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NOVEL IDEA - FOR ALL WHO ASK QUESTIONS

Novel Idea

Yes, I agree it would be very nice for someone to take the time to say "thank you" for the response. I find BlueKnight to be very helpful but personally, I'm plain scared to ask a question knowing I will get a couple of great answers and 2 pages of what an idiot I am for asking the question, loads of sarcasm, can't you use the search button, why are you asking another stupid tire question, etc. I choose to read the questions and sift through the answers to find the useful information.
 
RELEVANT INFO POSTS

IMHO its more because of the majority of the canned "take it to your dealer" type responses or lack of real help that seems to populate most of the threads. There are a lot of tech questions asked on here where the answers are really no help.

There is more real tech going on behind the scenes via PM and email.

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....Drew I agree with you on how threads " go down the toilet " with non-sense stuff and off-topic. I just \weed thru the Chaff to the people who I respect and move on........I just would like the people who answer questions to get recognized for their effort........All it takes is a ....CLICK
 
Mike, like or thank? I went back and liked all the replies. I didn't realize this was proper etiquette here. I'm not a Facebook person so the things on the bottom are new.

Should I go and thank them all in addition?!? Just confused.....

Jen, I don't think it's so much 'proper etiquette here' or that it's all that critical which way you acknowledge those who've bothered to reply & help, so much as it is that you simply DO acknowledge those who have responded!! It's only polite. :thumbup:

Hitting the 'Thanks' button can convey your appreciation for the response regardless of if it helped or not, which is maybe a (possibly subtle) difference to hitting the 'Like' button, which could also be taken to mean that you appreciate their response because it did help, or in the case of someone who's not the OP, you agree or support the answer that's been given - either as the OP or just an interested reader, sometimes you might choose to hit one or the other, & occasionally maybe even both; but whichever/whatever button you hit, you've at least acknowledged the effort the poster has made in providing a response - and you can do the same thing by posting a reply too! ;)

But IMO (& this is a general comment & not directed at anyone in particular) please, if you are posting in response to something already put up, try not to mindlessly 'Quote' the whole post when you only want to refer to a tiny part of it or just want to say 'I agree with what you said' or 'thanks'!! After all, if we've read that far thru the thread, we've already read the post you just quoted, so why repeat the whole thing?? Sure, if what you want to refer to appears waaaay up or even on an earlier page or comes from some other thread, then quote away; or if repeating the entirety of what someone posted is absolutely essential for your reply to make sense, then quote away there too; but if it's just up a bit or even the immediately prior post, then please don't quote!! If you must, you should be able to see from what I've done to the quote of Jen's post above, it wasn't all that hard to take out the bits of her most recent post that weren't important to my response, nor is it hard to maybe just use their name or username in your reply, like Jen did with the 'Mike' at the start of her reply, so why quote the whole thing?? Doing so needlessly IMO is just rude & lazy & disrespectful of every following reader!! :mad:

Look at it this way, if you were talking to someone in person and you always parroted back everything that they just said before getting around to starting on your reply, you'd certainly be considered sarcastic or rude, wouldn't you? (Try it one day if you don't believe me!!) And if you did the 'parrot back' thing a lot when you were talking to people in person just about anywhere it wouldn't be long before you ended up getting your nose rearranged on your face!! IMO it is just as rude 'needlessly quoting' here as it is parroting back everything someone just said before replying when you are talking in person, just like its rude to not acknowledge the replies you do get from a question/post!! And it's certainly a lot easier to follow the thread of a discussion if it's not interrupted by great slabs of 'quotes' that are just repeated blocks stuff that you've already read, especially if you are using a small screen device!!

So Thank or Like or even Post a reply as you feel fit, it's the acknowledgement that's important! But please, if you don't want to be considered rude & disrespectful, then don't 'Quote' unless it's really necessary for your response to make sense; & if you do feel it necessary, please edit out the 'not applicable' bits of the quote & just leave the critical bits, including the [.quote] & [./quote] at the start & finish & maybe a 'snip' or ...... in place of removed text so that everyone can see that it's a shortened Quote (extra .'s added there so it doesn't show as a quote) Thanks! :thumbup:
 
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Mike, like or thank? I went back and liked all the replies. I didn't realize this was proper etiquette here. I'm not a Facebook person so the things on the bottom are new.

Should I go and thank them all in addition?!? Just confused.

Thank you for your time and your responses to my posts and anyone else who you think might not be appreciative, even though we are.
Well Jen I answered your PM.......and in my Post #1. I said click the Thank you :) button ....this only means you read the Post from that Poster..........if you like or agree with it then click " LIKE "........and it's not a question of Proper etiquette HERE , at least not to me........I was raised to say Thank you.........And I'm not on Facebook either ........Mike ...WOW, I can't believe how many people " like " this thread :clap:
 
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In a certain %, WHY would you expect some one who was too LAZY to search the forum take the time to say THANK YOU? :joke:

With that said, did some use a TIA?

Personally, I've been thanked on several occasions.

Maybe they thought if they didn't I'd track them down and hurt them :roflblack:

AJ

I have begun to wonder why people here take the time to answer questions asked by others .....There seems to be a lot of ...QUESTION ASKERS ...who either don't APPEAR to come back or if they do - don't bother to acknowledge the people who took the time to try and Help them......I don't think a lengthy personal message to each one is needed...but it would be NICE if you checked the Thank you :) in the lower left corner. Then we know you at least read the post. This IMHO is just proper etiquette :coffee:...........Thank you.........Mike :bbq:
 
One reality, and I agree with all of the above, lack of respect/class,

I have found a LOT of help here using the search and asking questions, so even if the OP never thanked or came back, most help will help someone else sooner or later, so there is a lot of upside for the forum and the questions and even the "dumb/already answered a dozen times questions. When you search sometimes you find a number of threads that have been started at different times and many times there is newer info or solutions that are the results of a newer bike or a clever solution that most hadn't thought about.
 
Oh, I dunno ...
"The Younger Generation doesn't " __________________ (fill in the blank)

old chestnut that was first recorded in ancient Greece seems not to fit the non-follow up, IMHO.

Every generation has about the same mix of thoughtful considerate people and people who aren't.

What could be different, and i stress could, is the relationship to the computer that people going to school are taught in an educational system
that we designed.
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It's a tool to be used for solving the artificial problems presented in school and then later in life a tool to solve real problems.

Do you usually thank your hammer for pounding the nail?

So possibly the idea that there are real people typing back is a bit foreign.
 
I have begun to wonder why people here take the time to answer questions asked by others .....There seems to be a lot of ...QUESTION ASKERS ...who either don't APPEAR to come back or if they do - don't bother to acknowledge the people who took the time to try and Help them......I don't think a lengthy personal message to each one is needed...but it would be NICE if you checked the Thank you :) in the lower left corner. Then we know you at least read the post. This IMHO is just proper etiquette :coffee:...........Thank you.........Mike :bbq:

Thanks for the info. I never knew about the buttons.

Butch
 
RESPONSE TIME

But do not expect a response right away. The person asking the question may not be back on line for a while (work, family, trip, etc). Or perhaps they are checking their Spyder to see if the information (answer) makes sense or will help them.:)
I realize this so I wait a few days at least........However if I see they are posting on the same Thread ......Well :dontknow::dontknow::lecturef_smilie:......Mike :bbq:
 
I think that is because respect is not taught to kids anymore, like it used to be. There seems to be no time for it in many homes today or in the schools. CERTAINLY not on university campuses. There kids are taught today that if someone disagrees with what the professors think, they should be subject to ridicule, disrespect, and even violence at times. So sad. :sour:
Robmorg, I agree about what you said about "Respect" in Todays world kids do not have any respect for their elders etc. Enough said. :popcorn:

When I was growing up, I was taught to respect my elders. Deanna
 
If I have info about a subject on this site, I will post on that subject thread. Also, If I click on " Thank You" for what you posted on a Threads that I started ( example: DESS KEY CODE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) to me that means that people have read/or saw that Thread.

Sometimes I don't get a chance to say "Thank You or Liked the Post" on the thread that I have started( due to work, spyder riding etc.) but when I do get the time I do go back and check that Thread that I have started and say " Thank You or Liked the Post".


I am helpful and stay on the subject that someone else has started. Also, I will send that person a PM with more info about a subject, if I feel I need to, and sometimes I will send that person to an other helpful spyder owner for more info. on the subject. Deanna :doorag:
 
Rob I agree with what you are saying however I don't think the AGE thing is applicable on this forum....The majority left childhood so far behind it isn't even a Memory..:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:..........Mike :bbq:

True! For a moment I forgot where I was. :roflblack: But when I am riding, or sometimes even thinking about riding my Spyder, I feel decades younger than I am. :sour:
 


When I was growing up, I was taught to respect my elders. Deanna
Absolutely! If ever my Mother felt that she was not receiving the proper amount of respect from me, I was immediately subject to a stern lecture about how many long hours she was was in labor just to bring me into this world. ;)
 
About the 'thanking' and 'liking', this is the only web forum that I frequent that has that little feature.:shocked:
So if I haven't 'thanked' or 'liked' in the past it was because I didn't know it was there.:opps:
I do post a reply thanking most always. Now there are two ways.

Thanks !:thumbup: Potius sero quam nunquam
 
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Jen, I don't think it's so much 'proper etiquette here' or that it's all that critical which way you acknowledge those who've bothered to reply & help, so much as it is that you simply DO acknowledge those who have responded!! It's only polite. :thumbup:

Hitting the 'Thanks' button can convey your appreciation for the response regardless of if it helped or not, which is maybe a (possibly subtle) difference to hitting the 'Like' button, which could also be taken to mean that you appreciate their response because it did help, or in the case of someone who's not the OP, you agree or support the answer that's been given - either as the OP or just an interested reader, sometimes you might choose to hit one or the other, & occasionally maybe even both; but whichever/whatever button you hit, you've at least acknowledged the effort the poster has made in providing a response - and you can do the same thing by posting a reply too! ;)

But IMO (& this is a general comment & not directed at anyone in particular) please, if you are posting in response to something already put up, try not to mindlessly 'Quote' the whole post when you only want to refer to a tiny part of it or just want to say 'I agree with what you said' or 'thanks'!! After all, if we've read that far thru the thread, we've already read the post you just quoted, so why repeat the whole thing?? Sure, if what you want to refer to appears waaaay up or even on an earlier page or comes from some other thread, then quote away; or if repeating the entirety of what someone posted is absolutely essential for your reply to make sense, then quote away there too; but if it's just up a bit or even the immediately prior post, then please don't quote!! If you must, you should be able to see from what I've done to the quote of Jen's post above, it wasn't all that hard to take out the bits of her most recent post that weren't important to my response, nor is it hard to maybe just use their name or username in your reply, like Jen did with the 'Mike' at the start of her reply, so why quote the whole thing?? Doing so needlessly IMO is just rude & lazy & disrespectful of every following reader!! :mad:

Look at it this way, if you were talking to someone in person and you always parroted back everything that they just said before getting around to starting on your reply, you'd certainly be considered sarcastic or rude, wouldn't you? (Try it one day if you don't believe me!!) And if you did the 'parrot back' thing a lot when you were talking to people in person just about anywhere it wouldn't be long before you ended up getting your nose rearranged on your face!! IMO it is just as rude 'needlessly quoting' here as it is parroting back everything someone just said before replying when you are talking in person, just like its rude to not acknowledge the replies you do get from a question/post!! And it's certainly a lot easier to follow the thread of a discussion if it's not interrupted by great slabs of 'quotes' that are just repeated blocks stuff that you've already read, especially if you are using a small screen device!!

So Thank or Like or even Post a reply as you feel fit, it's the acknowledgement that's important! But please, if you don't want to be considered rude & disrespectful, then don't 'Quote' unless it's really necessary for your response to make sense; & if you do feel it necessary, please edit out the 'not applicable' bits of the quote & just leave the critical bits, including the [.quote] & [./quote] at the start & finish & maybe a 'snip' or ...... in place of removed text so that everyone can see that it's a shortened Quote (extra .'s added there so it doesn't show as a quote) Thanks! :thumbup:

From all the times I have seen Bob's likes and thanks and Mike's likes and thanks I thought this was just a way to help them up their post numbers. Personally, I take the time to type "Thank You" when someone helps me. I just hope that spring comes soon and there is something more to discuss than clicking like or clicking thanks. Good God we need some testosterone in here. Please accept my apologies for quoting the whole post but it had so much good advice it had to be repeated.
 
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