RT Sway Bar?

[Road-Kill]

Sitting on the fence is comfortable....and safe.

Road-Kill, It seems that all of the unpaid/unsolicited testimonials for sway bars have swayed you. I noticed that BajaRon offers a 30-day money back guarantee. If it were me, I would buy his swaybar and metal heim links and test them out hard for about 20-25 days and make up your own mind as to their value. If you don't think they are significantly additive, then you can put back the stock parts and send the BajaRon parts back for a refund less your cost of shipping the parts back. I applaud you for having enough of an open mind to entertain a couple of products that might make your ryding experience more fun. Much good luck.

Hello Capt Bob. I'm still sitting on the fence. I called my dealer and just spoke with the head mechanic who says he installed several on RTs. He said nobody ever complained about them and "generally" liked the improvement. He has never installed one on the F3 because nobody ever wanted one. As far as the warranty.....there is none. The 30 days offered by Value Accessories is for unopened uninstalled merchandise so forget any grievance being resolved. I'm going to sit on the fence a bit longer till I actually talk to F3 owners who installed them.

 

[monkeyboymorton]

I called my dealer and just spoke with the head mechanic who says he installed several on RTs.

Why not ask if he's got any of those discarded standard RT ones (from 2014-on models - previous aren't compatible) he took off knocking around that you can get cheap? At least you won't be $300+ out of pocket if you don't think it makes enough of a difference. You might get one for nothing if they get the labour charge to fit it?

 

[Road-Kill]

Why not ask if he's got any of those discarded standard RT ones (from 2014-on models - previous aren't compatible) he took off knocking around that you can get cheap? At least you won't be $300+ out of pocket if you don't think it makes enough of a difference. You might get one for nothing if they get the labour charge to fit it?

He does not sell sway bars. He will install anything I purchase elseware though. Labor he says will be roughly an hour. I'm looking at less then $400.00 USD for something I'm still undecided about. I dont have a problem with my ryde which makes adding a new sway bar even more difficult.

 

[monkeyboymorton]

He does not sell sway bars. He will install anything I purchase elseware though. Labor he says will be roughly an hour. I'm looking at less then $400.00 USD for something I'm still undecided about. I dont have a problem with my ryde which makes adding a new sway bar even more difficult.

I was more meaning that previous RT owners who swapped to the Ron Bar might not have taken their old one with them, so he might have them knocking about somewhere. But if not, and you can't find an RT owner with one going spare, then it is a considerable cost if you're unsure.

As stated before my RT bar was free from a member on here following a wanted ad in the classified section. Couldn't go wrong at zero dollars. Fitting it was a PITA as you need bike 2 feet in the air.

 

[Road-Kill]

Buy or don't buy, but to accuse them of being in a giant BajaRon swaybar conspiracy is a bit much.[/QUOTE]


I never accused BajaRon of anything. I simply said there are companies out there that do that. Even this website which is run by LaMonster states they track IP addresses to guard against trolling or whatever. Most quality websites do the same thing to prevent logging on with different screen names. People/Companies do post information to "sway" (no pun intended) people to do what they want. Then re-log on with a different screen name to create the panic that drives people to do what they want. This is why I ask questions, a lot of questions. My thought.

 

[monkeyboymorton]

And if you're happy with it as it is then I would leave it alone. I was distinctly unhappy with the amount of body roll so I knew I needed to upgrade something be it anti-roll, shocks etc. The RT bar did enough to make it good enough for now, although it could be even better.

 

[BajaRon]

He does not sell sway bars. He will install anything I purchase elseware though. Labor he says will be roughly an hour. I'm looking at less then $400.00 USD for something I'm still undecided about. I dont have a problem with my ryde which makes adding a new sway bar even more difficult.

How about this...

I will send a sway bar kit to you (or I can ship it to your dealer if you prefer). No charge.

If you like the bar and keep it, you pay for it. If you don't like it, I will pay the labor to put your stock bar back on and the return shipping. All you'll have into it is the labor to put it on if you decide to send it back.

But, I must warn you. You run the risk of becoming part of the Kool-Aid drinking, BajaRon conspiracy if you decide to take up my offer.

 

[jcthorne]

Hello Capt Bob. I'm still sitting on the fence. I'm going to sit on the fence a bit longer till I actually talk to F3 owners who installed them.

The return it if you don't like it warranty is offered by BajaRon, the supplier, not Value Accessories.

Louise and I both have BajaRon bars on our F3s. I rode mine 6000 miles before installing as Pitbull had told me I had one installed by them before delivery. I never really thought to check until one day..... Louise only rode hers a few days without one.

Be both noticed a very significant improvement in stability, confidence inspiring ride and cornering ability. I have lost count of how many I have installed for folks. Not one return. Simply everyone that has gotten one has immediately noticed the improvement and would not go back.

 

[Capt. Bob]

" I dont have a problem with my ryde which makes adding a new sway bar even more difficult." Road-Kill

Road-Kill, the issues of body roll are an individual thing and those that ride more aggressively will notice the biggest difference. However, even though you are not experiencing any "problems" concerning the ride characteristics, what many of us have found is that a beefier anti sway bar and improved heim links make for an even better ride. Not really a "problem" ryde box stock but definitely an improved ryde with the above-mentioned components. It seems that BajaRon is offering an almost can't miss opportunity to find out for yourself how much improvement and added stability are added to your F3. Doesn't sound like it will cost you hardly anything to get off the fence and decide for yourself. I am kind of laughing because it is pretty bold of BajaRon to offer such a guarantee:yikes: I guess he is a pretty confident person and there are so many happy installs that I guess he feels that there is not much risk on his part?

 

[Firefly]

lets end this with this.

Can-Am engineers understand that loss of control due to a manufacturers defect will result in mass-lawsuits. A control/powertrain device is not worth saving a few pennies on with any major manufacturer. If lab coat wearing engineers decided that the sway bar and linkage needed to be as they are then so be it. If Can-Am thought people might need a different "feel" they would offer different sway bars like they offer different shocks. I purchased my ryde with that in mind and will not alter anything performance related. No amount of your crying is going to change my mind. You do what you want but my farkle as listed in my profile enhance my comfort without altering the performance. I understand that there are those "amongst us" that are wolves using fake profiles to sell/push their wares on unsuspecting newbies. This will not work with me because I know the trade, I know people and I know how to read between the lines.

P.S. My last post on this topic. My thoughts.

Well.. Can-Am DOES (Kit No. Can Am 219400409)
offer a different sway bar as part of a handling upgrade that comes with a set of their FOX shocks.... just FYI.

I upgraded the bar on by 2008 GS and it made a difference. Upgraded on my RT and it eventually snapped one of the plastic joints. Put the better joints on and it was back to being great.

Just installed an old RT bar that someone gave me onto my F3 using the Ron joints. So far so good.

Sway bars and the technology behind them is nothing new. I've added them to cars before too in order to get better handling.

 

[odogg1963]

Hmmmm

Love this thread!!
We ride 2-up and the upgrade swaybar was an incredible improvement for comfort and safety..Love it.:2thumbs:
Most all of the farkles I have added are safety related.Notice I said most.

Odogg1963:doorag:

 

[Road-Kill]

How about this...

I will send a sway bar kit to you (or I can ship it to your dealer if you prefer). No charge.

If you like the bar and keep it, you pay for it. If you don't like it, I will pay the labor to put your stock bar back on and the return shipping. All you'll have into it is the labor to put it on if you decide to send it back.

But, I must warn you. You run the risk of becoming part of the Kool-Aid drinking, BajaRon conspiracy if you decide to take up my offer.

Hello BajaRon. I thank you for the offer. I decline anything for free, trust me when I say its not a money thing, I only want at least "some" bang for my buck. I just arrived home from a ride with a buddy. He has a Harley Tri-glide. He noticed after we hit the twisties that my ryde does not lean. I maintained a very careful observation of my ryde as I cornered and could not detect any lean as well. I do not understand what a stiffer sway bar and metal joint links will do if I already have no lean. My thought.

 

[BajaRon]

Hello BajaRon. I thank you for the offer. I decline anything for free, trust me when I say its not a money thing, I only want at least "some" bang for my buck. I just arrived home from a ride with a buddy. He has a Harley Tri-glide. He noticed after we hit the twisties that my ryde does not lean. I maintained a very careful observation of my ryde as I cornered and could not detect any lean as well. I do not understand what a stiffer sway bar and metal joint links will do if I already have no lean. My thought.

Not a problem. If you change your mind the offer still stands.

But you must realize it is a physical impossibility for your Spyder not to lean. The only way you can accomplish a 'No Lean' situation is to replace your front shocks with steel bars. The whole reason a Spyder has A-Arms and shocks is to allow your Spyder to lean.

Have a great riding season!

 

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

Buy or don't buy, but to accuse them of being in a giant BajaRon swaybar conspiracy is a bit much.

I never accused BajaRon of anything.[/QUOTE]

I wasnt saying you did. It sounded to me like you were saying everyone on this site was promoting Ron when all they were doing was giving their opinions. My bad if I was unclear about that.

 

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

How about this...

I will send a sway bar kit to you (or I can ship it to your dealer if you prefer). No charge.

If you like the bar and keep it, you pay for it. If you don't like it, I will pay the labor to put your stock bar back on and the return shipping. All you'll have into it is the labor to put it on if you decide to send it back.

But, I must warn you. You run the risk of becoming part of the Kool-Aid drinking, BajaRon conspiracy if you decide to take up my offer.

Ron, you were not the vendor I was referring to. I have only bought one item from you, and you provided excellent customer service. Now I gotta get ready to go to work. Peace everyone!

 

[BajaRon]

Ron, you were not the vendor I was referring to. I have only bought one item from you, and you provided excellent customer service. Now I gotta get ready to go to work. Peace everyone!

I am good! And I hope everyone else is good as well! There is too much in life that is actually important to get all hot and bothered about whether or not to install a few feet of steel bar on your Spyder. I don't see why we can't all end the day friends. Even friends don't always agree. But friends should always agree to be friends! :thumbup:

 

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

I am good! And I hope everyone else is good as well! There is too much in life that is actually important to get all hot and bothered about whether or not to install a few feet of steel bar on your Spyder. I don't see why we can't all end the day friends. Even friends don't always agree. But friends should always agree to be friends! :thumbup:

I think a verse or two of Kumbaya is in order. I cant sing so I will let someone else start.

 

[BajaRon]

I think a verse or two of Kumbaya is in order. I cant sing so I will let someone else start.

I get somewhat squishy this late at night I guess. I'll be mean again when I'm rested up!

 

[Bam Bam and Pebbles]

I get somewhat squishy this late at night I guess. I'll be mean again when I'm rested up!

Im always mean. Course I usually only sleep a couple of hours. Could that be the reason??

 

[Capt. Bob]

Hello BajaRon. I thank you for the offer. I decline anything for free, trust me when I say its not a money thing, I only want at least "some" bang for my buck. I just arrived home from a ride with a buddy. He has a Harley Tri-glide. He noticed after we hit the twisties that my ryde does not lean. I maintained a very careful observation of my ryde as I cornered and could not detect any lean as well. I do not understand what a stiffer sway bar and metal joint links will do if I already have no lean. My thought.

Road-Kill, As Ron pointed out, these Spyders do in fact lean into turns. I also have a 2017 Tri-Glide and it leans as well but not as elegantly because of its crude suspension in comparison to my F3S Spyder. When someone is not experiencing lean, it might suggest that what you consider to be "twisties" aren't very twisty? I live in North Florida and our roads have some very nice sweepers but I would say that we don't have any really tight stuff like I find up in the mountains. I have taken my Tri-Glide up to the mountains including Deals Gap, Cherohala Skyway and some other "twisty" roads and surprised two-wheelers on how smartly I could move that trike through the bends. However, I have yet to take my F3S up to those same mountains which is definitely in my plans.

One of the things about certain roads is that they can put less demands on the trike's suspension. Although I can ryde my Spyder in a spirited manner, I have yet to have the "Nanny" come on. I ryde fairly smoothly and that may be some of it but I have yet to experience the traction-control system overriding my inputs which might either suggest that I am not in twisty enough roads and/or are not pushing the Spyder closer to its limits? Just some random thoughts when you suggested that your Spyder was not leaning.