Pedal Box/Pedal Commander Discussion

[kj2364]

Anyone have experience with the apps for the box or commander? I'm going to buy one of them and leave it mounted under the plastic. Since they work about the same I'll get the one with the better app. For android.

 

[TFoster]

I don't remember buying an app for pedal box. I think I just scanned QR code that came with pedal box directions.

 

[Isopedella]

From what I understand there is the

PedalBox

PedalBox® for the Can Am® Spyder with 1330 motor including F3 (all models including Limited) and the 2014-2021 RT (including Limited)

+10% Better Acceleration
4 programs to optimize the accelerator pedal characteristic
More than 20 different settings available
Incl. Memory function, saves the last selected setting
Perfec-Tune feature for individual custom tuning of your vehicle
4 programs (Sport, Sport+, City, Stock)
Easy install- works on all Can Am Spyders with the 1330 motor

The PedalBox is weather and water resistant. All of our boards are sealed with an epoxy solution, along with weather proof seals when snapped closed.


And the PedalBox +

+10% Better Acceleration
4 programs to optimize the accelerator pedal characteristic
More than 20 different settings available
Memory function, saves the last selected setting
PerfecTune feature for individual custom tuning of your vehicle
Controlling of the PedalBox+ with app
4 programs (Sport, Sport+, City, Stock)
Easy install- works on all Can Am Spyders with the 1330 motor
The PedalBox is weather and water resistant. All of our boards are sealed with an epoxy solution, along with weather proof seals when snapped closed.
PedalBox can be mounted out of sight and controlled by your smartphone app. No need for extra mounting hardware to clutter up your bars

 

[kj2364]

Yeah I didn't phrase that very well. The commander and the pedalbox+ both allow control from their free app. Just wondering if one app is better than the other.

 

[Peteoz]

Yeah I didn't phrase that very well. The commander and the pedalbox+ both allow control from their free app. Just wondering if one app is better than the other.

That’s going to be hard to answer unless you have had experience with both, kj, and not too many riders have that. Suffice to say, they both work well, the Box apparently has slightly better waterproofing (which doesn’t matter if you are putting it under a panel). You really can’t go wrong with either, so make a selection based on price, looks etc.

Pete

 

[RangerRick]

On my 2013 Spyder, the City setting works great; but in Sports mode, if I crank the throttle wide open it bogs down like it's getting too much air and not enough fuel. So I leave it in City mode, which is plenty good, 'cause if I crank the throttle wide open, it goes like a Bat out of H with no delay in throttle response. And yes, I have a new fuel filter on it.

 

[blacklightning]

Yeah I didn't phrase that very well. The commander and the pedalbox+ both allow control from their free app. Just wondering if one app is better than the other.

I have the pedal commander and the pedal box (not the +). The pedal commander comes standard with the app controls and it works great (although I never use it). Due to the reason that I do not use the app, I chose the standard pedal box for the RTL only because it was about $20 cheaper, delivered. If you get the pedal box +, you will pay more. If i wanted the app, I would go with the pedal commander and save a few bucks, simply because the app is free with the device.

 

[kj2364]

Thanks. Ordered the PC. $250 + tax with PC50 code.

 

[helton61]

Thanks. Ordered the PC. $250 + tax with PC50 code.

Where did you get it i tried the code on Slingmods it didn't work.

 

[Peteoz]

On my 2013 Spyder, the City setting works great; but in Sports mode, if I crank the throttle wide open it bogs down like it's getting too much air and not enough fuel. So I leave it in City mode, which is plenty good, 'cause if I crank the throttle wide open, it goes like a Bat out of H with no delay in throttle response. And yes, I have a new fuel filter on it.

Yeah, same here, Rick……Running mine in City +1 achieves my goal of removing the “bogging down” when grabbing a handful of throttle if you find yourself in too high a gear. (Of course, I did try Sport + mode a couple of times……holy cow :yikes

Pete

 

[YPILOT]

“Approved device”, YPILOT? Approved by who? Certainly not by BRP

Pete

Hey Pete, Your absolutely right, BRP doesn’t approve aftermarket equipment of any type.
Tires, oil, oil filters, air filters, exhaust, etc. so that’s irrelevant
However it seems as though every one who has one approves of it but more importantly please check out the website for a list of certifications. The best part they aren’t illegal and will not harm your machine!

https://pedalcommander.com/

 

[kj2364]

Where did you get it i tried the code on Slingmods it didn't work.

That's where I got it. Code worked for me a couple days ago.

 

[Yabbadabbadoo]

I have the Pedal Commander on my 2020 F3-S. I also have the Monster Performance Stage 2 tune. After trying all the settings on the PC, I have settled on City mode +2. This gives me the fast throttle response without being too twitchy. I use Eco mode on the bike if I want a slower throttle response. The PC really helps the performance feel and response of the engine at slower RPMs. Above 4500 to 5000 RPM is where the Stage 2 tune really shows itself. This bike now screams when you want it to.

 

[FrogmanDave]

Running mine in City +1 achieves my goal of removing the “bogging down” when grabbing a handful of throttle if you find yourself in too high a gear.

After trying all the settings on the PC, I have settled on City mode +2.

City mode +2 for me.

 

[Peteoz]

Hey Pete, Your absolutely right, BRP doesn’t approve aftermarket equipment of any type.
Tires, oil, oil filters, air filters, exhaust, etc. so that’s irrelevant
However it seems as though every one who has one approves of it but more importantly please check out the website for a list of certifications. The best part they aren’t illegal and will not harm your machine!

https://pedalcommander.com/

Thanks YPILOT... I just didn’t want any newbies figuring this was a “BRP approved” option, which may prove an issue later.

Pete

 

[Peteoz]

I have the Pedal Commander on my 2020 F3-S. I also have the Monster Performance Stage 2 tune. After trying all the settings on the PC, I have settled on City mode +2. This gives me the fast throttle response without being too twitchy. I use Eco mode on the bike if I want a slower throttle response. The PC really helps the performance feel and response of the engine at slower RPMs. Above 4500 to 5000 RPM is where the Stage 2 tune really shows itself. This bike now screams when you want it to.

It’s interesting that you use both, Yabba. I found that the Stage 2 tune on my ‘16 F3, among other things, completely addressed the throttle lag issue (that was one of its advertised benefits), and woke the F3 right up. It performed exactly the same lag removal as my Pedal Commander has done on my ‘21 RT without the tune. I am very surprised that you need both.

Pete

 

[Peter Aawen]

It’s interesting that you use both, Yabba. I found that the Stage 2 tune on my ‘16 F3, among other things, completely addressed the throttle lag issue (that was one of its advertised benefits), and woke the F3 right up. It performed exactly the same lag removal as my Pedal Commander has done on my ‘21 RT without the tune. I am very surprised that you need both.

Pete

Pete, if your '16 F3's tune was from Jase, I'm not at all surprised at that!!

I've become convinced that regardless of it being a 'Stage 1 or 2' tune, the tunes that we get from him here in Oz have somewhat more of a wider scope of improvement than those they're getting in North America... :dontknow: I've ridden a few NA tuned machines now (both Stages & a variety of providers amongst them ) as well as more 'Jase tuned' Spyders than just mine, and I'm always surprised at how different the NA tuned machines are, regardless of the 'stage' &/or other mods... and that 'different' is not in an 'astounding performance improvement' way either!! :shocked: So I can understand how the improved response from a Pedal Commander would still be a desirable addition & upgrade for many over there; and just not so much of a need or want after an ECU Upgrade by Jase over here. :thumbup:

 

[Peteoz]

Ahhhhhhh interesting, Peter. Yes, I have not ridden on any Spyder with other than Jase’s tune. That sounds very plausible:thumbup:

I would have gone with Jase again except I don’t trust AusPost any more after they lost 2 packages. One was found after a month and the other is still lost. I am certainly not prepared to entrust my ECM to them. Imagine the work involved in sourcing and installing a new ECM, especially as I am many hours from a dealer.

Pete

 

[Yabbadabbadoo]

It’s interesting that you use both, Yabba. I found that the Stage 2 tune on my ‘16 F3, among other things, completely addressed the throttle lag issue (that was one of its advertised benefits), and woke the F3 right up. It performed exactly the same lag removal as my Pedal Commander has done on my ‘21 RT without the tune. I am very surprised that you need both.

Pete

I didn't actually NEED both. The Monster Stage 2 tune improved the throttle response, especially in Sport mode. But after a year of hearing all the benefits of the PC Or Pedal Box I was intrigued and gave in and bought the PC when it was on sale. I'm glad I did, it makes a real difference. I also have the MyGenius device so I can change my EC tuning between stock, Stage 1 and Stage 2 whenever I want. I run it in Stage 2 most of the time. I changed it to Stage 1 before a long trip to Canada where I wasn't sure if I could get Premium gas in remote areas.
I'm pleased to read on here that others are also settling on City +1 or +2. It's a validation of sorts that I'm not crazy!

 

[Quickdraw]

Installed the Pedalbox Pro which is bluetooth so no wires or mounting to my bars. Tried it out the other day in sport mode and boy what a difference. I may try the sport+ mode just to see what its got.