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OEM tires improved?
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JKMSPYDER
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KENDA REAR TIRE
When I was in Quebec last year for the Spyder 10th anniversary celebration I asked a BRP rep if they had any objection to dealers installing car tires. He said there was no such directive. I have had a car tire installed at a dealer in East Tennessee and at a dealer in north Georgia. The rear Kenda on my ‘13 ST-S lasted less than 10,000 miles. I then had a Kumho installed and it lasted 15,000 miles. The rear Kenda on my current ‘15 F3–S lasted 11,000 miles. I then had the dealer install a Michelin Hydroedge. WOW! 13,000 miles so far and only half worn. I expect to get another 10,000 to 12,000 out of it. Too bad the Hydroedge is no longer available.
When I was in Quebec last year for the Spyder 10th anniversary celebration I asked a BRP rep if they had any objection to dealers installing car tires. He said there was no such directive. I have had a car tire installed at a dealer in East Tennessee and at a dealer in north Georgia. The rear Kenda on my ‘13 ST-S lasted less than 10,000 miles. I then had a Kumho installed and it lasted 15,000 miles. The rear Kenda on my current ‘15 F3–S lasted 11,000 miles. I then had the dealer install a Michelin Hydroedge. WOW! 13,000 miles so far and only half worn. I expect to get another 10,000 to 12,000 out of it. Too bad the Hydroedge is no longer available.
yet another tire fight
My front KENDA tires are 20,000 miles and still going strong without ANY issues.
My rear KENDA tire was replaced at 13,000 miles but could have EASILY gotten 15,000 out of it.
If it "aint" broke don't fix it.:banghead:
Go ahead and put a harder rubber compound tire on your ride.
Go ahead and complete your genius by making sure it support 4x the bikes weight.
Go ahead and emergency brake as you slide into that jackknifing trailer.
Go ahead and later comment........Road-Kill was right.
My front KENDA tires are 20,000 miles and still going strong without ANY issues.
My rear KENDA tire was replaced at 13,000 miles but could have EASILY gotten 15,000 out of it.
If it "aint" broke don't fix it.:banghead:
Go ahead and put a harder rubber compound tire on your ride.
Go ahead and complete your genius by making sure it support 4x the bikes weight.
Go ahead and emergency brake as you slide into that jackknifing trailer.
Go ahead and later comment........Road-Kill was right.
Raprider
New member
Since I've only just purchased my 2016 ST-S, I haven't had to experience this YET, but my dealer told me that they have and would install a car tire.
Bob Denman
New member
How about if YOU try listening to some of us, who have actually logged a fair amount of miles on Kendas, and on aftermarket tires?
Use what you want: they're ALL better than having the bike sit there on the rims... nojoke
Fat Baxter
Member
I think it's more a liability issue than a supply chain issue. The Kendas have "special motorcycle use" on the sidewalls, so I think that has the lawyers at BRP covering their corporate butts. If the dealer is willing to let you sign a waiver absolving them of any tire-related liability issues, then they should be OK mounting the tires, if you supply them. It would be a courtesy to the dealer for you to source the tires.
Fat Baxter
Member
Well, that word's not out. I called around my region when I needed new tires, and the five nearest dealer all said "no."
That's why I keep saying that BRP needs to explicitly make this clear to their dealers. Publish some kind of dealer-wide bulletin, or something, 'cause the word's not apparently getting out.
Heck, maybe BRP could post that statement here at Spyderlovers, and we could print it out and show our dealers.
Bob Denman
New member
BRP isn't going to do that; I'm pretty sure that the Feds take a dim view of "Dark-sided" motorcycles... nojoke
DEALER INSTALLED CAR TIRES??
When I had ours changed by a dealer, he said "as long as we don't remove or install the wheel(s) from the machine, we can mount the tires". So removed the rear wheel from the machine and took it to the dealer, had the tire (Yokohoma S-drive) mounted/bal. and was on my way back home. Still cost me $45.00 for the "service" though. Mad Mac:yikes:
When I had ours changed by a dealer, he said "as long as we don't remove or install the wheel(s) from the machine, we can mount the tires". So removed the rear wheel from the machine and took it to the dealer, had the tire (Yokohoma S-drive) mounted/bal. and was on my way back home. Still cost me $45.00 for the "service" though. Mad Mac:yikes:
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
I have discussed the dealer in previous tire threads. My dealer is one that will NOT install non OEM tires on the :f_spider:. They are now the ONLY dealer in the state. Next nearest dealer is 1500 miles South (Washington State) or East (Whitehorse YT.).
I am okay with it. My current Kenda fronts (2014) have 28,000 on them and still look like new. The rears are approaching 20K.
Normally I get 20K on the fronts and around 15K on the rears.
I am okay with it. My current Kenda fronts (2014) have 28,000 on them and still look like new. The rears are approaching 20K.
Normally I get 20K on the fronts and around 15K on the rears.
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BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
stealers
If you have to do that much work ...... just take the wheel / tire to any car tire place and have it done for $10 to $15 .......Mike :thumbup:
Deanna777
Well-known member
I changed the rear tire( Kenda) @ 5,824 miles. I changed the rear tire to General Altimax RT43, and I have 16,176 miles on the General Altimax RT43, I have not had any problems. The rear tire was changed in Aug/Sept. 2014.
I had a Can-Am dealership install the above tire, and I signed a waiver.
Deanna
I had a Can-Am dealership install the above tire, and I signed a waiver.
Deanna
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blitzkreig
New member
You missed a few dealers in British Columbia ... LOL
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh. Not worth the drive for me. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
Fat Baxter
Member
This is why I think BRP should clarify its policy, since some dealers have mounted non-OEM tires and others won't. If it's a complete ban due to liability issues, that's one thing. They should also clearly state whether they'll accept a rider signing a waiver absolving the dealer of any issues arising from use of non-OEM tires. And if so, riders must supply the tires; the dealers shouldn't have to source them.
I would just like some consistency.
BajaRon
Well-known member
Exactly!
Do you have your 'Ford' tires done at a Ford dealership? Probably not. It's a Car tire on a Car wheel. A no-brainer for any tire shop. They probably don't have a dynamic balance machine that they can get to work with it. But the truth is. Neither do most dealerships. Most Can-Am dealerships just static balance your tire, if that.
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BajaRon
Well-known member
I think you may have the wrong perspective on this. Dealerships tell you they are there to provide customer service. Looking at it from this point of view your query makes sense. But in truth. Dealerships are there to make money. Now it may be wise in this monetary pursuit to give excellent customer care. But not all dealerships see it that way.
The bottom line is. Dealerships have to ask; 'What is in it for us?' Look at it from their point of view.
1- We don't sell a tire
2- We get the dirty end of the stick (mounting and maybe balancing someone else's tire). Which takes shop time and really, not much profit in it.
3- We have the potential of inheriting someone else's problem. What happens if the tire is defective. What happens if the customer is not happy with the tire. What happens if there are clearance issues, etc.
4- Though I think most dealerships use this as a ruse to get you to purchase a Kenda. I think some dealerships actually believe there is a real potential for liability. While I will admit, anything is possible. I have never heard of a single related issue using a non-Kenda tire on the Spyder.
5- It may be that BRP has not issued any kind of blanket policy prohibiting dealerships from mounting an aftermarket tire. But they may have issued a policy stating that if a dealership does mount an aftermarket tire. The dealerships assumes all liability and BRP will not stand behind them if there is a problem.
Bottom line. It's just not worth the effort for most dealerships. But they aren't going to tell you that. They are going to give you a 'Story'. Blaming it on a BRP policy (whether it it exists or not) is a handy and efficient way to do that.
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Peteoz
Well-known member
I agree with what you are saying, Ron, but if Spyder dealers carried even one brand of car tyre that was exactly the same dimensions as the Kenda, then points 1, 2, 3, and part of 4 are gone. I really don’t care what brand of alternative car tyre I use as long as it is upper tier. I realise that this does not take away the fact that BRP will not stand behind the dealer in the case of liability, and that is a real showstopper, but for me, my 300lbs and my passengers xx lbs, a car tyre is virtually a necessity. I would be more than happy to sign any kind of liability waiver in this case.
Even if the dealer had a method of removing the rear wheel and parking the Spyder in a corner (I would not expect them to leave it on a hoist for obvious reasons) while I took the wheel to a tyre shop, and then returned to have them remount it, would work for me. Once again, I would be happy to sign a waiver should the tyre not fit and wear their labour costs.
I’m sure there are issues with the above, but after my hip replacement, and with bad knees, it is going to be near impossible for me to replace the tyre myself next time, and I really can’t/won’t go back to the Kenda.
Pete
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