billybovine
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Good to hear that you fitted them into a STL. Did you need the 1/4 inch thickness? I have local source for sheet PVC and it's not that thick. That's what I had in the back of my mind to use.
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Replacing radio speakers
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Good to hear that you fitted them into a STL. Did you need the 1/4 inch thickness? I have local source for sheet PVC and it's not that thick. That's what I had in the back of my mind to use.
bscrive
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Yes, I did. Otherwise the back of the speaker is hitting the headlight housing and the vibrations would probably brake the filiment in the bulbs. I think I have less than a 1/16" clearance with the speaker and headlight housing.
billybovine
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Purple Guy
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The GTO428's do not fit properly in the rear location on an RT.
There a 1/4" gap (see pics) around the speaker and you lose all the bass.
IMO the J&M Rear Speaker Upgrade Kit from Custom Dynamics is the way to go for the rear speakers.
http://www.customdynamics.com/can_am_spyder_audio_speakers.htm
I put the 428's in and was quite disappointed with the sound or lack of quality sound.
I ended up buying the J&M's, swapped one out to compare and the difference was night and day!
The GTO528's fit perfect up front and sound great!
There a 1/4" gap (see pics) around the speaker and you lose all the bass.
IMO the J&M Rear Speaker Upgrade Kit from Custom Dynamics is the way to go for the rear speakers.
http://www.customdynamics.com/can_am_spyder_audio_speakers.htm
I put the 428's in and was quite disappointed with the sound or lack of quality sound.
I ended up buying the J&M's, swapped one out to compare and the difference was night and day!
The GTO528's fit perfect up front and sound great!
bscrive
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Here is what I did to fill in the space left from the smaller speakers. At the top of the filler piece, you can see where I had to modify the 1/4 plywood so that the bike's speaker covers would fit. I had to do this to both sides. No loss of bass and the speakers sound great. I will see how the painted plywood holds up, and if it starts to swell too bad I will find some 1/4" plastic to replace it. The way it sits, I don't think the rain will hit it much. I made sure not to block the botton drainage hole so the water will drain away and not build up.
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BLUEKNIGHT911
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YEA, YEA, YEA
As a confirmed DIY'er I just love it when people manage to adjust to a slight bump in the road and just FIX the problem, Kudo's to you my friend , and I agree the likelihood of water affecting the wood is slight especially since you painted it .......:thumbup::thumbup:......Mike
Here is what I did to fill in the space left from the smaller speakers. At the top of the filler piece, you can see where I had to modify the 1/4 plywood so that the bike's speaker covers would fit. I had to do this to both sides. No loss of bass and the speakers sound great. I will see how the painted plywood holds up, and if it starts to swell too bad I will find some 1/4" plastic to replace it. The way it sits, I don't think the rain will hit it much. I made sure not to block the botton drainage hole so the water will drain away and not build up.
As a confirmed DIY'er I just love it when people manage to adjust to a slight bump in the road and just FIX the problem, Kudo's to you my friend , and I agree the likelihood of water affecting the wood is slight especially since you painted it .......:thumbup::thumbup:......Mike
PMK
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Taking this a step further, when you folks did your install, did you seal the speaker box area and seal the edge of the speaker itself?
After watching the Finless video of installing the JM speakers, he made mention of the rubber style wellnuts and also a foam gasket. When I do the upgrade, will the speaker lay flat or is there a gap between the speaker and mount. Are the speaker boxes sealed well from BRP.
PK
After watching the Finless video of installing the JM speakers, he made mention of the rubber style wellnuts and also a foam gasket. When I do the upgrade, will the speaker lay flat or is there a gap between the speaker and mount. Are the speaker boxes sealed well from BRP.
PK
bscrive
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I did not seal around the speakers but there was a thin foam gasket on the stock speakers. I didn't notice any vibrations, and I craked the sound on it, but I guess you could put in a gasket. I will keep that in mind if my wife complains about the speaker sound not being quite right.
freebob
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billybovine
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billybovine
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On a ST they're not. St front and only speakers are the same as RT rears.
BLUEKNIGHT911
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A STEP FURTHER
Paul , what bscrive did above is really more than adequate when you need to consider where the speakers are and what they are on.......Would His set-up be OK at the Met in NYC .....Nooooooooooooooo........But on a Spyder on the highway at 65 MPH or more they will be more than adequate .........The key on this entire speaker thing is the OHM's + the actual quality of the speaker itself.........I have JBL's and I love them , I can play them at levels that can hurt my ears if I want and they are clear and crisp .....Unlike the OEM's which go south at about 1/2 volume..............As far as the Speaker boxes go they leak air like a sieve, BRP didn't need to seal them up, the OEM speakers are so BAD it wouldn't make any difference. I didn't seal my rear speakers like " bscrive " did , so my rears have an air GAP ( JBL 428's ).......frankly I don't notice any loose of Base. If were easier to access the rears I would add a trim piece , but I have too many other more important things to do...............Others here have gone with the JBL's for their RT's and really liked them......maybe they will chime in.........good luck, .....Mike :thumbup:
Paul , what bscrive did above is really more than adequate when you need to consider where the speakers are and what they are on.......Would His set-up be OK at the Met in NYC .....Nooooooooooooooo........But on a Spyder on the highway at 65 MPH or more they will be more than adequate .........The key on this entire speaker thing is the OHM's + the actual quality of the speaker itself.........I have JBL's and I love them , I can play them at levels that can hurt my ears if I want and they are clear and crisp .....Unlike the OEM's which go south at about 1/2 volume..............As far as the Speaker boxes go they leak air like a sieve, BRP didn't need to seal them up, the OEM speakers are so BAD it wouldn't make any difference. I didn't seal my rear speakers like " bscrive " did , so my rears have an air GAP ( JBL 428's ).......frankly I don't notice any loose of Base. If were easier to access the rears I would add a trim piece , but I have too many other more important things to do...............Others here have gone with the JBL's for their RT's and really liked them......maybe they will chime in.........good luck, .....Mike :thumbup:
PMK
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Well Mike, don't launch the missiles and kill me, I got the 429 / 529 speakers, (ebay, new in box with free shipping, about $125), a TuneTrapper hidden antenna, and have the oem antenna hole plug on the way.
I am sure I will either make an adapter or come up with some form of a seal on the rears. Overall though, since the volume of the speaker enclosure is pretty small, I was toying with sealing any possible air leaks and ensuring the speaker mount flange is sealed to the box.
The wife has complained since day one about the audio quality. The above mentioned stuff is the next set of mods. We are not into having the music loud vs the quality. I am suspecting the speakers alone, whether 428 / 528 or 429 / 529 will be a step or two above oem and sound great.
Been doing homework on the install, seems I need to verify I have clearance between the headlamp shell and speaker. Need to build a mount ring or somehow seal the rears. The antenna is pretty cool and flexible enough it should mount in the rear bodywork.
Hopefully she enjoys this mod.
PK
BLUEKNIGHT911
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PAUL,PAUL,PAUL.................
....Haven't killed anyone lately :roflblack:........and not likely to do you :agree:......not launching any M's either......Unless the 529 is a lot larger than the 528 ( and I doubt it ) there will be NO issue with the Headlite housing ( you are putting this in a 2014 RT correct ????) ......The new 29 series aren't 2 OHM speaker's ........I'm not an Audio genius, but when you half the OHM's you effectively double the output of the Head unit ( relatively speaking )...........This is one of the reasons the 2 OHM ( OEM=4...JBL = 2 ) speakers can play louder - cleaner ...............I'm sure you will be Happy with those JBL's ,,,,the company makes really good speakers............Watch the video " finless " did it's really very helpful and will show you how to cut some time in doing it ......I wish I had seen it before I did my speakers ............Please keep us posted on how it goes .........:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:......Mike
cyclelover63
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I didn't see CUSTOM DYNAMICS set up on their site....Where did you see it at?...Thanks!
900Dave
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Installed a set of Pioneer 4 inch speakers. Used some closed cell foam weatherstripping tape to seal up the gap. No need for a spacer. fit in the existing space. Will have to see how long they last.
What model Pioneers are they? I would like to compare to the JBL 428/429.
Thanks
billybovine
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[h=1]Pioneer's TS-G1044R speakers. [/h]There is no issue with the mounting depth so no spacer needed. The jury is still out on whether I like them or not. Need to go for a long ride and work them at the higher volumes. It's been too *$%%&& cold to do that.
900Dave
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Thanks! That is why I wanted to look at them. No spacer required. I think the JBL is probably a better speaker IMO. But after listening to and looking close at the OEM speakers anything has to sound better. It is also a really tight fit on these ST's.
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