Question for the RT owners - what's a mint '19 RTL worth?

[ks4hcoach]

Hi Old Timer,
I totally understand what you are saying. I'm only "67", but with aches and pains and knees going south way faster than I would like, I do understand that the time to play is definitely limited. Plus I'm still working so that eats up the majority of my time. The economy: who know what's going to happen there and this is compounded with the lack of integrity and leadership at the top levels in our country...but I digress.

The 20+ RT and RTL are really nice machines with great comfort and quite a lot more leg room, especially for the rider, that the 2019 and older. Luggage is better in my mind and as mentioned, the floorboards are much nicer, IMHO, than the older RTs as well. Wind protection is great and with the adjustable windscreen height, I can find a position that is essentially free of buffeting and wind noise while still looking over the windscreen. For reference, I'm right at 6ft 0in tall. They downside of this wind protection is that it when its hot and humid here in NE KS, I found it to be sweltering hot when riding in my Aerostich Roadcrafter. I got lucky and found a Motoport full Kevlar Mesh suit from one of the members here on the "For Sale by Owner" section that fit me perfectly. It breathes in the hot, humid weather much better than the Roadcrafter and really helps in the summer. This was a great purchase for me! Now I have two great suits for different riding conditions.

Note that there have been several 20+ RT or RTLs showing up on the "For Sale" that might be worth checking out.

Have you tried the F3T or F3TL? I'm not a huge fan of the "cruiser" riding position vs the upright, motorcycle-style position (I also have an older Ducati MTS1100S and a big KTM single), but I think the F3TL was a fun ride with better handling that the RTs...but it does give up lots of wind protection and also storage space. Coming from the BMW R12GS though, you may also prefer the conventional riding position of the RT and RTL.

Good luck with your search and congratulations for being able to ride and enjoy riding at nearly 80. I hope I will be able to say the same at that time.

Rod

 

[Snoking1127]

The only advantage the 2019 would have is a digital dash, which started in 2019. Good luck.

2018 was the first year of digital dash, which I like a lot.

The 2019 RTL Chrome wheels are one of the best looking wheels on any Spyder. I have thought about a 2020+ and tried to buy the silver one at Nash in Mesa, until they played pricing games on me.

So I put PPA ORB chrome wheels one my 2018 replacement the starfish OEM chrome wheels, got a new Garmin Xumo XT GPS and ride on!!!

In the Phoenix area that 2019 would sell for 22K+ in a microsoft minute.

 

[Mikey]

I would go to couple dealerships and, pound away at them and see how much a new was, then do some sole searching, and ask yourself, what would I be willing to pay for a 5 year old bike! You may want to have the warranty and a little monthly payment and have something new! Unless you're up for doing your own wrenching and don't care about that sort of thing, then I say start low and work your way up! :2thumbs:

 

[bikerbillone]

Here's a tip, turned 90 a few days ago, lovin' my 2020 RTL. However, rode a BMW RT for many years loved that as well, riding two up just got to be a bit risky.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

offer him 15K cash. much easier to negotiate up than down

True, but you run the risk of the seller being 'insulted' that you would take him to be a sucker for a low price. As a result he may take offense and cut off negotiation completely. It's best to get a good idea of what an item is worth, and then make an offer somewhat less, but not so much less as to let him think you think he's a sucker. The challenge is to figure out what that price is.

 

[Rednaxs60]

I have a 2014 RTL and am very happy with it. Was low mileage, 9000 Kms in some 6 years or so. Oil changes are the big issue, hadn't had its second oil change. Tried a 2018 F3 touring, the Mrs liked it and would tour on it. Found the 2014 through the friend network, the Mrs preferred the riding position of the 2014 RTL over the 2018 F3. Brother and sister-in law were looking for a Spyder as well. They had used my 2014 for a weekend and did enjoy it. Borrowed my friends 2018 F3 and they rode it for a weekend, the sister-in-law preferred the riding position of it over the RTL, they bought that F3. If I rode mostly solo, I'd have an F3, but the Mrs likes to ride, so the RTL. Put 17,000 Kms on it last year cross Canada and back, very comfy. Helmet storage on the F3 Limited is better than the RTL. Other than this, not a lot not to like with either.

If you can, borrow/rent the various models for at least a weekend - 2/3 days. A Spyder is not like a 2 wheel, down the road and back and it's what I expected. You will have questions.

Good luck.

 

[old Timer]

Thanks all for all the info. I definitely would prefer a post '20 model.