, particularly pro football. All kep is trying to say, I believe, and I tend to agree with him, is that in the grand scheme of American society the devotion and emphasis on sports is misplaced. There are many issues this society faces such as children not getting an education on par with other developed nations, millions of citizens who do not receive adequate medical care, bridges and highways that have deteriorated beyond their intended useful life, politicians who pass laws to perpetuate their own welfare, and on and on and on. Media, and a large part of society, prefer to look at, and support, the fun part of life - movies, music, and sports, and not pay attention to the really serious problems that eat away at the fabric of society.

I will say there is nothing wrong with supporting sports and entertainment, that is, as long as it is done without injuring the health and welfare of society as a whole. There's no question sports and entertainment add to the enjoyment of life and that is good. It's just that folks like kep and me see the widespread attention by the media to the issue of possible cheating in a major game as symptomatic of today's societal priorities that put sports such as the NFL games on a higher priority level than what we believe is healthy for the economy and civic awareness of this country.
 
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