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One of the main differences between 2013 and other models

PPE

Good gear saved my life. My helmet was ruined. My gloves were worn through. My leather jacket could not be unzipped, as the zipper had welded together. My boots were ground away, you could see my sox. My body: 2 fractured ribs, dislocated shoulder only. It took three months to heal--and I was going only 25 mph!

I "gear up" every time I ride. I hope you do too. But it is your choice. Just don't expect empathy if you do not gear up, and then you crash. Nobody can predict when some drunken a-hole violates right of way and you slam into him. Nobody can plan on NOT crashing. You can only prepare and attempt to prevent the worst outcomes.

No matter how you argue it, on a two wheeler, a trike, or a Spyder, a wreck is going to hurt you a lot more than it would if you were in a cage. I saw a kid once who had a fractured femur. He said "it wasn't my fault. The other guy violated my right of way." I asked the kid if the other guy was injured. The kid said, "No."

If you don't prepare, if you don't train, if you don't use protective equipment, then one day your youthful arrogance will cause you pain. When that happens, do not turn to me for empathy, or expect me to pay your medical bills--through insurance premiums or taxes.

in short, enjoy the sport of riding, but for the love of God, and your family, gear up, get professionally trained, and don't ever EVER have a drink (even one) within 12 hours before you ride--EVER.

Well, here is the skinny. My husband I just did a 9611 mile ride across on our RT's (yes, we each have our own). It was VERY hot and we rode in 106 degrees one day. We rode in shorts, T-shirts and I wore sandals. We rode freeways, back roads, and even the Dragon Tail. And yes, we sometimes do not wear our helmets (such as when in WY, ND, SD, etc). We know we are taking a chance; but after a 12,000 mile summer and 22,000 miles in about 16 months, we try to be careful and are adult enough (68 and 70) to decide what gear to wear when.
 
Good for you!!!!! .... I just don't want to see Naked Spyder Ryders..LOL!!!!!Well... I might make a couple exceptions... but for the most part... not so much...LOL.....:yikes: I will get some pics tomorrow morning to show what the original post was referring to...Will post them when we get back form the dealer shop....there are some major changes in the Tupperware between years. You didn't mention the year model of your RT's.....Sounds like a Great trip!!!!
 
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Are you a spammer?

What type Spyder do you have?

Or are you researching?

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I don't have a Spyder. I don't have the disposable income right now to get a lot of toys.... but I do have a Mega Garage. :yes:


I followed a friend over here because I missed chatting with him on the other forum we were on. Guess I'll just move on now. bth_kickrock.gif
 
Ok.. folks seem to want to know what is different between the 13 and other model spyders.... Previous models had an open area between the top cover and the side covers. these are enclosed on the 13's... I'm sure it was to reduce heat to the rider, but it is cooking everything under the Tupperware. On previous models you could see the exhaust pipe on the left side... now it is covered .. holding in more heat.... the right side is equally blocked. Keeping the rider cool at the expense of the bike is not a good deal... HEY... it's a motorcycle.... it gets hot.... the heat needs to get OUT!!!!! you are not supposed to ride in shorts and flip flops.... We want a bike that vents and cools itself ...
At the expense of sounding disrespectful I need to say that I have a real problem with the comment about shorts and flip flops. Not supposed to? Really? You people can wear what you want and we'll wear what we want. I understand opinions are like you-know-whats but when something sounds as judgmental as that I need to stand up and be counted.
 
"At the expense of sounding disrespectful I need to say that I have a real problem with the comment about shorts and flip flops. Not supposed to? Really? You people can wear what you want and we'll wear what we want. I understand opinions are like you-know-whats but when something sounds as judgmental as that I need to stand up and be counted."


YOui're sounding just a wee bit thin-skinned... :shocked:
Relax, and enjoy your ride! :thumbup:
 
To get back on topic...

Riding my 2013 RS-S, I do notice more heat on my leg on the left side of the bike than on my wife's 2012 RT. On the flip side (somewhat literally), her bike bakes yer right foot if you use the highway peg (no radiator block-off plate, obviously). However, I wouldn't consider the heat coming off any part of either of them any more than a nuisance. But then again, I probably wouldn't say that if we'd had a master cylinder melt on us!
 
Here is the pic that I was refering to.

spyder air vent.jpgThe approx. 2 inch wide gap between body of the bike and the covers for the oil tank on the left side, and the radiator on the right side are filled in with extra body panels on the ST as compared to the RS. A Lot of heat could escape out these openings if they were still there. The pic has FB pointing at the covered opening on the right side.spyder air vent.jpg Sorry about the out of rotation pic.... LOL These vents are closed on both sides.
 
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Bob, FB asked that question to Danny at the Owners event.... he said 'don't do that' ... but I would think it could be and option. I have 'TOOLS" LOL
 
It will; of course, vent that heated air upwards onto your FB... :shocked:
I'm not at all familiar with the RS/ST bodywork... could some sort of ducting be added down near the heat sources?
(But that also might look like crap... :gaah:)
 
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It seems to me, that we have created a "no win" scenario for BRP here... for years, people have been complaining of discomfort from heat while riding. Now, it appears that they have attempted to remedy that, but have created a huge safety issue while doing so. As has been stated here already, engines get hot. Heat has to go somewhere. Some people have said to "open it up" a bit, and let the heat out, but during riding, that would just contribute to the riders discomfort, as the engine is more in front of us than on a regular 2-wheeler.

Personally, I'd rather deal with the discomfort, than the fear of catching on fire...
 
I think that some (only some!) of the heat complaints might be coming from folks who haven't ridden before. They might have just not expected an engine to get hot; having been well-insulated by a firewall during their years in cages... :shocked:
:agree: with you that BRP is in a quite unenviable position... Here's to hoping that they can find a way to make it all good! :2thumbs: :cheers:
 
At the expense of sounding disrespectful I need to say that I have a real problem with the comment about shorts and flip flops. Not supposed to? Really? You people can wear what you want and we'll wear what we want. I understand opinions are like you-know-whats but when something sounds as judgmental as that I need to stand up and be counted.
You can wear whatever you want to wear.... but don't complain about the heat you feel if you are in shorts.... and flip flops.. Have FUN!!!!!
 
This thread got so far off tract from the orginal post that I think the main intent was lost..... if you are really interested...it's in there... but I feel it would be a waste of time to repost it.. so I will let it die here.... Good luck with your heat issues.... ride nekid if ya wanna...Cheers!
 
:shocked: Ride nekkid?? :shocked: You DO realize that there are some folks in here who just don't need much encouragement for this sort of mischief... :D
This thread roamed wild on us; but thanks for the information! :2thumbs:
 
View attachment 74997The approx. 2 inch wide gap between body of the bike and the covers for the oil tank on the left side, and the radiator on the right side are filled in with extra body panels on the ST as compared to the RS. A Lot of heat could escape out these openings if they were still there. The pic has FB pointing at the covered opening on the right side.View attachment 74996 Sorry about the out of rotation pic.... LOL These vents are closed on both sides.

Interesting! I really can't imagine why those areas would be blocked off.... My 12' RS is open there on both sides.
I'm going to be out all day tomorrow on the spyder. I'll pay closer attention to those areas and see how much heat those areas let out. Who knows, maybe those areas draw air IN to push hot air out from under the rest of the panels...:dontknow:

Like I said before, IMHO the more you can open these things up, the cooler I think they will run....
 
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I don't have a Spyder. I don't have the disposable income right now to get a lot of toys.... but I do have a Mega Garage. :yes:


I followed a friend over here because I missed chatting with him on the other forum we were on. Guess I'll just move on now. View attachment 74983

Stick around for awhile. You're welcome here despite some folks comments.
 
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