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Oregon Rider Wins $180,170 Court Case
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Bob Denman
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I recall this incident, and it was reported on in here...
At the time; I felt that the rider was truly the "Author of his own misfortune".
I still feel the same way. nojoke
Did the Officer over-react?
Yes! (In fact: Hell yes!)
But had the rider pulled over at the earliest safe moment: none of this would ever had happened...
IMHO
At the time; I felt that the rider was truly the "Author of his own misfortune".
I still feel the same way. nojoke
Did the Officer over-react?
Yes! (In fact: Hell yes!)
But had the rider pulled over at the earliest safe moment: none of this would ever had happened...
IMHO
JerryB
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Hi 2Paw,
Re: Oregon Rider Wins $180,170 Court Case
In the article is says: 'now that the case has been settled'
That seems like it was a settlement, not a court decision.
This is a very important difference because a court decision in the rider's favor would establish precedent. They probably did not want that in a court record.
Jerry Baumchen
Re: Oregon Rider Wins $180,170 Court Case
In the article is says: 'now that the case has been settled'
That seems like it was a settlement, not a court decision.
This is a very important difference because a court decision in the rider's favor would establish precedent. They probably did not want that in a court record.
Jerry Baumchen
JimVonBaden
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I hate it when I agree with Bob!:banghead:
Tazzel
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You think so? Think again, there are hundreds and hundreds of videos on Youtube of Police caught on video of overstepping their authority, physically overacting and down right brutality (even to the point of murder). A Police Officer has no right to touch you unless you are posing a threat to his safety. The rider had his hands out to the sides and was in the process of going to his knees, when kicked. Yes, cops are human but the real problem is there is no accountability for when crap like that happens. I can guarantee you this police officer made false claims on his report until the video surfaced. And what happens after over reacting, physical assault and costing the City a quarter of a million dollars? He is promoted.
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Bob Denman
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You actually didn't read my post: did you?
Had he pulled over, instead of ignoring the lights: this wouldn't have happened to him... nojoke
Had he pulled over, instead of ignoring the lights: this wouldn't have happened to him... nojoke
Tazzel
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I actually did read it and my comment stays the same. It still might have happened because Police get mad for some reason, their feelings get hurt for some reason, they think your are not showing them enough respect for some reason and they feel like they can do anything to you and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.
Bob Denman
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The rider DIDN'T dhow him any respect: he should have pulled over much sooner! nojoke
Law Enforcement Officers are people too: subject to the same feelings, and the same mistakes...
Law Enforcement Officers are people too: subject to the same feelings, and the same mistakes...
JerryB
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Hi Bob,
Re: subject to the same feelings, and the same mistakes...
Just so no one misunderstands, IMO 99.44% of all LEO's are very decent people doing a very difficult job and I support them completely.
However, they must do better than our everyday Joe Sixpack. It is because of it being a very difficult job that they must keep their feelings in check.
I think the settlement speaks for itself on this issue.
Remember: If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Jerry Baumchen
Re: subject to the same feelings, and the same mistakes...
Just so no one misunderstands, IMO 99.44% of all LEO's are very decent people doing a very difficult job and I support them completely.
However, they must do better than our everyday Joe Sixpack. It is because of it being a very difficult job that they must keep their feelings in check.
I think the settlement speaks for itself on this issue.
Remember: If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Jerry Baumchen
Bob Denman
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I never said that he was right: But I have repeatedly said that this all could have been VERY easily avoided... :thumbup:
But Thanks for supporting our Law Enforcement Friends! :clap: :2thumbs:
But Thanks for supporting our Law Enforcement Friends! :clap: :2thumbs:
JimVonBaden
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These kinds of settlements are more about convincing a jury that the cop was mean than any real misbehavior. Jurors are predisposed to award money. It is just how our litigious society works.
JerryB
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Hi Jim,
Re: These kinds of settlements are more about convincing a jury
Let me try this once again:
In the article is says: 'now that the case has been settled'
That seems like it was a settlement, not a court decision.
If it was a settlement, then it never went to a jury.
Jerry Baumchen
Re: These kinds of settlements are more about convincing a jury
Let me try this once again:
In the article is says: 'now that the case has been settled'
That seems like it was a settlement, not a court decision.
If it was a settlement, then it never went to a jury.
Jerry Baumchen
JimVonBaden
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OK, fine, it was cheaper to settle than to go to court. Meaningless.
Tazzel
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Yes i agree, cops are people but If you assaulted a co-worker or customer at work you would be fired. the problem is no accountability when crap like this happens. Cop is promoted. What happens when behaviour is rewarded? more of the same behaviour.
pitzerwm
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Chicago PD dept. just was charged with violating civil rights over many years. Watch for some cleanup.
This would have been in the early 80's, I'm at a Blackjack table at Circus Circus and 4 burly guys sat down and it was obvious that they were all drunk, but one was really toasted. He had a Tee shirt on that said something about "we are Chicago cops and we will kick your ass". The real drunk one was a real racist a$$, berating the oriental dealer and the ones in the pit. One of the others joined in. If you have money apparently Vegas will not kick you out or wouldn't then. I listened to this ***** for about 15-20 and finally said, "Are you guys really Chicago cops or just a$$holes with a shirt"?.
The most sober one instantly addressed me "Are you a cop"? I said, "I suggest you get these two out of here or I will start something that you will regret". The other 3 dragged the drunk one off the floor immediately. The dealer said to me quietly "thank you". The pit boss came over and also quietly said "Thank you".
Over the years, I have filed charges against a number of "hot dogs" and dirty cops. Came close to taking out a city Chief that was inept at best. I'm the first to agree that they have a crappy job a lot of the time. It takes a special person to do it and today, they seem to not get enough/much respect from the public. The videos do help address the facts. We have all seen stuff that we just can't believe, both ways. We need to support our cops and if needed fire the bad ones. The last time I was stopped, thankfully there was 42 minutes of video that left no doubt that this 20 year veteran officer needed to go, which he did.
This would have been in the early 80's, I'm at a Blackjack table at Circus Circus and 4 burly guys sat down and it was obvious that they were all drunk, but one was really toasted. He had a Tee shirt on that said something about "we are Chicago cops and we will kick your ass". The real drunk one was a real racist a$$, berating the oriental dealer and the ones in the pit. One of the others joined in. If you have money apparently Vegas will not kick you out or wouldn't then. I listened to this ***** for about 15-20 and finally said, "Are you guys really Chicago cops or just a$$holes with a shirt"?.
The most sober one instantly addressed me "Are you a cop"? I said, "I suggest you get these two out of here or I will start something that you will regret". The other 3 dragged the drunk one off the floor immediately. The dealer said to me quietly "thank you". The pit boss came over and also quietly said "Thank you".
Over the years, I have filed charges against a number of "hot dogs" and dirty cops. Came close to taking out a city Chief that was inept at best. I'm the first to agree that they have a crappy job a lot of the time. It takes a special person to do it and today, they seem to not get enough/much respect from the public. The videos do help address the facts. We have all seen stuff that we just can't believe, both ways. We need to support our cops and if needed fire the bad ones. The last time I was stopped, thankfully there was 42 minutes of video that left no doubt that this 20 year veteran officer needed to go, which he did.
JimVonBaden
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:banghead:
jaherbst
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I think the phrase you are looking for is "drunk with power". There are a lot of them out there. On the
other hand I wouldn't want there job. Look at the other side of the equation.
Jack
Orange Spyder Man
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no matter what that biker did... that officer should have not use brutality it was totally uncalled for.. .... that biker demonstrated no threat to that officer.. I for one am happy that this particular incident proved this officer acted wrong.. I bet next time this police officer will act differently.. if in fact he is still employed.. i surely hope not... for his stupidity it cost his employer a hunk of money... Kudos to the biker...
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