Ryker limp mode info.

[Sarge707]

55 MPH at 5,200 RPMs is all you get! Slower if up hill.
After 2 Days and 160 Easy miles in ECO OFF mode I spun a VSS /ABS Fault followed by LIMP MODE. The usual Spyder methods to clear did not do any good and I don,t know what buttons to push to get a code on the Ryker like you can on Spyders. Anyway I limped 25 miles on secondary and Highway roads to the dealer- BRP computers were down so he could not connect to get the codes to post. The service manager is Excellent and will get it solved meanwhile they had the helper kid drive me the 10 miles home AND while they figure it out I can ride the F3 tomorrow.
The Ryker is a Hoot BUT I need a lot more miles before I say its better than my F3. Much different !!!
Anyone else get VSS Fault Limp Home Or am I the first lucky Guy???

 

[Peter Aawen]

During tire testing, especially brake testing and on the skid pan where the ABS/Traction Control often gets a work-out, we've found that many traction control systems that use the ABS can be worked hard enough that the ABS system starts getting hot & throws a code that drops the vehicle into limp mode. Once the ABS gets hot, it generally takes a loooong time for them to cool down (often requiring an overnight lie-down! ) and only once they've properly cooled off can the code be cleared & the limp mode re-set. pps:

I just wonder if your problem/experience is anything to do with that Sarge? Were you playing hard? Had the ABS been working a bit or for any length of time, or were you just out ryding? :dontknow:

 

[Sarge707]

During tire testing, especially brake testing and on the skid pan where the ABS/Traction Control often gets a work-out, we've found that many traction control systems that use the ABS can be worked hard enough that the ABS system starts getting hot & throws a code that drops the vehicle into limp mode. Once the ABS gets hot, it generally takes a loooong time for them to cool down (often requiring an overnight lie-down! ) and only once they've properly cooled off can the code be cleared & the limp mode re-set. pps:

I just wonder if your problem/experience is anything to do with that Sarge? Were you playing hard? Had the ABS been working a bit or for any length of time, or were you just out ryding? :dontknow:

Just easy riding in ECO OFF mode but the roads were a bit slick in places but I never noticed the traction control stepping in. At the 160 mile mark and was going to turn on sport at 200 miles? Battery terminals were tightened with 10mm socket- So Not loose.

 

[Peter Aawen]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you would've been very much aware of it if the ABS had been working hard enough to overheat. I doubt very much that any competent motorcycle rider could avoid that, cos as a rider you hafta be that much more aware of what your ride is doing underneath you & what's happening around you!

But I have been gob smacked at the number of cage drivers we've come across who just don't realise how even 'normal' ABS operation feels, much less how it'd feel if they had it activating continuously for a while!! My wife was present on one occasion this came up during a driving session at one of the courses I was running, and she really didn't want to drive on the road at all for a while afterwards!! Up until then, she'd been driving/riding under the misguided assumption that most drivers out there were basically competent!

 

[Sarge707]

Well at least we know that Limp Mode on the Ryker is 5200 +or- and that's 55 MPH on flat roads. Something for Ryker riders to keep in mind!

 

[Sarge707]

Problem solved. Dealer got a case# and even though the dealers "buds"? wasn,t connecting to the BRP one because it was down-They Emailed back and forth possible solutions and it turned out to pay off because it was a Loose Wire connection! I called BRP this afternoon and Sort of gave them a reminder about the case and the fault was found in a few hours. Pick it up tomorrow and 50s for Friday!!! Whooo Hoooo!!!

 

[Tslepebull]

Glad to hear your issue was simple to resolve. It is also encouraging to hear that limp home mode is 55 mph. On my truck it is only 25!

 

[Sarge707]

Glad to hear your issue was simple to resolve. It is also encouraging to hear that limp home mode is 55 mph. On my truck it is only 25!

I have never had a Limp Mode in 3 Different Spyders and over 60,000 Miles SO I was sort of happy that 55 could get me home without a need for a tow? It wasn,t rush hour anyway!

 

[Tslepebull]

I have never had a Limp Mode in 3 Different Spyders and over 60,000 Miles SO I was sort of happy that 55 could get me home without a need for a tow? It wasn,t rush hour anyway!

55 isn't a limp; it's more of a healthy trot

 

[Markubis]

Problem solved. Dealer got a case# and even though the dealers "buds"? wasn,t connecting to the BRP one because it was down-They Emailed back and forth possible solutions and it turned out to pay off because it was a Loose Wire connection! I called BRP this afternoon and Sort of gave them a reminder about the case and the fault was found in a few hours. Pick it up tomorrow and 50s for Friday!!! Whooo Hoooo!!!

Did they say what loose wire it was? Could it have been caused by you adding accessories or was it just a poor connection in a connectro?

 

[QuasiMotard]

Glad to hear your issue was simple to resolve. It is also encouraging to hear that limp home mode is 55 mph. On my truck it is only 25!

You took the words right out of my mouth... was just about to post the same thing. 55 MPH is sufficient to get back to civilization or down the road a bit without being too much of a "rolling roadblock" to traffic. :thumbup:

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QM

 

[QuasiMotard]

55 isn't a limp; it's more of a healthy trot

:agree: That's a reasonable speed to get back to civilization. I had a BMW M5 that went into limp mode due to a CAN-bus error... it went limp at 5000 RPM and/or 85 MPH. That was annoying, to be sure, but still a healthy trot back to the service center.

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QM

 

[Sarge707]

Did they say what loose wire it was? Could it have been caused by you adding accessories or was it just a poor connection in a connectro?

Loose connection near one of the front wheels that worked loose after 160 miles. Probably not connected properly in the build or loosened when they put the fenders on .
Just glad I,m doing about 90 miles tomorrow in the 50s and dropping---

 

[SpyderAnn01]

On the Spyders you could go faster in Limp Mode as long as you could keep the RPM down. On my 13, I was real good at going 75 in Limp Mode, I had a lot of practice, but with the CVT you can’t control that. In my opinion 55 isn’t fast enough, you’d get run over on the freeway at that speed.

 

[Freezefm]

Just got the same indication yesterday on my Ryker 600; negotiating a small S curve and it kicked out a "VSS Fault, Limp Home Mode." I could only get up to 41 mph. I pulled over, stopped the engine, pulled off the key and waited a few minutes. Turned it all back on and still throbbing the error. Luckily, I was only a couple of miles from home via a 45mph road. Waited overnight and tried again this morning; still giving me the code. Called the dealership and they're going to pick it up tomorrow.

Francis

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Just got the same indication yesterday on my Ryker 600; negotiating a small S curve and it kicked out a "VSS Fault, Limp Home Mode." I could only get up to 41 mph. I pulled over, stopped the engine, pulled off the key and waited a few minutes. Turned it all back on and still throbbing the error. Luckily, I was only a couple of miles from home via a 45mph road. Waited overnight and tried again this morning; still giving me the code. Called the dealership and they're going to pick it up tomorrow.

Francis

Interesting about this VSS code & Limp mode w/ a Ryker …………. I have had 3 Spyders GS - RSS & an RT now , and have had literally Hundreds of VSS errors over a 10 year period …. NEVER has the Spyder gone into LIMP Mode.... The Ryker VSS may be set-up differently because of the CVT trans ….. time will tell ….. I hope the Dealer can get this issue fixed …… Mike hyea:

 

[gskinner]

Have a feeling it was not a loose wire but a wire that was rubbed by the tire. I think I read somewhere else on the forum about the tire rubbing the turn signal light wire. I looked up in me right fender and could see several wires against the tire. The left side was OK but close. Good thing the weather and roads have been too bad to ride. I am going to pull the wheel tomorrow and get the wires tied up away from the tire. I could see one of the wires is the wheel speed sensor wire. Everyone may want to take a look before it is too late.

 

[cueman]

Thanks for the heads up. :thumbup: cueman

 

[ARtraveler]

Only one limp mode on all my spyders. The famous "riding the brake with new boots" incident. Around 20 mph was all that I could get out of the 2010 RTS.

 

[Freezefm]

….. I hope the Dealer can get this issue fixed …… Mike hyea:

They were able to fix it...although it took a week and a half waiting for the part. :gaah: It wound up being the "Yaw Rate Sensor" went bad. They also did the oil level inspection.

Francis