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Ryker dirt road and gravel
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Bob Denman
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...Very little: the ground clearance is still less than 4.5"
AY4B
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With decent tires and shocks it could ryde higher. BRP is depending on its costumers to make it their own.
Rob Rodriguez
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Bob Denman
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If you want to go Off-Road: it's time to get serious about the problem!
Off-road is a misnomer, more likely a "soft-roader". I think the lack of ground clearance will limit it to gravel driveways and well traveled packed dirt roads. Plus I doubt I will see these in Moab anytime soon. 3 wheels are a distinct disadvantage on a jeep trail, the front two will be down in the ruts, the rear will be up on the center berm.
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In addition, a single wide tire (low
PSI at contact patch)
pushing 2 tires and a lot of front weight is not going far in limited traction scenarios - sand, gravel, mud, etc. Have to add front wheel drive to make off roading and rally possible. Make it 3 wheel drive and it might work. But still issue described above. Have that problem w/my slightly rutted 900ft. driveway that could use a grading.Regards,
Don
Bob Denman
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It doesn't sound like you need a bike: you only need a bulldozer! 
Highwayman2013
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That was said about the F3 too.
Bob Denman
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I recall somebody saying that they were going to paint theirs "John Deere Green".
Navvet
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+1 on the shaft drive. I live at the back end of a mile and a half rugged gravel road and live in fear of getting a stone in the belt.
The only thing that would make our F3Ltd better would be a shaft drive.
With just over 4 inches of clearance and a three wheeled track this thing is as off road ready as my grandpa's Buick LeSabre. It's a sales pitch. The hottest selling bikes right now are the so called "adventure" bikes so BRP decided to toss a bit of the adventure into the description for this bike. But then like 90% of the adventure bikes the most off road these will see is a gravel driveway.
vondalyn
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salt flats or gravel
I think the biggest concern for current spyders off pavement is getting a rock in the belt and also the clearance. I regularly go up old fall river road in Rocky Mountain National Park during the summer months and at the beginning of the season, that's no problem but towards the end some of the ruts on the switchbacks cause concern and leave me happy I have the bump-skid in place.
The video clips of the Rykers have shown them drifting (which I've also done both off-road and sometimes unintentionally on the winter gravel covered paved roads around here). I'm thinking this might be one of the bigger draws for the demographics they're targeting. Maybe we'll see one or more of these in some future Fast and Furious movie
I think the biggest concern for current spyders off pavement is getting a rock in the belt and also the clearance. I regularly go up old fall river road in Rocky Mountain National Park during the summer months and at the beginning of the season, that's no problem but towards the end some of the ruts on the switchbacks cause concern and leave me happy I have the bump-skid in place.
The video clips of the Rykers have shown them drifting (which I've also done both off-road and sometimes unintentionally on the winter gravel covered paved roads around here). I'm thinking this might be one of the bigger draws for the demographics they're targeting. Maybe we'll see one or more of these in some future Fast and Furious movie
I think the biggest concern for current spyders off pavement is getting a rock in the belt and also the clearance. I regularly go up old fall river road in Rocky Mountain National Park during the summer months and at the beginning of the season, that's no problem but towards the end some of the ruts on the switchbacks cause concern and leave me happy I have the bump-skid in place.
The video clips of the Rykers have shown them drifting (which I've also done both off-road and sometimes unintentionally on the winter gravel covered paved roads around here). I'm thinking this might be one of the bigger draws for the demographics they're targeting. Maybe we'll see one or more of these in some future Fast and Furious movie
Where did you get your bump skid? I may need one!
vondalyn
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potholes washboards etc
I wonder how the Ryker will handle those. After the 2013 floods here in my area in Colorado, most of the canyons that I drive regularly were washed out in places and underwent years of repairs, in fact some are still being worked on 5 years later. The first repairs were to get the roads open again and that meant getting gravel roadbase in place just so vehicles could get up into the mountains. I regularly drove my RT and then F3 on these roads and besides the concern of getting a rock in the belt (which thankfully never happened), was dealing with a super-soft base after they added more roadbase -- there were a couple of times that the flaggers (who knew me by then) would warn me that they'd just laid down a new layer and it was super soft and I might get stuck. Not good when it's a one-lane road with a lead-vehicle leading a train of other vehicles heading up. I ended up being fine with that as long as we kept moving -- if we'd ended up having to stop, I'm not so sure I could have gotten going again because a single back wheel pushing two was difficult. I also had a rooster tail of road base behind me so the vehicle behind me was not happy and had to back way off. The second issue was washboards and/or ruts -- with 3 wheels, it's EXTREMELY difficult to find that sweet track that doesn't really jar the shocks/your back.
I'll be curious to hear about the "real world" experience on these. I have no interest in getting on since I'm still in love with my F3S, but they seem like a fantastic addition to the BRP lineup and should bring in new riders who just can't afford a Spyder. I run into a lot of younger guys who really like my F3 but get discouraged when they hear pricing. I'm going to be happy to mention another option to them next time.
I wonder how the Ryker will handle those. After the 2013 floods here in my area in Colorado, most of the canyons that I drive regularly were washed out in places and underwent years of repairs, in fact some are still being worked on 5 years later. The first repairs were to get the roads open again and that meant getting gravel roadbase in place just so vehicles could get up into the mountains. I regularly drove my RT and then F3 on these roads and besides the concern of getting a rock in the belt (which thankfully never happened), was dealing with a super-soft base after they added more roadbase -- there were a couple of times that the flaggers (who knew me by then) would warn me that they'd just laid down a new layer and it was super soft and I might get stuck. Not good when it's a one-lane road with a lead-vehicle leading a train of other vehicles heading up. I ended up being fine with that as long as we kept moving -- if we'd ended up having to stop, I'm not so sure I could have gotten going again because a single back wheel pushing two was difficult. I also had a rooster tail of road base behind me so the vehicle behind me was not happy and had to back way off. The second issue was washboards and/or ruts -- with 3 wheels, it's EXTREMELY difficult to find that sweet track that doesn't really jar the shocks/your back.
I'll be curious to hear about the "real world" experience on these. I have no interest in getting on since I'm still in love with my F3S, but they seem like a fantastic addition to the BRP lineup and should bring in new riders who just can't afford a Spyder. I run into a lot of younger guys who really like my F3 but get discouraged when they hear pricing. I'm going to be happy to mention another option to them next time.
Rutted roads
How would you fit three wheels into a two wheeled rut? Fronts in each rut and rear on the middle berm? Fronts on either berm and the middle tire in the rut? Or maybe just stay off unpaved roads altogether.
How would you fit three wheels into a two wheeled rut? Fronts in each rut and rear on the middle berm? Fronts on either berm and the middle tire in the rut? Or maybe just stay off unpaved roads altogether.
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vondalyn
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I drive with the 2 wheels in the ruts and the back tire on the grass, but I go slow because there are often hazards hiding in the grass. We have similar issues on our gravel/dirt back roads with wooden bridges where the "tire tracks" have extra boards on them to give more support and the middle track doesn't so when you drive the spyder across it, you have the back tire drop down into a groove and then back up when you get off the bridge. Definitely a bit unnerving the first time you navigate each bridge.
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