Tango
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I know what you are talking about. Butt, when I first read it. I was like Bob, really? :hun: More visibility to the package. Then it was like, oh, wrong package. :roflblack: Tom :spyder:
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Riding gear
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I know what you are talking about. Butt, when I first read it. I was like Bob, really? :hun: More visibility to the package. Then it was like, oh, wrong package. :roflblack: Tom :spyder:
Bob Denman
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:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
I honestly hadn't thought of THAT interpretation! :clap:
I honestly hadn't thought of THAT interpretation! :clap:
crazycanuck
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where are we with this
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opcorn:Bob Denman
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Riding gear is good! :thumbup:
It all depends on how you define "gear".
It all depends on how you define "gear".
crazycanuck
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How about people wear what they want to wear and can afford. Safety is looked at differently by each individual.
Bob Denman
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That's why I said: It all depends on how you define "gear". Define it however it suits you best! :thumbup:
wyliec
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where are we with this
This is how I gear up:
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgur...j4KHXhSBQoQ_B0IhgEwCg&ei=7i96Waf5LMmV-wH4pJVQ
The helmet is in my hand. It's an Arai Profile that I had wrapped.
ARtraveler
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We went round and round on the subject not to far back. Lot's of people, lot's of very good opinions.
You need to decide what is good and prudent for you.
The term ATGATT (all the gear, all the time) is used a lot. How you follow it--is up to you.
I don't use armor. Dressing up like the Michelen Man is not going to save my bacon in an all out, ejection, direct crash into a wall, rock, or tree. When its my time, and if it happens that way, just consider that I passed happy--doing what I liked most.
Good boots, a helmet, gloves are a minimum--to help with road slide. What you wear for the legs, and torso are up to you. There are very good textile and leather options. I have several of each.
RE: High VIS: I went through that phase. Have three yellow helmets, and a couple high visibility mesh vests--one orange, and one yellow. Have not worn either for four years or so.
Good luck on the hunt. Be safe out there. :thumbup:
You need to decide what is good and prudent for you.
The term ATGATT (all the gear, all the time) is used a lot. How you follow it--is up to you.
I don't use armor. Dressing up like the Michelen Man is not going to save my bacon in an all out, ejection, direct crash into a wall, rock, or tree. When its my time, and if it happens that way, just consider that I passed happy--doing what I liked most.
Good boots, a helmet, gloves are a minimum--to help with road slide. What you wear for the legs, and torso are up to you. There are very good textile and leather options. I have several of each.
RE: High VIS: I went through that phase. Have three yellow helmets, and a couple high visibility mesh vests--one orange, and one yellow. Have not worn either for four years or so.
Good luck on the hunt. Be safe out there. :thumbup:
full gear?
The nurses in the ER are so sick of seeing road rash they scrub the gravel out with stiff brushes and a vengeance.
I cringe at the thought of having to have an extremity immobilized in a cast with a whole bunch of raw skin on the inside.
Proper jacket AND pants for me, thanks.
The nurses in the ER are so sick of seeing road rash they scrub the gravel out with stiff brushes and a vengeance.
I cringe at the thought of having to have an extremity immobilized in a cast with a whole bunch of raw skin on the inside.
Proper jacket AND pants for me, thanks.
Hey Pete, question I have is whether armored jacket and pants make sense on the Spyder. I'm not sure they do.
BTW, got your old Cognac registered today. I like the looks of your new ride.
AZ Y Factor
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SteveP
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Go with Joe
I have the Joe Rocket armoured for me and my wife , we always wear them when on any highway or road 80 km per hour or more ( definitely on 401) and when it's cooler weather . We have fluorescent rain suits packed in the Givi side bags as well. We do Ryde with no jackets in ( Oshawa, Bomanville ) etc if it's really hot out ... but it feels a little scary sometimes even at lower speeds with cars and trucks. Buzzing around . GP Bikes and Royal distributing often have sales on with great discounts, I think we got both jackets for a little over $500
I have the Joe Rocket armoured for me and my wife , we always wear them when on any highway or road 80 km per hour or more ( definitely on 401) and when it's cooler weather . We have fluorescent rain suits packed in the Givi side bags as well. We do Ryde with no jackets in ( Oshawa, Bomanville ) etc if it's really hot out ... but it feels a little scary sometimes even at lower speeds with cars and trucks. Buzzing around . GP Bikes and Royal distributing often have sales on with great discounts, I think we got both jackets for a little over $500
There's a lot of research out there that supports the idea that while mesh, kevlar, & leather, etc can protect against the heat & cold, scrapes & road rash sorta stuff with varying degrees of success, it's actually the armour you wear that helps mitigate the broken bones & traumatised joints/tissue damage that contact with anything at speed can bring! :lecturef_smilie:
Since ryding on a Spyder is very similar to riding a two wheeled bike in that if anything goes wrong & you come off it or get hit by/hit anything, then the very first thing you contact at speed is likely to be the scenery or surrounds, whatever that/they may be.... ie there is nothing between you & said scenery/surrounding traffic/roadside obstacles etc! So wearing gear with appropriate temperature control & slide protection features is a great idea to help with temperature control & reducing slide damage, but if you want to be protected pretty much at all from the 'contact injuries' that are far more likely on a Spyder vs while driving a car, IF you have an 'accident', then it's the armour in/on/under your gear that will be saving you or at least minimising the damage & so is extremely important to your continued well being!
But really, just like wearing helmets, it all comes back to this.... if you think your limbs, body, or head etc is worth protecting at all, then you'll get & wear the best & most comprehensive protective gear you can afford all the time you are exposing any of those bits to risk, & if that means wearing a mesh jacket & kevlar lined jeans etc, WITH armour or without armour, whenever you ryde, then so be it! If you don't value them or don't think there's any risk to them, then don't wear the gear! :dontknow:
It's all down to how much you value yourself & how significant the risks you think you might be facing may be! What was the old saying??! $5 brain? Then wear a $5 bucket! Similarly, $5 body? Then wear $5 armour/gear & ultimately, a $5 bag! :shocked: Your choice, your risk.... except where 'the State' has intervened! :thumbup:
Since ryding on a Spyder is very similar to riding a two wheeled bike in that if anything goes wrong & you come off it or get hit by/hit anything, then the very first thing you contact at speed is likely to be the scenery or surrounds, whatever that/they may be.... ie there is nothing between you & said scenery/surrounding traffic/roadside obstacles etc! So wearing gear with appropriate temperature control & slide protection features is a great idea to help with temperature control & reducing slide damage, but if you want to be protected pretty much at all from the 'contact injuries' that are far more likely on a Spyder vs while driving a car, IF you have an 'accident', then it's the armour in/on/under your gear that will be saving you or at least minimising the damage & so is extremely important to your continued well being!
But really, just like wearing helmets, it all comes back to this.... if you think your limbs, body, or head etc is worth protecting at all, then you'll get & wear the best & most comprehensive protective gear you can afford all the time you are exposing any of those bits to risk, & if that means wearing a mesh jacket & kevlar lined jeans etc, WITH armour or without armour, whenever you ryde, then so be it! If you don't value them or don't think there's any risk to them, then don't wear the gear! :dontknow:
It's all down to how much you value yourself & how significant the risks you think you might be facing may be! What was the old saying??! $5 brain? Then wear a $5 bucket! Similarly, $5 body? Then wear $5 armour/gear & ultimately, a $5 bag! :shocked: Your choice, your risk.... except where 'the State' has intervened! :thumbup:
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Fat Baxter
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I've been riding in the Deep South for about 2 decades now, on BMWs and now Spyders. IMO, the high heat and equally high humidity will drive you to some trade-offs down here.
For most of the past years, my warm weather outfit was a pair of Diamond Gusset Defender jeans, with Kevlar cloth in the butt, hips, and knees (helps prevent road rash in the event of a spill). For the upper body, I wore a Draggin' Jeans Kevlar mesh shirt on top of a cotton t-shirt (again, to help prevent road rash). Note, no armor in any of this. My main consideration was breathability in high humidity.
I recently replaced the Kevlar mesh shirt with a Joe Rocket Phoenix 5.0 mesh jacket with armor. It comes with a removable plastic rain liner that also acts as a windbreaker in cooler weather. (Tip: don't buy the new Joe Rocket Phoenix Ion jacket that the stores are currently pushing. It actually move less air.) A good alternative would be a Firstgear Mesh Tex mesh jacket.
As for gloves -- avoid black if you can, look for natural tan. I found some tan deerskin gloves at Tractor Supply (I paid about $20 in the store). Deerskin also breathes better than cowhide and is softer and more flexible.
For most of the past years, my warm weather outfit was a pair of Diamond Gusset Defender jeans, with Kevlar cloth in the butt, hips, and knees (helps prevent road rash in the event of a spill). For the upper body, I wore a Draggin' Jeans Kevlar mesh shirt on top of a cotton t-shirt (again, to help prevent road rash). Note, no armor in any of this. My main consideration was breathability in high humidity.
I recently replaced the Kevlar mesh shirt with a Joe Rocket Phoenix 5.0 mesh jacket with armor. It comes with a removable plastic rain liner that also acts as a windbreaker in cooler weather. (Tip: don't buy the new Joe Rocket Phoenix Ion jacket that the stores are currently pushing. It actually move less air.) A good alternative would be a Firstgear Mesh Tex mesh jacket.
As for gloves -- avoid black if you can, look for natural tan. I found some tan deerskin gloves at Tractor Supply (I paid about $20 in the store). Deerskin also breathes better than cowhide and is softer and more flexible.
SpyderAnn01
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Mike I didn't think you were attacking me personally I was just standing up for all the geared up BMW riders. Come on out and we will show you a hot time.
cyclekid58
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Gear
My wife and I both have those Bilt Jackets in white. When really hot out we wear the Bilt Cooling vests underneath which slows the evaporation and the air flow is like air conditioning. Re-wet the cool vests at gas stops and makes for a much more enjoyable ride. We also have the mesh shirts from walmart with the reflective striping like flaggers wear (Long Sleeve) which we sometimes wear in place of the Bilt Jackets with the same results. Only run t-shirts on short trips around town.
My wife and I both have those Bilt Jackets in white. When really hot out we wear the Bilt Cooling vests underneath which slows the evaporation and the air flow is like air conditioning. Re-wet the cool vests at gas stops and makes for a much more enjoyable ride. We also have the mesh shirts from walmart with the reflective striping like flaggers wear (Long Sleeve) which we sometimes wear in place of the Bilt Jackets with the same results. Only run t-shirts on short trips around town.
Does the Bilt Jacket come in women's cut? I only see unisex on their website.
Bfromla
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:lecturef_smilie: Don't think that's actually Bob in pic, :sour:
is missing strip of bacon out of visor!:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::2thumbs:
(its not permanently there but refreshed often)
I'd sure like to pursue this topic a little more. My wife and I took a ride yesterday in 96 degree weather. She was wearing her First Gear Hypertex jacket and I was wearing my mid-weight Olympia jacket with the pocket vents open. We both have HJC IS MAX-II modular helmets with the vents open. I was pretty warm but not dangerously uncomfortable but Jane was miserably hot.
So, I'm looking into this again, because living in Utah, hot weather riding is a reality and for safety sake if nothing else it's important that we not get overheated when riding.
So, vents open or closed?
Dedicated hot-weather mesh jackets or not?
High tech evaporative vests with built-in water supply worth the money and bulk?
Thanks.
MurrayBrown
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Riding Gear
No flaming here. I concur that on a Spyder the road rash situation(s) are minimized. However, having a real fear of ANY kind of road rash, I still continue to wear my full gear, albeit WITHOUT armor. Sliding down the road from a Spyder would only occur after being hit or hitting something, as you say. It doesn't matter what the weather is, hot, warm or cool (and cold), full gear is a must for me.
No flaming here. I concur that on a Spyder the road rash situation(s) are minimized. However, having a real fear of ANY kind of road rash, I still continue to wear my full gear, albeit WITHOUT armor. Sliding down the road from a Spyder would only occur after being hit or hitting something, as you say. It doesn't matter what the weather is, hot, warm or cool (and cold), full gear is a must for me.
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