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SE6 Shifting on its own and not down shifting at all

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seesaw6089

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I have a 2015 RTL 11000 miles that just started acting up the other day. It has trouble shifting up with the paddle, downshifting when I bring the bike to a stop, and it will occasionally shift on its own from 5th to 6th and 3rd to 4th. None of these things are consistent and I haven’t been able to repeat them on command, it just kind of does it’s own thing.
We changed the oil at the beginning of last season with the recommended synthetic blend and put on about 2500 trouble free miles. We checked the oil level and it’s right where it should be. I’m planning on taking it to the dealer Tuesday but they’re saying it will be at least two weeks before they even touch it because it’s the beginning of the season.
Any ideas or suggestions before I take it in and lose my bike for close to a month?
 
Accidentally touching shifter, they will automatically down shift not up. So somehow it’s received commands to do so. Some have had these troubles with thick winter gloves.
 
I think, there's a bad connection, in the paddle used for shifting, making now and then a short....
don't think it's a glove thing, or else would it not be so random, I looked at the partslist, but cannot seem to find how the paddle up/down actually works.

Is there a cable breach, maybe due to placing a riser? Is there anything been changed, before the actual problem started?
 
Bfromla said:
Accidentally touching shifter, they will automatically down shift not up. So somehow it’s received commands to do so. Some have had these troubles with thick winter gloves.
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My fingers and thumb were all wrapped around the grip and I was not wearing gloves. Nothing was touching or near the paddle.
Editing to add: with it not downshifting on its own there is obviously something not doing what it’s designed to do. I’ve come to a complete stop multiple times now and still been in 6th gear which we all know shouldn’t be. During once instance of the bike shifting on its own my husband didn’t even have his hand on the handlebar so there’s no way anything touched the paddle.
 
Piratezz said:
I think, there's a bad connection, in the paddle used for shifting, making now and then a short....
don't think it's a glove thing, or else would it not be so random, I looked at the partslist, but cannot seem to find how the paddle up/down actually works.

Is there a cable breach, maybe due to placing a riser? Is there anything been changed, before the actual problem started?
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No modifications have been made since I bought the bike almost three years ago. My husband and I both experienced this so it’s not a user error either.
 
Some of the 15 RT's had a gear sensor recall. Had mine done but wasn't causing problems yet.
 
If it's not a gear sensor problem then there is probably something gone haywire in the left handlebar grip module. The paddle depresses little bubble switches on the processor board, which then send digital signals via the CANbus to the transmission control module. There have been very few, if any, reports on here of any of the computer modules on the Spyder going bad, but some of the bubble switches on those boards have gone bad.

Others here have reported the gear position sensor is not very pricey and is relatively easy to repair. If you're handy you might just order the sensor and change it out yourself.
 
SpyderJerry said:
If your shift lever feels like it does not return fully to center, you may have the same problem that I had.

https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?139591-Shifter-lever-fix&highlight=shifter+repair
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This feels like what’s going on here. I took it to the dealer this morning and got the run around by their service department. They did a quick lap around the parking lot and the guy came back and said the bike is fine, it’s doing this because I have “cruise assist” on. When I asked why it’s just started doing this when I’ve had the thing for three years he said it was because I don’t have the bike in “fully automatic mode. You know like a car?” Nice try dude but no.

It took my husband telling this guy that the problem initially happened to him so he’d take us seriously. They’re going to look it over and get back to me in a few weeks.

Did I mention this arrogant Jack a$$ is the service manager?
 
seesaw6089 said:
This feels like what’s going on here. I took it to the dealer this morning and got the run around by their service department. They did a quick lap around the parking lot and the guy came back and said the bike is fine, it’s doing this because I have “cruise assist” on. When I asked why it’s just started doing this when I’ve had the thing for three years he said it was because I don’t have the bike in “fully automatic mode. You know like a car?” Nice try dude but no.

It took my husband telling this guy that the problem initially happened to him so he’d take us seriously. They’re going to look it over and get back to me in a few weeks.

Did I mention this arrogant Jack a$$ is the service manager?
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IMHO ---- RUN from this Stealer .... as fast as you can ....if they arn't crooks .... then they are morons .... choose which one is worse ..... Good Luxk .... Mike :ohyea:
 
BLUEKNIGHT911 said:
IMHO ---- RUN from this Stealer .... as fast as you can ....if they arn't crooks .... then they are morons .... choose which one is worse ..... Good Luxk .... Mike :ohyea:
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That would be great but they’re the only can am place around and they’re still an hour from me. When they’re done working on it I’ll be contacting the GM and the owner to make my frustrations known. This service manager has only been there since November and I don’t see him making it to this November with this attitude.
 
seesaw6089 said:
This feels like what’s going on here. I took it to the dealer this morning and got the run around by their service department. They did a quick lap around the parking lot and the guy came back and said the bike is fine, it’s doing this because I have “cruise assist” on. When I asked why it’s just started doing this when I’ve had the thing for three years he said it was because I don’t have the bike in “fully automatic mode. You know like a car?” Nice try dude but no.

It took my husband telling this guy that the problem initially happened to him so he’d take us seriously. They’re going to look it over and get back to me in a few weeks.

Did I mention this arrogant Jack a$$ is the service manager?
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:gaah::sour::banghead: yes you need a different dealer. No way a parking lot test for described issues. :sour::sour::barf:
 
Seesaw, if they still have your bike I would go get it and find a new dealer, really!!! Good luck I hope this turns out better than I am thinking, even if I had to drive a couple hours!!:dontknow:
 
Mine is a 2015 RTL with about 40000 miles and it has started doing the exact same thing with a twist......if your blinker is on and you are in 4th gear and push to cancel the blinker it shifts into 5th gear and same thing from 5th to 6th gear. Sometimes but not always it won't downshift at all on it's own but will work fine if you shift manually. While upshifting you sometimes have to hit the paddle 2-3 times to make it change. What do I need to get this resolved?

did you ever get this resolved? what did they do to fix this?
 
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Mike, FWIW, the OP posted this in Apr 2021. Doesn't appear she ever came back since this thread.
But from what I've read on this forum, you are probably looking at a left handlebar switch module problem.
 
RayBJ said:
Mike, FWIW, the OP posted this in Apr 2021. Doesn't appear she ever came back since this thread.
But from what I've read on this forum, you are probably looking at a left handlebar switch module problem.
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Good catch. Even I missed that one. :bowdown:
 
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