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[Purple Guy]

The problem for a lot of us with the RT is that we don't ride loaded to the hilt all the time. A lot of us do more day trips with some sport riding. Having the bars in your lap just doesn't work for a lot of us as well as all the RT's extra heft just isn't conducive to the way a lot of us ride. QUOTE]

:agree: Not everybody needs or wants the storage capacity...
Different strokes, for different folks!
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:agree:

That's why they have more than one model....

 

[camogirl]

First Ride

I took a demo ride today on a 2015 ST. I was impressed at the comfort and scared in the curves. I did get a little better by the end of the demo. After almost 300k on 2 wheels it is hard to relearn a total different way to ride. Took my first curve at 45, it was posted at 35. The shimmy in the front scared me silly. So I figured since I was sitting straight and not counter leaning I figured it was me. So I tried riding it like my snowmobile. Ah, much better. Still it will take time to not reach for the clutch, front brake or the clutch handle.
They did have a 2014 ST limited, but 20k is a little out of my budget range. So now I am on the hunt. Can anyone tell me which years to stay away from. Or since I will probably be looking for used is there something I should keep my eye out for?

 

[DrewNJ]

I took a demo ride today on a 2015 ST. I was impressed at the comfort and scared in the curves. I did get a little better by the end of the demo. After almost 300k on 2 wheels it is hard to relearn a total different way to ride. Took my first curve at 45, it was posted at 35. The shimmy in the front scared me silly. So I figured since I was sitting straight and not counter leaning I figured it was me. So I tried riding it like my snowmobile. Ah, much better. Still it will take time to not reach for the clutch, front brake or the clutch handle.
They did have a 2014 ST limited, but 20k is a little out of my budget range. So now I am on the hunt. Can anyone tell me which years to stay away from. Or since I will probably be looking for used is there something I should keep my eye out for?

Stay away from 2013..... period.

 

[900Dave]

Stay away from 2013..... period.

MY 2013 ST Limited has been absolutely trouble free. Just make sure you have the 2014 air flow panels. 2013/14/15 ST is the same machine.

Maybe you meant say stay away from the 2013 RT?

 

[PistonBlown]

I believe the ST only appeared on the scene in 2013, at least that's the case in NZ. So if your thinking of going for an ST then you are limited to the 2013 onwards.

Most of the heat issues with the 2013's have been with the RT's not the ST/RS's. Unfortunately all 2013's have rather unjustly been tarred with the same brush.

There was a problem with the engine mapping with the ST/RS 2013 that generated more heat but that was fixed with an update around mid 2013. The other contributing factor was the 2013 ST/RS's have a different exhaust system from the earlier RS's. From 2013 the CAT is separate and mounted under the rear of the engine which did increase the heat in the engine area. As far as I'm aware from 2014 onwards the only change that was made to the ST/RS's was some slightly modified body panels with an extra air scoops at the top to help air movement and reduce heat.

So if your looking at ST's then it's worth considering a 2013, partly because the price is likely to be good just because of the reputation of heat issues - though that may also impact your resale value of course. If you did get one though you'd want to factor in getting the updated body panels which I think someone posted cost about US$300. One of the site sponsors also does a CAT bypass which obviously also helps keep heat down.

The RS has of course been around longer and some owners have turned them into de facto ST's so if the price of ST's is still a bit high it may be worth looking at those.

 

[Saluda]

Have no problems with our 2013 ST

Both before and after the panel changes. Thought people were getting them at N/C (new panels).

 

[Bob Denman]

Riding it like a snowmobile... works EVERY time! :2thumbs:
If you're looking for a used bike; be cautious around the 2013 model year bikes...

 

[camogirl]

I believe the ST only appeared on the scene in 2013, at least that's the case in NZ. So if your thinking of going for an ST then you are limited to the 2013 onwards.

Most of the heat issues with the 2013's have been with the RT's not the ST/RS's. Unfortunately all 2013's have rather unjustly been tarred with the same brush.

There was a problem with the engine mapping with the ST/RS 2013 that generated more heat but that was fixed with an update around mid 2013. The other contributing factor was the 2013 ST/RS's have a different exhaust system from the earlier RS's. From 2013 the CAT is separate and mounted under the rear of the engine which did increase the heat in the engine area. As far as I'm aware from 2014 onwards the only change that was made to the ST/RS's was some slightly modified body panels with an extra air scoops at the top to help air movement and reduce heat.

So if your looking at ST's then it's worth considering a 2013, partly because the price is likely to be good just because of the reputation of heat issues - though that may also impact your resale value of course. If you did get one though you'd want to factor in getting the updated body panels which I think someone posted cost about US$300. One of the site sponsors also does a CAT bypass which obviously also helps keep heat down.

The RS has of course been around longer and some owners have turned them into de facto ST's so if the price of ST's is still a bit high it may be worth looking at those.

Thanks for the advice. A friend found a new 2013 still at a dealer. Only 8 miles on it. Going to try and get there this week.