Ryker Issue Alert!

[ARtraveler]

I'm thinking a bit early to condemn BRP and the QC process. Things sometimes happen with first run production. As long as they make it right...give them a chance.

To early to call foul...IMO.

 

[old Timer]

Way too early to call a Foul.

 

[BajaRon]

Way too early to call a Foul.

Agreed. We don't even know if anyone has had a problem. And as far as we know, no one has found their gear box oil to be low. Everything beyond the check of certain VIN # machines is pure speculation. With the facts that we do have I commend BRP for what appears to be an overkill reaction on their part just to be sure this isn't a problem.

There is a great deal of assembly required to get a crated Ryker ready to ride. I'm sure there is a check list of things which are required by the dealer before delivery. If the gear box is supposed to be filled from the factory and it isn't on the check list. I am not going to fault the dealership or BRP if this is not an assembly requirement.

 

[Tslepebull]

I'm thinking a bit early to condemn BRP and the QC process. Things sometimes happen with first run production. As long as they make it right...give them a chance.

To early to call foul...IMO.

Yeah, remember the "no maintenance needed" final drives without a drain hole in the early Oilhead BMWs? BMW was very good about replacing them with the upgraded unit even after the warranty was up. They replaced the final drive on my 2005 GS even though my mileage had passed the 36K warranty; that was about a $1700 part. All I paid was the hour of shop time the technician took to remove and replace it.

 

[Tslepebull]

Agreed. We don't even know if anyone has had a problem. And as far as we know, no one has found their gear box oil to be low. Everything beyond the check of certain VIN # machines is pure speculation. With the facts that we do have I commend BRP for what appears to be an overkill reaction on their part just to be sure this isn't a problem.

There is a great deal of assembly required to get a crated Ryker ready to ride. I'm sure there is a check list of things which are required by the dealer before delivery. If the gear box is supposed to be filled from the factory and it isn't on the check list. I am not going to fault the dealership or BRP if this is not an assembly requirement.

I'll bet they check it now

 

[Michaelscs]

Way too early to call a Foul.

Agree! Glad you said something.

 

[WilliamTRyker]

We don't even know if anyone has had a problem. And as far as we know, no one has found their gear box oil to be low.

My dealer just picked my Ryker due to the Service Bulletin (just to be sure). What they told me was that they assembled several additional units after I took delivery of mine and they were all low on gearbox oil, however, none of them were dry. I don't know if that means anything I just want to add it as a data point.

 

[Sarge707]

My dealer just picked my Ryker due to the Service Bulletin (just to be sure). What they told me was that they assembled several additional units after I took delivery of mine and they were all low on gearbox oil, however, none of them were dry. I don't know if that means anything I just want to add it as a data point.

This would make you assume they are filled at the Factory, which is now Mexico per the copy of the title I received, and a Very easy tip to find the hole is -Turn the parking brake off (down) and it will point right at the level check hole.

 

[BajaRon]

This would make you assume they are filled at the Factory, which is now Mexico per the copy of the title I received, and a Very easy tip to find the hole is -Turn the parking brake off (down) and it will point right at the level check hole.

Yes, I would say it is pretty well established that the gear box is filled at the factory. The subject has been raised that this should also be checked by the dealership during setup. I'm not against this. But I do not think it should necessarily be required. I would say that there was a new product assembly glitch and it has now been addressed at the source. I think the problem is most likely, permanently resolved. So I would be good with leaving this off the setup list.

 

[Tslepebull]

More on the subject by an unhappy Ryker owner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeS60qzIp54
I don't agree with bashing the dealer but the information regarding the service notice appears to be correct.

 

[BajaRon]

More on the subject by an unhappy Ryker owner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeS60qzIp54
I don't agree with bashing the dealer but the information regarding the service notice appears to be correct.

This video has bad information. You don't take the fill cap off your car engine and expect to see oil to the top. The Ryker Gear Box is similar. Except that you have a Fill Level Plug remotely located from the Fill Plug instead of a dipstick remotely located. The Fill Plug hole is for filling the Gear Box Only. Not for checking the oil level.

I think the culprit here is the Owner's Manual giving bad advise. So I can't fault the guy in this video for the error in that respect. But I hope he pulls the video. Because this video is going to generate a great deal of unnecessary angst, and possibly damage as some will simply fill their gear box to the top of the fill plug, which will be very bad.

 

[Highwayman2013]

Is there no way for the customer to check this..?? is it a sealed unit ..?? don't know what is involved in doing the checking but the dealers will be busy when this gets spread around....:shocked:

I would check it myself. Can’t be that hard.

 

[ARtraveler]

Noted concerning the video. Going to consult with the others before pulling the plug on the video.

No further comment right now.

 

[BajaRon]

Brand new oil will be pretty thin on gears above the oil level. So I'm not necessarily surprised that there does not appear to be much oil film on the gears that you can see through the fill plug hole, which is about 2 inches above the proper oil level.

In any case. It would be a very sad thing if someone did damage to their gear box based on bad information. I am hoping this does not happen.

 

[ARtraveler]

Is this your video? ......

Not my video Ron. Submited by a member as an attachment in post #50

I am on it...meant the moderators are currently looking into it.

 

[Tslepebull]

Is this your video? ....

Baja Ron, I posted the video having stumbled on it while watching other reviews. The "Katy" that the video producer refers to is west of Houston and far away from Alaska. I posted the link to the video as a heads up that there was information on the internet regarding the issue; not to be inflammatory. Those of us that have been following the thread are aware of the issue and thanks to you and LaMonster we now know the correct information. If I was out of line in posting the link to the video, I apologize and accept the blame but spreading inflammatory mis-information was not my intention.

 

[BajaRon]

Baja Ron, I posted the video having stumbled on it while watching other reviews. The "Katy" that the video producer refers to is west of Houston and far away from Alaska. I posted the link to the video as a heads up that there was information on the internet regarding the issue; not to be inflammatory. Those of us that have been following the thread are aware of the issue and thanks to you and LaMonster we now know the correct information. If I was out of line in posting the link to the video, I apologize and accept the blame but spreading information was not my intention.

You were fine. I just got too emotional about it and said some things that I now regret. Potentially damaging information like what the video portrayes upsets me. But it does not justify my initial reaction or some of my comments. There is a real problem and that is the misinformation in the Owner's manual. I was wrong to disparage the video producer. But you have done nothing wrong.

I pulled the post that you quote and modified another post that I think was a bit inappropriate. I am hoping that is adequate.

 

[ARtraveler]

From two of the mods:

We are going to leave the video up for now.

 

[Tslepebull]

Baja Ron, no harm no foul from my standpoint. Y'all have been nothing but helpful to me. I am just sorry that the link I posted has caused so much consternation to the community.

 

[LeftCoast]

Baja Ron, no harm no foul from my standpoint. Y'all have been nothing but helpful to me. I am just sorry that the link I posted has caused so much consternation to the community.

It’s one of those interesting moments “should it stay, should it go”. In the spirit of this being a place to learn and get further educated, something that I appreciate daily here, I think it’s a good opportunity to understand how to and how not to check the fluid level as well as understanding potentially confusing info in the owners manual. Hopefully we all come away a bit smarter on the topic. So for the time being I think we are wrapping up in a good spot.