RIDE-ON "vs" SLIME

[BajaRon]

That's odd! When I called they recommended the motorcycle formula, due to the alloy wheels. Makes little sense, since cars have alloy wheels, too. :dontknow:

I looked into this at one time and I seem to remember I came away with the idea that it was the same stuff either way. The difference being container size, not product.

Of course the smaller containers for MC applications end up costing more per ounce.

I went with the Automotive stuff. I'll have to get the bottle out but I'm sure it says good to use with alloy wheels. It would be stupid to sell a product that would cause problems with alloy.

This is what it says on the Ride-On site
Q: Does Ride-On Tire Protection System react chemically with the tires or wheels?

A: No. Ride-On (TPS) tire sealant is chemically inert, and will not attack the tire or wheels. Ride-On (TPS) contains corrosion inhibitors that protect steel and aluminum wheels and tire belts against corrosion. Ride-On (TPS) tire sealant can be easily washed out of tires with water. It will not affect the future use of patches or other tire repairs if necessary. Ride-On (TPS) will actually help preserve the tire casing, making retreads more effective.
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[NancysToy]

I looked into this at one time and I seem to remember I came away with the idea that it was the same stuff either way. The difference being container size, not product.

Of course the smaller containers for MC applications end up costing more per ounce.

I went with the Automotive stuff. I'll have to get the bottle out but I'm sure it says good to use with alloy wheels. It would be stupid to sell a product that would cause problems with alloy.

I heartily agree! I figured it was the same stuff, too. The person on the phone said otherwise, however, when I asked specifically. Conflicting answers and murky advertising do not create a warm, fuzzy feeling. Good thing the product works so well. Perhaps the company will chime in and clarify things officially for us.....without divulging any trade secrets, of course.

 

[SpyderSteve]

I looked into this at one time and I seem to remember I came away with the idea that it was the same stuff either way. The difference being container size, not product.

Of course the smaller containers for MC applications end up costing more per ounce.

I went with the Automotive stuff. I'll have to get the bottle out but I'm sure it says good to use with alloy wheels. It would be stupid to sell a product that would cause problems with alloy.

This is what it says on the Ride-On site
Q: Does Ride-On Tire Protection System react chemically with the tires or wheels?

A: No. Ride-On (TPS) tire sealant is chemically inert, and will not attack the tire or wheels. Ride-On (TPS) contains corrosion inhibitors that protect steel and aluminum wheels and tire belts against corrosion. Ride-On (TPS) tire sealant can be easily washed out of tires with water. It will not affect the future use of patches or other tire repairs if necessary. Ride-On (TPS) will actually help preserve the tire casing, making retreads more effective.
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glad to read that i ordered the automotive stuff yesterday, now i have a question, my rims are not balanced, do i need to balance them or will the ride-on do it for me thanks

 

[Lamonster]

glad to read that i ordered the automotive stuff yesterday, now i have a question, my rims are not balanced, do i need to balance them or will the ride-on do it for me thanks

I'm not running any weights on any of my rims with Ride-On in them.

 

[QuadManiac]

Scotty, can you provide your input/experience as to Ride-On's ability to correct for inherent imbalance in the wheel/tire? I don't see, from the physics standpoint, how this would be likely... the vibration frequencies I would expect to see during rotation just seem too high for a passive, highly viscous fluid to be able to re-distribute and damp them out; but we've heard so much empirical evidence from users that it does work that I'm almost a believer - I just need to make sense of it.

 

[Lamonster]

So if Scotty says it works you're good?:dontknow:opcorn:
I'm not sure how many miles Scotty has ridden with Ride- On but I have over 35,000+ on my Spyder with Ride- On only balancing my tires. I had over 25K on my fronts and they still looked great before I changed rims. I have about 18,000+ on my fronts now and they still look like new.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mid3XqDlyk[/ame]

 

[Hamie]

How much Ride-On do you put in your tires? The chart says 9-11 oz for the fronts...call you tell how much you are putting in when using the 16 oz bottle?

 

[BajaRon]

glad to read that i ordered the automotive stuff yesterday, now i have a question, my rims are not balanced, do i need to balance them or will the ride-on do it for me thanks

I had a fair amount of weight on my wheel. I took the weight off when I added Ride-On and it balances very well.

Lamont had twice as much weight on his and his also balanced well.

I'm sure there is a point at which Ride-On will not be able to compensate. But within reason, I'd say you'll be good to go.

The thing I appreciate is no matter how well you balance a tire, the balance goes away as it wears. With Ride-On you get great balancing all along even as the tire wears.

 

[QuadManiac]

So if Scotty says it works you're good?:dontknow:opcorn:
I'm not sure how many miles Scotty has ridden with Ride- On but I have over 35,000+ on my Spyder with Ride- On only balancing my tires. I had over 25K on my fronts and they still looked great before I changed rims. I have about 18,000+ on my fronts now and they still look like new.

Not doubting that it works, Lamont, as so many have suggested... I just thought Scotty could help me understand the physics of the process. We engineers just have an obsessive/compulsive need to know WHY (just ask my ex-wife). No insult intended!

 

[Dudley]

Let's not forget rocks that get stuck in the treads, dry mud on the blind side of the rim, and numerous other unbalancing objects that can effect the weight balance on the tire. With Ride-On the balance corrects itself as circumstances change.

 

[Dudley]

How much Ride-On do you put in your tires? The chart says 9-11 oz for the fronts...call you tell how much you are putting in when using the 16 oz bottle?

The bottles are marked to show content volume. Hard to mess up and I am sure that if you put a drop or two too much, it will work just fine. It's not a rocket science application. I have 11 oz in fronts and 13 oz in rear.

 

[Lamonster]

Not doubting that it works, Lamont, as so many have suggested... I just thought Scotty could help me understand the physics of the process. We engineers just have an obsessive/compulsive need to know WHY (just ask my ex-wife). No insult intended!

Same principle
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ullnFQD4F1I[/ame]

 

[NancysToy]

Scotty, can you provide your input/experience as to Ride-On's ability to correct for inherent imbalance in the wheel/tire? I don't see, from the physics standpoint, how this would be likely... the vibration frequencies I would expect to see during rotation just seem too high for a passive, highly viscous fluid to be able to re-distribute and damp them out; but we've heard so much empirical evidence from users that it does work that I'm almost a believer - I just need to make sense of it.

So if Scotty says it works you're good?:dontknow:opcorn:
I'm not sure how many miles Scotty has ridden with Ride- On but I have over 35,000+ on my Spyder with Ride- On only balancing my tires. I had over 25K on my fronts and they still looked great before I changed rims. I have about 18,000+ on my fronts now and they still look like new.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mid3XqDlyk

Don't get me in the middle of this! I am no expert...and no physicist. My guess as to how it works is either Leprechauns or Voodoo. Seriously, I have never really used it as a balance aid, I just put it into balanced tires. Seems to run smoother, but the bikes ran pretty good previously. Besides, how do you tell on Michigan's lousy, bumpy roads? :roflblack: Lamont's experience and recommendation were good enough for me. I jumped off the bridge after he said it was good stuff.

 

[QuadManiac]

Guess I'm going to jump too then. Look out below!

 

[wyliec]

The bottles are marked to show content volume. Hard to mess up and I am sure that if you put a drop or two too much, it will work just fine. It's not a rocket science application. I have 11 oz in fronts and 13 oz in rear.

Dudley, you did have 13 in front and 17 rear. Did you change that?

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10114&highlight=Ride

 

[JPoehlman]

Tire changers OK with ride on

I have been using Ride On in my motorcycle tires for a number of years. The shop that changed tires for me would not do it if Slime was used but had no problem with Ride On in the tires. Not nearly as messy they said, and I'm not positive but I believe Ride On cleans up with water where Slime does not.

Dennis In MD
The Krusty Old Phart
Stil turnin' burnin' and lurnin'
2008 Yellow SE5

 

[M2Wild]

Same principle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ullnFQD4F1I

Thanks Lamont for the vid. It's been bothing me trying to figure out how RO works before I buy them.:clap:

 

[SpyderByter]

That's odd! When I called they recommended the motorcycle formula, due to the alloy wheels. Makes little sense, since cars have alloy wheels, too. :dontknow:

I just read thru the site myself since I plan to use it on my new rear tire that has not been balanced. I read the descriptions side be side for the Auto, Motorcyle and even bicycle formulas. Only the MC and Bike formulas mention corrosion inhibitors. The MC formula is sold in 8oz bottles, the auto in 16oz, each $15 a bottle. I would much rather get twice as much for my money, since the rear tire alone will require about two of the 8 oz bottles.

Does anyone know for sure that the auto formula has corrosion inhibitors? I think the auto formula is more suited for the Spyder. For the balancing, the Spyder does not lean like a 2 wheeler or bicycle, and the rear tire is basically an auto tire. The only question in my mind is why would they not mention that the auto formula won't harm alloy wheels?

Lamont, is that auto or MC formula in yours?

 

[Lamonster]

I just read thru the site myself since I plan to use it on my new rear tire that has not been balanced. I read the descriptions side be side for the Auto, Motorcyle and even bicycle formulas. Only the MC and Bike formulas mention corrosion inhibitors. The MC formula is sold in 8oz bottles, the auto in 16oz, each $15 a bottle. I would much rather get twice as much for my money, since the rear tire alone will require about two of the 8 oz bottles.

Does anyone know for sure that the auto formula has corrosion inhibitors? I think the auto formula is more suited for the Spyder. For the balancing, the Spyder does not lean like a 2 wheeler or bicycle, and the rear tire is basically an auto tire. The only question in my mind is why would they not mention that the auto formula won't harm alloy wheels?

Lamont, is that auto or MC formula in yours?

I use the auto with no issues.

 

[RShrimp]

From an engineering standpoint this should work very well compared to wheel weights.
When you add weight to a spinning object. The affect of that weight is dependent on how far from center you place it.

(further from center=less weight needed for desired affect)
Ride -on can be located quite a bit further from center than a wheel weight so less weight is needed to get the job done.