Shock info

[Nyparrothead]

Hi all

i have a F3-s on the way and I am looking for feedback on the optional Fox Podium 2.0 RC2 shock. I am a big guy (340) and if Can Am is like every other manufacturer, the stock shocks leave a little to be desired.

does anyone have any experience with them both that could provide some much need feedback. I don't want to spend 1k on a shock if it's not functionally worth it


mark

 

[MikeP]

Manufacturers build motorcycles n Spyders to avg specs,,, people who are that much above avg should not expect stock shock specs to accommodate them... If Can Am built them to accomidate 300+ pounders Spyders would ride like a meat wagon for avg folks...

 

[Chupaca]

Hang in there..!!

it may be to early for much data on this. There are great shocks out there but pricy. Race Tec. Elkas, Fox and Progressive come to mind. You can't go wrong with them and they will set them up for your specs but are probably testing themselves...:thumbup:

 

[Nyparrothead]

Manufacturers build motorcycles n Spyders to avg specs,,, people who are that much above avg should not expect stock shock specs to accommodate them... If Can Am built them to accomidate 300+ pounders Spyders would ride like a meat wagon for avg folks...

I didn't say I was expecting anything.. I was asking for a comparison between the two.

for the record, nearly every bike made have suspensions that seem to be an afterthought. It is an easy way for them to save money, use crappy shocks. If they didn't, there would be no need for the MASSIVE aftermarket selection

mark

 

[MikeP]

I didn't say I was expecting anything.. I was asking for a comparison between the two.

for the record, nearly every bike made have suspensions that seem to be an afterthought. It is an easy way for them to save money, use crappy shocks. If they didn't, there would be no need for the MASSIVE aftermarket selection

mark[/QUOTE

Above is Your opinion... I find stock suspension fine unless one is pushing its intended purpose hence aftermarket support... Anyone weighing 340# has little use for stock anything...

 

[vondalyn]

The stock rear shock is a bit stiff for me at times, but I'm also waiting to hear more before I spend $1000+ on a new one. I hope someone will chime in soon with more info for all of us

 

[Netminder]

I didn't say I was expecting anything.. I was asking for a comparison between the two.

for the record, nearly every bike made have suspensions that seem to be an afterthought. It is an easy way for them to save money, use crappy shocks. If they didn't, there would be no need for the MASSIVE aftermarket selection

mark[/QUOTE

Above is Your opinion... I find stock suspension fine unless one is pushing its intended purpose hence aftermarket support... Anyone weighing 340# has little use for stock anything...

Personally I found the stock shocks on my 2012 RT lacking ( an I am being polite ) and I weigh in at about 190#, I think road conditions have a lot to do with it, but I definitely need something better. Have to agree with OP on this.JMHO.

 

[Nyparrothead]

I didn't say I was expecting anything.. I was asking for a comparison between the two.

for the record, nearly every bike made have suspensions that seem to be an afterthought. It is an easy way for them to save money, use crappy shocks. If they didn't, there would be no need for the MASSIVE aftermarket selection

mark[/QUOTE

Above is Your opinion... I find stock suspension fine unless one is pushing its intended purpose hence aftermarket support... Anyone weighing 340# has little use for stock anything...

Not sure what your problem is pal but you can shove your insult up your behind. you do not know me or anything about me and after your snobbish remarks, I can do without knowing you.

 

[MikeP]

Personally I found the stock shocks on my 2012 RT lacking ( an I am being polite ) and I weigh in at about 190#, I think road conditions have a lot to do with it, but I definitely need something better. Have to agree with OP on this.JMHO.

An RT is not a performance Spyder in any way but if you want to push it you def need to upgrade the shocks... It's not an ST or RS and never will be.. Not to belabor the point but if I weighed 340 I wouldn't expect anything out of any stock shocks either but to say they are inadequate is relative to what they are designed for and how hard the end user is pushing those limits

 

[Nyparrothead]

An RT is not a performance Spyder in any way but if you want to push it you def need to upgrade the shocks... It's not an ST or RS and never will be.. Not to belabor the point but if I weighed 340 I wouldn't expect anything out of any stock shocks either but to say they are inadequate is relative to what they are designed for and how hard the end user is pushing those limits

What about 2 up riding? you going to say 2 "normal in your book" people are not "pushing " the limits of the oem shock? Why did the put 2 seats on it?

 

[Nyparrothead]

An RT is not a performance Spyder in any way but if you want to push it you def need to upgrade the shocks... It's not an ST or RS and never will be.. Not to belabor the point but if I weighed 340 I wouldn't expect anything out of any stock shocks either but to say they are inadequate is relative to what they are designed for and how hard the end user is pushing those limits

he didn't say anything about "performance" he said he found the OEM shock to me lacking. What is it, you have a stake in SACHS suspension

 

[MikeP]

Not sure what your problem is pal but you can shove your insult up your behind. you do not know me or anything about me and after your snobbish remarks, I can do without knowing you.

I don't mean them as insults in the least bit / You can take them that way if you want ,, it's your choice... Seriously,,, you expect anything stock to accomidate you??? I don't mean to sound insulting,, I'm just KEEPIN it real...

 

[Ronbo]

Insult

Not sure what your problem is pal but you can shove your insult up your behind. you do not know me or anything about me and after your snobbish remarks, I can do without knowing you.

Good for you! The guy with the insulting remarks is an idiot! This forum is for people of good will to help each other. He gets the "ignore " award from me. This may be repetitive, but I think Elka takes your height and weight and figures out the shock and settings, and tailors the shock to meet your needs. Good luck in your search.

Ron

 

[MikeP]

Good for you! The guy with the insulting remarks is an idiot! This forum is for people of good will to help each other. He gets the "ignore " award from me. This may be repetitive, but I think Elka takes your height and weight and figures out the shock and settings, and tailors the shock to meet your needs. Good luck in your search.

Ron

I'm not an idiot nor trying to sound insulting... Just let me know of any manufacturer that sets their stock specs to accomidate a 340 pound rider and it's supposed to perform like it would a rider weighing 190ish... Again,,,, not trying to sound insulting in the least bit...

 

[MikeP]

he didn't say anything about "performance" he said he found the OEM shock to me lacking. What is it, you have a stake in SACHS suspension

By performance,, I mean going in and out of corners at a quicker more controlled pace than a stock Suspended RT.... Try not to be so sensitive....

 

[MikeP]

What about 2 up riding? you going to say 2 "normal in your book" people are not "pushing " the limits of the oem shock? Why did the put 2 seats on it?

I DO know that a 340# load spread out over a 1 1/2 foot section "Rider" and a 2 1/2 section "Rider and Passenger"will make quite a bit of difference in the way something handles... Your a lil sensitive for a big guy... You know you're not avg sized so trying to expect good performance out of anything that was not designed for a person your size isn't realistic... Nobody's callin you fat for Christ sakes but you're a really big guy... It doesn't have to have a negative connotation unless YOU give it one....

 

[spacetiger]

While many of the riders can live with the average minimal shock from a damping perspective, it is the weak SPRING that is the noticeable problem with our "shocks" that almost all riders notice as a problem.

I have swapped my oem springs to Eibach springs all around and am very pleased with how the bike rides. You have to spend a little time and effort; I spent ~$250 to do all three shocks. At least 1 other rider has done the same and he was pleased.

It is so easy to buy the expensive shocks, but they are not necessary. At your weight (don't know if you ride 2 up) you only need new springs.

Jerry

 

[Netminder]

By performance,, I mean going in and out of corners at a quicker more controlled pace than a stock Suspended RT.... Try not to be so sensitive....

I still stand by my above post! Not going to get in a pissing match with you,:shocked: but the day I bought my spyder( as well as the rental I had before buying) it bottomed out very easily. I know our roads are crap here in Quebec, but I definitely drive my RT very sensibly and vey unlike you say above. I have not bottomed out once since installing my Elkas. Just like you don't usually get quality tires when you by a new car, the same can be said about the stock Spyder shocks. ( at least they started usually Fox shocks on later models!) As spacetiger has said above there is many solutions. I like Elkas for the adjustability and the fact they can be restored to new, when needed.

 

[Nyparrothead]

I still stand by my above post! Not going to get in a pissing match with you,:shocked: but the day I bought my spyder( as well as the rental I had before buying) it bottomed out very easily. I know our roads are crap here in Quebec, but I definitely drive my RT very sensibly and vey unlike you say above. I have not bottomed out once since installing my Elkas. Just like you don't usually get quality tires when you by a new car, the same can be said about the stock Spyder shocks. ( at least they started usually Fox shocks on later models!) As spacetiger has said above there is many solutions. I like Elkas for the adjustability and the fact they can be restore to new, when needed.

You are absolutely right.. Some people are just bullies.... Sad

 

[MikeP]

You are absolutely right.. Some people are just bullies.... Sad

I think it's kinda funny you feel bullied Big Guy I truly meant no offense,,, if I did I wouldn't state otherwise over n over n over,,, but you must've missed those parts...I'm responsible for what I say / Not for what you understand...