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RT Vent Kit Installation Help
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If your 2019 RT is basically the same shape/style as all the other 2010 to 2019 RT's, then they'll fit. :thumbup:
I think that's actually my question, restated.
Now I'm seeing some threads where the adjustable wind deflectors, adjusted so the air is directed into the existing small vents takes care of it. It does seem that the fixed stock air deflectors keep air out of those vents, so it makes some sense. For people that have them on the 2019ish RTL models, is this true? Does this keep your center-mount glovebox "cool"?
The only real change in the RT's tupperware shape occurred in 2020 - up until then, all RT's from 2010 to 2019 had pretty much the same shape & very similar tupperware (2014 to 2019's all had a 'slightly larger' version of the same shape tupperware as the earlier 2010 to 2013's
) so unless you've somehow scored a completely different set of tupperware to every other RT of that generation, then as I said earlier, "If your 2019 RT is basically the same shape/style as all the other 2010 to 2019 RT's, then they'll fit. :thumbup:"Just sayin'
Those little wind deflectors, either the fixed or the adjustables, really don't do much at all to enhance or restrict the airflow into the under-tupperware area, nor with cooling the centre-mount glove-box; but the bigger air scoops that were designed to channel extra air into the under-tupperware area on the 2013 Spyders as part of the Heat Recall, work very well at doing just that on them, and on pretty much every other RT of that same shape that I've seen. Whether that's enough cooling for your 2019's glovebox, I can't really say; but the shape of all the other 2019 RT's that I've seen is pretty much the same as that of the 2013's so they should! :thumbup:
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Those adjustable deflectors do seem to work very well at directing air onto or away from the Rider, but in my experience, they really don't do much for cooling the glovebox on any of the RT's! :sour:
The gloveboxes are 'heated' by the radiant heat rising off the engine that gets collected & trapped under the glovebox until it either properly warms any pies you've put in the glovebox (which is why they're known colloquially around here as 'the pie warmer'...
) or said heat can escape out of the gap between/around the rear of the glovebox/the front of the seat; so anything you can do to improve the under-tupperware airflow will help cool the glovebox far more than those little wind deflectors can - hence the popularity of the big 'Heat Recall Scoops'. Those adjustable deflectors do seem to work very well at directing air onto or away from the Rider, but in my experience, they really don't do much for cooling the glovebox on any of the RT's! :sour:
The gloveboxes are 'heated' by the radiant heat rising off the engine that gets collected & trapped under the glovebox until it either properly warms any pies you've put in the glovebox (which is why they're known colloquially around here as 'the pie warmer'...
I was hoping that having the deflector "open" would allow the little vents behind them to get more air forced inside them, this cool things off under the tupperware. It seems like opinions are varied on the success of this. I was hoping to hear from some first-hand accounts of people that have done this.
I do recall seeing a thread where someone had insulated the top half of their bike, including under the glove box, but cannot find it now.
PMK
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It seems that the scoop kit based on the fires associated with the 2013 RT models get varied degrees of complete installation.
The two externally visible scoops do force cool air under the bodywork. However, to properly install the scoop kit, the two acoustic panels are removed allowing even better airflow to the glovebox area.
The complete scoop kit includes two steel supports. By the original design, the two acoustic panels served two functions, most important is they are the supporting structure for the entire upper bodywork. This is why the steel supports must be installed, to support the upper bodywork.
Realize also, when stationary, say in traffic, you no longer have the double wall of both acoustic panel and the outer bodywork.
For comparison, we live in SoFlo, and it gets really hot. I never installed the scoop kit on our 2014 RTS, but we have run the adjustable deflectors since the Spyder was almost new. Kind of nice being able to direct airflow towards the back seat.
The two externally visible scoops do force cool air under the bodywork. However, to properly install the scoop kit, the two acoustic panels are removed allowing even better airflow to the glovebox area.
The complete scoop kit includes two steel supports. By the original design, the two acoustic panels served two functions, most important is they are the supporting structure for the entire upper bodywork. This is why the steel supports must be installed, to support the upper bodywork.
Realize also, when stationary, say in traffic, you no longer have the double wall of both acoustic panel and the outer bodywork.
For comparison, we live in SoFlo, and it gets really hot. I never installed the scoop kit on our 2014 RTS, but we have run the adjustable deflectors since the Spyder was almost new. Kind of nice being able to direct airflow towards the back seat.
My research shows that they had eliminated the acoustic panels by my 2019, so that's not in play. I also don't recall seeing anything like that. I've got some sticky heat insulation on order and am going to attempt to redo the tupperware backing foam with it where I can. I will also see if I can fashion a way to insulate the glovebox, or at least keep the heat in the bottom portion of the bike.
Woodaddict
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there are pcs of styrofoam under the glove box already. take off the outer plastic, and feel under another covering and they are there. 2019 is same style as my 2015. best idea is to get some baker air wings to bring in the air, which are not made anymore, you would have to find used. the 1330cc is not bad for heat displacement. HOT days will be HOT
That's fair, it has been hovering around 100 F lately. But I'm tired of our SPF chapstick completely melting in there, and the part of the seat in front of my add-on seat cushion being almost "burn your hands" hot. Even my ignition key gets pretty damned hot to the touch. I first though it must just be the sun beating down on these, but when I lift the seat for fuel stops, the raised metal square section running down the middle under the seat is pretty close to "burn your hands" hot too.
It dropped into a cloudy high 80s today, so I'm going for a ride after work to re-assess how much is the environment, and how much is the engine.
I found a dealer that supposedly still has a few of these for $84 + tax + $5 shipping sitting on their shelves. There was some confusion, as his system showed part 219800388 as "RT Vent Kit", but then loaded it up as "fender flares" when he tried to order it from his warehouse. I've got one on the way, and will let you know if it's the real deal or not. PM me if interested in where I found it. But all the dealers have a global inventory search, so my local dealer told me who to call.
PMK
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Seems you have a plan that is in place for your 2019.
Kind of a bummer your 2019 does not have acoustic panels since they are effective to keep the outer bodypanels where your inner thigh touches cooler and are a form of double insulated.
No part of our bodywork, key switch etc gets anywhere near hot enough to burn us.
The glovebox on ours is styrofoam insulated, but would wager just ambient heat from the sun would melt a chapstick.
Hope you get the results you desire. For the wife and I, the intense heat from the asphalt radiates far more heat than our Spyders bodypanels, or heat from underneath.
But again, follow your plan and share with others if it works for you.
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Chip, read post #34!
Post 34 doesn't have the mythical template that everyone is after, but does show how to mark your own cut lines. I'm hoping my kit comes with one, or might just put it on over the existing vent to see if that provides enough fresh air.
PMK
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Shame none of the smart guys here did not 3D print scoops that could snap on to existing oem honeycomb style grille, instead of cutting up the bodywork.
Another non invasive option would be to utilize the 3 position adjustable vents, and add a short deflector so that in full open position, those adjustable deflectors would force airflow down thru the honeycomb grilles. Far cheaper to modify the adjustable deflectors vs cutting the big hole in the bodypanel.
Another non invasive option would be to utilize the 3 position adjustable vents, and add a short deflector so that in full open position, those adjustable deflectors would force airflow down thru the honeycomb grilles. Far cheaper to modify the adjustable deflectors vs cutting the big hole in the bodypanel.
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