Purge Valve - Permanent Fix

[steven888]

It works

All I did was put a bolt in the canister hose and the more I drove the better it ran. Now it runs awsome. no more sputter/surge or hesitation. I can take off with the bike cold just after starting it. It truly worked. Why would I want to do another update? When it runs better than ever. Thanks to everyone for the great info. Remember it is the hose that runs vertical on the right side. Not the one that run horizontal under the seat.
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[sylblk]

filter in vent line

strongly recommend to use an inline fuel filter at the end of vent line, remember that air must enter line as gas level drops in tank or as temperature drops and fuel contracts. spiders and other insects love empty pipes and may nest plugging the vent. fuel pumps are strong enough to collapse tank...no warranty...

 

[Putt-Putt]

strongly recommend to use an inline fuel filter at the end of vent line, remember that air must enter line as gas level drops in tank or as temperature drops and fuel contracts. spiders and other insects love empty pipes and may nest plugging the vent. fuel pumps are strong enough to collapse tank...no warranty...

Good point!

 

[lightman02]

You can check the purge valve operation yourself. Just disconnect the plug and put 12volts dc (from the battery or any other 12v dc source) on the leads of the valve itself (one positive and one negative) when you apply the voltage you were here the valve closing and remove the voltage you will here it open as its spring loaded. If you don't hear that click of the valve opening and closing you prob have a bad valve. All a purge valve is, is a solenoid with a plunger attched to it.

 

[NancysToy]

You can check the purge valve operation yourself. Just disconnect the plug and put 12volts dc (from the battery or any other 12v dc source) on the leads of the valve itself (one positive and one negative) when you apply the voltage you were here the valve closing and remove the voltage you will here it open as its spring loaded. If you don't hear that click of the valve opening and closing you prob have a bad valve. All a purge valve is, is a solenoid with a plunger attched to it.

This only tests the solenoid coil activation. A vacuum test is also necessary. The purge valve should not leak down with vacuum on the discharge side, until it is activated. Then the vacuum should be released. Failure to do either means a bad purge valve.

 

[Don in E Texas]

strongly recommend to use an inline fuel filter at the end of vent line, remember that air must enter line as gas level drops in tank or as temperature drops and fuel contracts. spiders and other insects love empty pipes and may nest plugging the vent. fuel pumps are strong enough to collapse tank...no warranty...

An inline fuel filter would have an open end just as the hose has. Might just need a fine mesh screen material secured to the open end of the hose to keep critters out.

I was thinking about removing the hose from the canister that goes to the valve and inserting a bolt/hose clamp -- and running a new hose from the canister to some place under the bike --- thus leaving the canister in place and the hose from the fuel tank in place as well. Would this be satisfactory, or should I just remove the two hoses from the canister as already suggested?

don

 

[Dudley]

If we plug the hose and problem is solved. What is the permanent fix for this issue? My dealer is not going to know what to do so going to them is of no use.

I plugged the valve and the Spyder runs so much better, this will probably be my permanent fix. It has more smoothness all around, more power in 5th gear, etc. Just seems like a different Spyder.

 

[JimAlpha]

Dittoes on the purge valve fix. Runs great! Thanks to all.:clap:

 

[effgjamis]

If you are wanting to replace the Puge Valve, here is the Part Number 709000108 ... My dealer wants 42.49 plus tax and doesn't have one in stock, Maybe 7-15 days to get one. Also I think the price is a bit pricy.

I am going to release the pinched hose from the throttle body and pull the hose from the Evap Can going to the Purge Valve and put a bolt in it.. that would be a better closure as recommened my Lamonster ( Thanks Lamont)

I am still waiting for the update FIX... and it is Sept 15 and almost 2.5 months since the update. Oh well I guess BRP engineers have senior moments as I. It does seem awful strange that as many complaints as BRP has or apparently have received that a fix would be top priority on their list.

Oh well.. Gatlinburg here I come.

 

[BLACK WIDOW]

Purge Valve

I decided to take my purge tank off, plug the hose on the tank side of the purge valve, and reroute the tank vent hose. I don't know that I was having any trouble before, but it just seemed like a logical thing to do. Maybe it will save me some problems later.nojoke


Michael:doorag:

 

[DragonSpyder]

I'm curious where everyone is routing the vent hose. I have mine routed across the swingarm and coming out next to the belt guard (below rear foot pegs). Looks kinda silly but it does work.

 

[Pilo]

I'm curious where everyone is routing the vent hose. I have mine routed across the swingarm and coming out next to the belt guard (below rear foot pegs). Looks kinda silly but it does work.

Check my routing up to the rear axle.

Tried to hide the tip behind the rear fender bracket, but due to a storage kink, the hose always jumps out of its hiding place.

Cheers...

 

[BLACK WIDOW]

Vent hose

I'm curious where everyone is routing the vent hose. I have mine routed across the swingarm and coming out next to the belt guard (below rear foot pegs). Looks kinda silly but it does work.

I actually ran mine forward and came out just to the right bottom side of the radiator. There are some holes already there for the hose to exit and can be secured with zip ties. Seems to work fine. BTW I used a faucet strainer washer with a fine stainless screen on the end of the hose and secured it with silicone rubber. :f_spider:


Michael:doorag:

 

[Latemarch]

I actually ran mine forward and came out just to the right bottom side of the radiator. There are some holes already there for the hose to exit and can be secured with zip ties. Seems to work fine. BTW I used a faucet strainer washer with a fine stainless screen on the end of the hose and secured it with silicone rubber. :f_spider:


Michael:doorag:

Forward was my solution as well.

No problems or smell.

 

[jabba11]

Plugged mine

Well after much delibertion I decided to plug mine today too. I havent had nearly as much coughin and spitting as others but there have been a few times especially in stop and go driving (even in cool weather and I shudder to think what it would have bene like if it were hot becasue that seems to make it much worse) where it was a huge issue. I have only driven it a few miles but I CAN feel a difference in the way it is running. With this much evidence obviously there is an issue here and I am suprised there isn't more of a reponse from BRP.

 

[Pilo]

Great idea

I actually ran mine forward and came out just to the right bottom side of the radiator. There are some holes already there for the hose to exit and can be secured with zip ties. Seems to work fine. BTW I used a faucet strainer washer with a fine stainless screen on the end of the hose and secured it with silicone rubber. :f_spider:


Michael:doorag:

Mike:

I like your idea of using the faucet strainer, and it seems that I already found use for one (surplus from a recent kitchen revamp) that has been kicked around the house.

Could you post any pics so as to see how did you make that arrangement at the hose tip?

Thanks and regards

Pilo

 

[BLACK WIDOW]

Washer

Mike:

I like your idea of using the faucet strainer, and it seems that I already found use for one (surplus from a recent kitchen revamp) that has been kicked around the house.

Could you post any pics so as to see how did you make that arrangement at the hose tip?

Thanks and regards

Pilo[/quote

I must apologize for the poor picture quality, but not a good photography angle, laying on my back.nojoke I think you will get the idea, its just the 1/4'' hose end slightly is the washer and sealed with silicone rubber. It seems very sturdy and will surely keep the vermin out.
Hope this will help.


Michael:doorag:

 

[Pilo]

Mike:

I like your idea of using the faucet strainer, and it seems that I already found use for one (surplus from a recent kitchen revamp) that has been kicked around the house.

Could you post any pics so as to see how did you make that arrangement at the hose tip?

Thanks and regards

Pilo[/quote

I must apologize for the poor picture quality, but not a good photography angle, laying on my back.nojoke I think you will get the idea, its just the 1/4'' hose end slightly is the washer and sealed with silicone rubber. It seems very sturdy and will surely keep the vermin out.
Hope this will help.


Michael:doorag:

Mike:

I must apologize for making you lie on your back; I thought you had taken some pics during installation.

My strainer is of a different sort, but I am sure that I will come up with something practical and economical.

I think I'll only use one ss screen.

Gracias y saludos, Pilo

 

[DragonSpyder]

I would rather route mine in the front like you have done but am a bit concerned about the fuel dripping out while riding and being blown back in the exhaust area. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

 

[Latemarch]

I would rather route mine in the front like you have done but am a bit concerned about the fuel dripping out while riding and being blown back in the exhaust area. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

:agree:You're being paranoid

There can't be more than a drip or two coming out of that hose which is totaly insignificant while you're riding.