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O M G - Monster Fuel Inj Rocks! Flashed ECU!
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BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
ECU FLASH
Could you keep some accurate MPG numbers to see what effect it has on that .... I along with others will want to know ,,.... Thanks in advance :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:.........Mike :bbq:
blacklightning
Well-known member
I am glad to hear this. Seems like it had been sort of quite about this tune for a while, and I was questioning if it was real. I hope someone at the rally in Maggie Valley has this done. I would be quite interested in talking to them extensively.
aklim
New member
I would assume it depends on how lucky you are. If for instance, I use Amsoil instead of the BRP oil and the rating was the same, I am protected by law. OTOH, you put transmission fluid in place of motor oil and your engine is toasted, well, GM can tell you to go pound sand. The way I understand it is that if the item you put in can be said to cause the failure, you are SOL. So if I added a supercharger and complain that the transmission and rear end went south, they can state "We built your car around that engine and NOT the additional power the supercharger makes. Failure is on YOU.". In this case, they built the transmission to withstand the 200HP engine. You crank it up to 300 and it isn't their fault.
Bottom line is when I mod for power, as this case is, I am on my own.
aklim
New member
https://monsterfuelinjection.com/spyder/
1330cc Flash
1330cc Flash
- Ultra smooth throttle transitions
- 15% torque increase, roll-on power is improved 1000-5000 rpm.
- New Ultra wide power band gives vast power gains 5000 rpm to redline
- 91 Octane Tune (can use 93 to promote best power output)
- Works with every combination of stock exhaust, cat delete or free flow muffler
- Retains factory mapping, feedback systems and fuel mileage under half throttle
- Stock 8100 or 8600 rpm limiter choice
Ex-Rocket
Well-known member
The dealer at Cowtown USA was mentioning something like that when we had Spyder Jam this year. Believe he was talking about a chip change that would increase the horsepower from 115 to 140 HP Don't know what the outcome was as they were still having problems with the programming of the chip.
AllanSpyder
New member
If you keep your rev limiter stock then it is not detectable. The thing is that if someone from dealer`s shop will take a ride with your Spyder they will surely know that it is not stock anymore. The difference is real big performance wise.
Allan
Allan
Bob Denman
New member
:clap: :2thumbs:
Dennis in Lodi
Member
It's the real deal
The reason it's quiet about the incredible flash from Monster Fuel is because everyone who has had it done is riding, not posting. How ANYONE can looked at this video of my flashed 2015 RT and not say WTF and OMG, really doesn't understand the amazing transformation. https://monsterfuelinjection.com/spyder/ This video shows an RT laying down 25' of rubber, lifting the front end like a snowmobile and going 0 to 88 mph in less than 9 seconds. That's matches the F3 Daytona. But the real improvement for the RT is NOT the hole shot, but the usable roll on power from 4,600 to 7,000 rpm. In this rpm range you get two up passing power in 5th gear where STOCK you would have to down shift to 3rd gear and STILL NOT KEEP UP WITH THE FLASHED RT!!! On my RT, up to 95 mph, I ran neck to neck with my testing buddy on his stock F3S. My worst tank was 32 mpg and my best was 40 mpg, no real change as you don't really hold the throttle open for very long to get the RT moving.
I traded that RT in for a new 2016 F3L and NOT ONE WORD WAS SAID AT THE DEALER WHEN THEY SAW MY TOP RPM WAS 9,100.
I flashed it right away and here is what is different from the RT. The RT benefits from the flash down low, literally from 3,500 rpm as it gets good long power pulls. The stock F3 already pulled this area very well and having more flashed power there isn't that noticeable. BUT, when you get to about 6,800 rpm this is where things really start to happen. Where the flash really shines is under full loads at higher speed in the upper gears. I have the 8,600 rev limit option and from 7,600 to red line my bike throws my helmet back. I can take 5th gear starting at around 50 mph, hold the throttle open and go all the way to red line which is about 110 mph in around 10 seconds. This is where the flash shines for the F3 platform, when it has a big load and higher gears without down shifting.
Easily the most performance gain I have ever had for $350 plus shipping.
BTW: I am stage two flash testing where all speed restrictions are moved to 120 mph. That means instead of the throttle butter flies speed restrictions starting to close down your fun on an RT at 92 mph and the F3 at 105 mph, all 1330 motors will have full power available to 120 mph before the throttle butter flies start to close down your fun. This will enable the F3 platform to red line 6th gear under full power.
Dennis, near Chicago
The reason it's quiet about the incredible flash from Monster Fuel is because everyone who has had it done is riding, not posting. How ANYONE can looked at this video of my flashed 2015 RT and not say WTF and OMG, really doesn't understand the amazing transformation. https://monsterfuelinjection.com/spyder/ This video shows an RT laying down 25' of rubber, lifting the front end like a snowmobile and going 0 to 88 mph in less than 9 seconds. That's matches the F3 Daytona. But the real improvement for the RT is NOT the hole shot, but the usable roll on power from 4,600 to 7,000 rpm. In this rpm range you get two up passing power in 5th gear where STOCK you would have to down shift to 3rd gear and STILL NOT KEEP UP WITH THE FLASHED RT!!! On my RT, up to 95 mph, I ran neck to neck with my testing buddy on his stock F3S. My worst tank was 32 mpg and my best was 40 mpg, no real change as you don't really hold the throttle open for very long to get the RT moving.
I traded that RT in for a new 2016 F3L and NOT ONE WORD WAS SAID AT THE DEALER WHEN THEY SAW MY TOP RPM WAS 9,100.
I flashed it right away and here is what is different from the RT. The RT benefits from the flash down low, literally from 3,500 rpm as it gets good long power pulls. The stock F3 already pulled this area very well and having more flashed power there isn't that noticeable. BUT, when you get to about 6,800 rpm this is where things really start to happen. Where the flash really shines is under full loads at higher speed in the upper gears. I have the 8,600 rev limit option and from 7,600 to red line my bike throws my helmet back. I can take 5th gear starting at around 50 mph, hold the throttle open and go all the way to red line which is about 110 mph in around 10 seconds. This is where the flash shines for the F3 platform, when it has a big load and higher gears without down shifting.
Easily the most performance gain I have ever had for $350 plus shipping.
BTW: I am stage two flash testing where all speed restrictions are moved to 120 mph. That means instead of the throttle butter flies speed restrictions starting to close down your fun on an RT at 92 mph and the F3 at 105 mph, all 1330 motors will have full power available to 120 mph before the throttle butter flies start to close down your fun. This will enable the F3 platform to red line 6th gear under full power.
Dennis, near Chicago
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millerrdjr
New member
Monster Flash Supporter
I too have had the Monster Flash on my 2014 RT.
It is an amazing difference in power/torque.
Well worth the cost!
DO IT !
I too have had the Monster Flash on my 2014 RT.
It is an amazing difference in power/torque.
Well worth the cost!
DO IT !
aklim
New member
How did they know what the top rpm was? I suppose they could scan it but what would prompt them to? I traded I cars and an RSS but nobody did a scan.
Dennis in Lodi
Member
Watched them hook up the buds
As part of the trade in process they hook up the buds confirm codes and maintenance. As I looked over the mechanics shoulder I saw top RPM 9100 rpm.
The mechanic who hooked up the buds called the other mechanic over and showed him the line as if perplexed by the number. They unplugged the buds and said they are OK with the trade going forward.
As part of the trade in process they hook up the buds confirm codes and maintenance. As I looked over the mechanics shoulder I saw top RPM 9100 rpm.
The mechanic who hooked up the buds called the other mechanic over and showed him the line as if perplexed by the number. They unplugged the buds and said they are OK with the trade going forward.
aklim
New member
Was that Rob's or Englehardt?
Spyd_Piper
New member
Don't get much time to come on here. very busy.
For those interested, Rotax engine are extremely well built and bullet proof. Your not going to blow it up by retrieving the power its spec'd at. In stock form, they are quite detuned and under rated from the spec sheets.
Since 2007 we have been tuning all sorts of rotax 1, 2 and 3 cylinder engines in ATV, SSV and street. A lot of builds at +50% hp over factory. They stand up. Once your over 200hp, you can find the weak links. We have a decade of rotax engine and tuning experience.
From 2011 up we tune atleast 250+ units per year. This year since we introduced spyder, and other toys (like Seadoo, Skidoo, Polaris, Kawasaki and Yamaha - both on/off road stuff), this number of tuned engines per year is growing extremely fast.
For those interested, Rotax engine are extremely well built and bullet proof. Your not going to blow it up by retrieving the power its spec'd at. In stock form, they are quite detuned and under rated from the spec sheets.
Since 2007 we have been tuning all sorts of rotax 1, 2 and 3 cylinder engines in ATV, SSV and street. A lot of builds at +50% hp over factory. They stand up. Once your over 200hp, you can find the weak links. We have a decade of rotax engine and tuning experience.
From 2011 up we tune atleast 250+ units per year. This year since we introduced spyder, and other toys (like Seadoo, Skidoo, Polaris, Kawasaki and Yamaha - both on/off road stuff), this number of tuned engines per year is growing extremely fast.
BLUEZL600EFI
New member
So you can only request the 8600 rev limit if you run 100+ octane?
