Selenoid Valve

[wilfredopr]

I've been having problens with smoking (oil) since the dealer put to much oil in the engine a couple of months ago, that I remove within a couple of days but kept smoking on down hills. Two days ago I change the oil at 14000 and the spyder started leaking oil. I traced the leak to the selenoid valve that is at the rigth side of the engine under the bracket that support the air box, and received lines from the cluth cover and engine valve cover. Was told that it happen when too much oil is added. My question is. It is possible that this will be the reason for the smoking problem? I already send for the part.Thanks

 

[NancysToy]

Not enough information here to answer accurately. Where is it smoking, from the muffler, the exhaust pipes inside the body, the engine? I doubt your oil is leaking from the solenoid (can't tell from the description which one you are talking about). That is just wher it is driopping off. Once the oil is overfilled and gets into the airbox, it gets into everything. Same can occur with any other bad leak. The airbox, wiring looms, nooks and crannies all pool oil, then it drips back out seemingly forever. If it leaks on the exhaust pipe (or sometimes the hot engine) it smokes. You are going to have to strip the bodywork and clean every thing thoroughly...possibly repeatedly. Personally, if my dealer caused the problem, he'd be the one I'd make clean it up.

 

[boborgera]

The first thing i would do is open up the air box and see if it's loaded up with oil, If so clean it out with a rag, Then make sure you oil is at the proper level, Between the full and the low mark, It doesn't have to be at the full mark. A miscalculation of a few ounces ''over'' the full mark will cause blow bye

 

[boborgera]

I spent the summer tracking down oil leaks.
Mine were pretty much self inflicted but I did find one bad hose and one loose oetecker (sp?) clamp.

The synthetic oil used seems to find places to hide and then drip down just enough to be really frustrating.

As Scotty mentioned I would use engine cleaner and a hose to clean everything.
Then run the engine.
The highest point where you find oil is just below the leak.
I resorted to using Baby Powder to isolate the leak.

NAPA sells leak detection dye, You put in the crankcase and the leak will show with a black light, Less messy than baby power or talc.
And it doesn't leave a just changed a diaper odor:roflblack:

 

[wilfredopr]

The first thing i would do is open up the air box and see if it's loaded up with oil, If so clean it out with a rag, Then make sure you oil is at the proper level, Between the full and the low mark, It doesn't have to be at the full mark. A miscalculation of a few ounces ''over'' the full mark will cause blow bye

I have the aerocharger on my spyder . No oil goes to the trottle at all. the oil bubbles a little from the selenoid valve. I already send for the part. I just want to know if it was possible that the smoking (out of the exhaust) was cause by this part been defective, because it was overfilled. I guess that time will tell, when I get the new one install.

 

[boborgera]

I have the aerocharger on my spyder . No oil goes to the trottle at all. the oil bubbles a little from the selenoid valve. I already send for the part. I just want to know if it was possible that the smoking (out of the exhaust) was cause by this part been defective, because it was overfilled. I guess that time will tell, when I get the new one install.

If i checked the oil as soon as i turned off the Spyder ,The oil would foam/bubble.
The same with my Tri Glide, And with both of them no smoke.
What color is the smoke, Black, Running [way] too rich.
Blue, burning oil; Could be Rings if no oil is going through the throttle bodys.:dontknow:

 

[wilfredopr]

If i checked the oil as soon as i turned off the Spyder ,The oil would foam/bubble.
The same with my Tri Glide, And with both of them no smoke.
What color is the smoke, Black, Running [way] too rich.
Blue, burning oil; Could be Rings if no oil is going through the throttle bodys.:dontknow:

It is definitly oil, color and smell. The oil leak is from a seam on the valve itself. But the smoking is only when the spyder is extremly hot and is park downhill or after a sudden stop.

 

[NancysToy]

Smoking out the exhaust means that either oil was sucked into the intake and a lot ended up in the muffler, oil is continuously being sucked into the intake, or there is something seriously wrong in the engine or turbocharger that is allowing oil flow into the engine continuously. In your case, the first two are out, since you apparently no longer have a crankcase vent to the intake. I dopubt your solenoid has anything to do with it, but it has obviously failed. Not knowing the solenoid's function or connections, I couldn't comment further.

My first guess as to the source of the smoke would be that your turbocharger seal is toast. There are lots of other possibilities...bad valve guides, cracked head or cylinder, cracked piston, burned piston rings, etc. In a performance engine all are strong possibilities. Time to do a compression test and/or leakdown test, and possibly tear down the turbo. If you had mentioned your modifications in the first place, you could have gotten better advice.

 

[boborgera]

It is definitly oil, color and smell. The oil leak is from a seam on the valve itself. But the smoking is only when the spyder is extremly hot and is park downhill or after a sudden stop.

So your not burning oil, It's getting / leaking on the hot pipes and smoking.:dontknow:

 

[wilfredopr]

So your not burning oil, It's getting / leaking on the hot pipes and smoking.:dontknow:

Yes is burning oil. The leak is something new, and I found out the source

 

[wilfredopr]

Smoking out the exhaust means that either oil was sucked into the intake and a lot ended up in the muffler, oil is continuously being sucked into the intake, or there is something seriously wrong in the engine or turbocharger that is allowing oil flow into the engine continuously. In your case, the first two are out, since you apparently no longer have a crankcase vent to the intake. I dopubt your solenoid has anything to do with it, but it has obviously failed. Not knowing the solenoid's function or connections, I couldn't comment further.

My first guess as to the source of the smoke would be that your turbocharger seal is toast. There are lots of other possibilities...bad valve guides, cracked head or cylinder, cracked piston, burned piston rings, etc. In a performance engine all are strong possibilities. Time to do a compression test and/or leakdown test, and possibly tear down the turbo. If you had mentioned your modifications in the first place, you could have gotten better advice.

A leakdown/compression test are next in order. But the funny thing is that the smoking started after the dealer put to much oil. I remove the extra oil about 3/4 of a quart, but still does it , and this was 3000 miles ago

 

[NancysToy]

A leakdown/compression test are next in order. But the funny thing is that the smoking started after the dealer put to much oil. I remove the extra oil about 3/4 of a quart, but still does it , and this was 3000 miles ago

The excess oil could have been the trigger, or could have been coincidental. If there is too much oil in the tank, and the return is inhibited, the backup could have damaged the turbo seal. The leaking at the solenoid could be because of a blown turbo seal, too, depending on the plumbing and what the solenoid function is. No matter what the cause, the problem will not get better, and needs to be remedied.

 

[wilfredopr]

The excess oil could have been the trigger, or could have been coincidental. If there is too much oil in tghe tank, and the return is inhibited, the backup could have damaged the turbo seal. The leaking at the solenoid could be because of a blown turbo seal, too, depending on the plumbing and what the solenoid function is. No matter what the cause, the problem will not get better, and needs to be remedied.

Thank you