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NOT HAPPY WITH MY SPYDER!!!
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Firefly
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Need more info:
How old is Spyder?
Which Model?
HAve you had recent updates done?
Oil in the airbox is normal.
If the problem is 'stuttering' around 3000 - 4000 RPMs --- it's most likely due to the new steering update-- which also made changes to the purge valve.
Do a search out here for Purge Valve or Evap Canister------
its a 2008.. with 2600 miles.sm5. onthing on it is the two brothers exhaust and juice box...... that is what is happing at 3000-4000 rpms... stuttering... not a very nice sound....
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Although what Fire is recommending is working for many, I'm not one to perform surgery on my bike to fix what should have been a simple update...
I'd go to the dealer and have them poke around. The bike is under warranty and they should be willing to help you.
As far as removing parts from the bike and fiddling around, you might void your warranty, depending on what the dealer thinks...
Keep adjusting your JB. Mine always had low speed surging and sputtering in the 3800-4200 range, even before the update. I did not purchase the JB until after the update and I'm still tweaking it. I have a Hindle and green air filter. My last settings, which so far are working real good are .5,7,7,7,2,2 I have no surging, so far in the 3800-4200 range, but I've only put 100 miles on it since I've changed settings. The previous settings were .5,6,6,7,.5,.5 and I was getting surging in the same range.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I didn't realize you were getting surging before the update....I haven't been on the bike enough since the update to really fiddle with the JB...hope to get some miles in sooner or later...will be fun to play with the JB again...
krb1945
New member
Fleet2904...
my 2008 SM5 did the same thing after the update. It has the Hindle. Mine was running fine until the update. after that it spit, sputtered and surged. I have a temp solution that helped mine until I can get it back to the dealer. Part of the problem seems to be low back pressure on the Hindles and TBSs.
I pushed a walmart stainless pot scrubber pad in the end of the muffler. It now runs just like it did before the update... smooooooooooth... no spitting, sputtering or surging and plenty of power to smoke the tire.
I'm certain some are laughing about this but it is working and it doesn't put much b/p on the system. Just enough to help it run normally.
my 2008 SM5 did the same thing after the update. It has the Hindle. Mine was running fine until the update. after that it spit, sputtered and surged. I have a temp solution that helped mine until I can get it back to the dealer. Part of the problem seems to be low back pressure on the Hindles and TBSs.
I pushed a walmart stainless pot scrubber pad in the end of the muffler. It now runs just like it did before the update... smooooooooooth... no spitting, sputtering or surging and plenty of power to smoke the tire.
I'm certain some are laughing about this but it is working and it doesn't put much b/p on the system. Just enough to help it run normally.
First dealer I went to didn't do everything they were supposed to during the update and I had the same results as you. No matter how I adjusted JB it didn't help. Tried another dealer they redid the download, recalibrated everything and cleared out all of the fault codes, and now it runs great again. I would have dealer try again if it was me.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Yupster!:2thumbs:
sabunim5
New member
I pushed a walmart stainless pot scrubber pad in the end of the muffler. It now runs just like it did before the update... smooooooooooth... no spitting, sputtering or surging and plenty of power to smoke the tire.
I'm certain some are laughing about this but it is working and it doesn't put much b/p on the system. Just enough to help it run normally. __________________
"The Ancient Warrior"
:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.
I'm certain some are laughing about this but it is working and it doesn't put much b/p on the system. Just enough to help it run normally. __________________
"The Ancient Warrior"
:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.
I HAVE BEEN CALLING AROUND IN CT.. AND TALKING TO DIFFERENT DEALERS AND THE MECHS... SOME KNOW WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT AND SOME DONT HAVE A CLUE.. BUT IAM GOING TO TAKE IT TO ANOTHER DEALER AND GET THEM TO LOOK AT IT...
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
That's your best bet...save the pot scrubber for the pots! :joke:
Tom in NM
New member
KRB, yeah, it sounds funny, but it is very clever. For those people with after market pipes and update problems, this should be a test they perform along with the evap canister pinching. Each separately and together.
And yes, ( as you say above ) it is a temporary mod, but it will sure help in diagnosing where a problem is or isn't.
Tom
krb1945
New member
Just got back ahead of the rain...
and the SM5 with the Hindle and pot scrubber is running "smooth as silk". No hesitation from the back pressure just pure raw horse power wanting to run.
No surge, no spitting, no sputtering and no hesitation. I really like a smooth running engine. :thumbup:Even if part of it does come from Wal-Mart.
and the SM5 with the Hindle and pot scrubber is running "smooth as silk". No hesitation from the back pressure just pure raw horse power wanting to run.
No surge, no spitting, no sputtering and no hesitation. I really like a smooth running engine. :thumbup:Even if part of it does come from Wal-Mart.
ataDude
Mod Maniac
yea.. there mech.... gave me lots of info on whats been going on.... they where the ones to do the update on my spyder..... i called land and sea... they seemed alittle more friendly and informative....
Firefly
Active member
Just a FYI on netiquette---- typing in ALL CAPS is considered YELLING on the internet....
Cliff-Co.
Member
What did ya use ta keep the pot scrubber, in the muffler :shocked: ??, mine blew out after a few :yikes:, so i used copper wire ta tie it in muffler :2thumbs:
BLACK WIDOW
New member
All Caps
But you can type faster with all caps-----Don't have to fiddle with the SHIFT key.
Just a FYI on netiquette---- typing in ALL CAPS is considered YELLING on the internet....
But you can type faster with all caps-----Don't have to fiddle with the SHIFT key.
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