Nitrogen on tires or not, that is the question...

[bscrive]

It all comes down to you. Do you have the money to throw away? If so, then donate that money to a charity and fill your tires with air. You will feel much better.

Nitrogen is a scam. Unless you suck out all the 'air' in your tires first or put in another tire valve so the air can escape when you fill it with nitrogen then you are wasting your time and money.

 

[spyder3]

so, what is the process if one wants to put nitrogen in existing tires? How do they do it?:dontknow:

 

[Dan_Ashley]

If nitrogen is good because of the size of the molecules, would've carbon dioxide be better?

 

[Magdave]

so, what is the process if one wants to put nitrogen in existing tires? How do they do it?:dontknow:

First it probably won't need any topping off, but if it needs 1 lb or 2 topping off with air will not do anything bad to it. The above poster who said it is a scam have you tried it? As far as filling it removing the valve stem and letting the air out will take it pretty close to 0 psi. People are over thinking it 99% nitrogen is virtually as good as 100% until you have tried it and done the checks (as I have) do not discount the fact that you will need far less (if any) topping off. I ran my Corvette for 2yrs and lost 2lbs of pressure. It simply does what is said. It does not seep out for far longer periods and maintains a steadier PSI for longer periods. It will maintain a steady air pressure at different temperatures ( air DOES NOT). Most places that use it should be able to top it off like the place you get it from. It is not rocket science or rare and maintaining proper inflation will save $$$ with better MPG . Most places that fill tires with air DO NOT have 100% effective filter driers on their compressors so what ever humidity is in the air turns to H2O under pressure. I would be more than willing to read something factual that says it is a scam rather than listen to opinions without any basis.

 

[Magdave]

If nitrogen is good because of the size of the molecules, would've carbon dioxide be better?

If it were airplanes and race cars would be using it.

 

[crazyspyder]

my 2c

I used to run nitrogen on all my tires...but frankly its not readily available every where, so when you do need a few pounds down the road you're gonna run ALL over town trying to find a shop that has a nitro system. nitrogen filled tires has its particular purpose- just
not for every day daily drivers. just my opinion off course!:thumbup:

 

[SubDriver]

Seems from the comments Nirtrogin would have it's definite advantages. Where would you go to get it? Never looked but i don't think I have ever seen any place that has it?
Tanks!

 

[StanProff]

I use 79% Nitrogen and 20% oxygen and 1% other inert gas.
I use it in everything I put air into

Yep! that's the air we breathe. Car dealers have really overblown (no pun intended) the Nitrogen issue. Sure, it is an inert gas, it's dry, anyone who has worked with refrigeration systems has used it to purge out the air and moisture. We also know how cheap a large bottle of nitrogen is. That's why I can't help but laugh at the window stickers on new cars that list nitrogen filled tires and a cost of 195.00 or something like that. I just use air in everything.

 

[Bob Denman]

This is almost starting to sound like an "Oil Thread"... :shocked:

 

[spyder3]

i'm thinking of giving this a try. I'm lazy so If I don't have to keep checking and adding air to tires esp in the winter, I don't see a downside. worth a try IMO

Here is a link with questions and answers.. http://www.getnitrogen.org/sub.php?view=getTheFacts&subpage=maximizes

 

[bscrive]

First it probably won't need any topping off, but if it needs 1 lb or 2 topping off with air will not do anything bad to it. The above poster who said it is a scam have you tried it? As far as filling it removing the valve stem and letting the air out will take it pretty close to 0 psi. People are over thinking it 99% nitrogen is virtually as good as 100% until you have tried it and done the checks (as I have) do not discount the fact that you will need far less (if any) topping off. I ran my Corvette for 2yrs and lost 2lbs of pressure. It simply does what is said. It does not seep out for far longer periods and maintains a steadier PSI for longer periods. It will maintain a steady air pressure at different temperatures ( air DOES NOT). Most places that use it should be able to top it off like the place you get it from. It is not rocket science or rare and maintaining proper inflation will save $$$ with better MPG . Most places that fill tires with air DO NOT have 100% effective filter driers on their compressors so what ever humidity is in the air turns to H2O under pressure. I would be more than willing to read something factual that says it is a scam rather than listen to opinions without any basis.

Actually, I have several family members in the car business and they tell me that it is a scam to get the dealership more money on a car sale since it is almost 100% profit. But, if you think it works for you then fill your tires with it. But, I will save my money for far better farkles. hyea:hyea:hyea:

 

[SPYD3R]

IN/ON

you asked if it was ok to put Nitrogen "ON" your tires....
i would recommend putting "IN" your tires...
dp

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: After all; doesn't urine contain a lot of nitrogen?

 

[shelbydave]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=191


Note the bottom of the write up "What should drivers do?"

 

[Magdave]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=191


Note the bottom of the write up "What should drivers do?"

My car dealer uses it $30 is the price. There is no downside and possible benefits especially if you do not want to constantly monitor your tire pressure. In TPMS cars it is easier to see the benefit because you can monitor the pressure without touching the tires. Every time you check your pressure you lose a squirt. With a quality gauge that fits well and easily it is minimal but still a loss. TPMS should be on the Spyders especially since the front is so pressure sensitive.

 

[Roadster Renovations]

I wonder if some who say nitrogen is snake oil ever used it? Secondly how many spend $1000's on farkles that do nothing and are not willing to spend between $20-$30 to save from checking the tire pressure every time they ride. Thirdly If you use air and set the rear tire to 28psi after it gets hot it will be 32-35psi. Wonder if that has anything to do with the center of the Kenda's wearing out. If you fill with 28psi nitrogen and the tire gets hot it will be ~30psi. If you let it sit and ambient temps go from summer to winter the 28psi will drop with air but not with Nitrogen. Same goes in the spring. I used to check my pressure twice a year with nitrogen,,,just sayin' :thumbup:

One thing I can tell you is that my rear Kendra tire that wore out in 6K miles was run at 28psi. I also carry a digital tire gauge and have measured it right off of the interstate and never saw it raise more than 1-2 lbs, even on the hottest day and/or the fastest ride. We always ride 2 up and are not small people, so I doubt if anyone would have pressure increase above what we saw. Those tires were a bad compound in my opinion and that was the reason for the premature wear. Your other point is valid.

 

[Magdave]

One thing I can tell you is that my rear Kendra tire that wore out in 6K miles was run at 28psi. I also carry a digital tire gauge and have measured it right off of the interstate and never saw it raise more than 1-2 lbs, even on the hottest day and/or the fastest ride. We always ride 2 up and are not small people, so I doubt if anyone would have pressure increase above what we saw. Those tires were a bad compound in my opinion and that was the reason for the premature wear. Your other point is valid.

My estimated increase may have been off probably due to less load weight vs. automobile. Regardless the change will be less with Nitrogen.:thumbup:

 

[Frank G]

[h=1]Increase the lifespan and fuel economy with a NitroMax tire inflation.[/h]Maintaining proper tire inflation is essential to keep your tires safe. Under-inflation is a leading cause of tire failure. Fewer than half of all drivers check the condition of their tires on a regular basis. At Tireman, knowing you are driving on safe tires is so important to us that we offer the very best in tire inflation with our NitroMax nitrogen.
Filling your tires with nitrogen offers the following benefits:

• Save $150-300 in annual fuel savings
• Improves total tire life by up to 31%
• It is non-flammable, non-combustable gas for increased safety
• Decreases oxidation and rust on the rim and valve stem
• Enables tires to operate at a 20% cooler temperature

The above was copied from the website of Tireman Auto Service centers located in Toledo Ohio.

They have done all of my tire work for the last 52 years. All new tires purchased from them come filled with nitrogen. FREE

 

[BikerDoc]

I do notice that threads that stimulate arguments last forever on here while good news vanishes overnight.

 

[2RTsGV]

Hello again to all, Greetings from Tequila country...quick one, is it ok and/or recomendable to put Nitrogen on the tires instead of regular air?...I am planning to put Ride-on on the tires and wondering if it would be a benefit or detriment. They supposedly run cooler and bla bla but just in case better ask...Thanks to all!!!hyea:

this is the first time I have heard of Ride-on (must be the sheltered life I have had!). Sounds like a great product, thus naturally I now have the following questions:
1. Where to get this product
2. How long does it take to have inserted into the tires
3. How much does it cost per tire

Any assistance with answers to these questions is greatly appreciated.