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NHTSA investigation update

No, riding is not a 'hobby' for me either. Riding a '09 GS that has had no problems.

Don't know why you're comparing a '57 HD with what ever year, except a '13 RT, that your beloved wants to buy. Don't know when you bought the '57, but the older the bike, the more TLC/mechanical skills you need. Rebuilding a '98 HD evo carburetor as we speak.

Feel sorry for you wife...
Not a hobby? What is it then? Are you paid to ride a spyder? Or are you required to ride a spyder?
 
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lets see if you understand this,,, i ride to live BUT i don't live to ride,,,does that make sense

I hate to say this; but, Drew has/wins this one.

And, DrewNJ is my hobby. I don't get paid to read his posts, and they're not required reading; but, I enjoy the hell out of his argumentative stance, in my leisure time.

DrewNJ, does that pretty much cover it?
 
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The majority of us ride our spyders for the same reason. Its something we enjoy, that also distracts us from some of the aggravations in life that we don't enjoy so much.
However, when the hobby (yes, hobby) becomes part of the aggravation that its supposed to be distracting us from, then that's when its time to find a new hobby.
And I have to say, there are some VERY miserable folks on here right now. Maybe its time to cut loose and move on for some??
 
I hate to say this; but, Drew has/wins this one.

And, DrewNJ is my hobby. I don't get paid to read his posts, and they're not required reading; but, I enjoy the hell out of his argumentative stance, in my leisure time.

DrewNJ, does that pretty much cover it?
glad I'm able to entertain....[emoji13] [emoji106]
 
The majority of us ride our spyders for the same reason. Its something we enjoy, that also distracts us from some of the aggravations in life that we don't enjoy so much.
However, when the hobby (yes, hobby) becomes part of the aggravation that its supposed to be distracting us from, then that's when its time to find a new hobby.
And I have to say, there are some VERY miserable folks on here right now. Maybe its time to cut loose and move on for some??

I think everyone has a right to post what they want after all you don't have to read it either, I don't agree with everything that is said on here but I don't feel the need to try to rub their nose in it if I don't agree with what they are saying after all misery loves company
 
I think everyone has a right to post what they want after all you don't have to read it either, I don't agree with everything that is said on here but I don't feel the need to try to rub their nose in it if I don't agree with what they are saying after all misery loves company
I agree 100%!
 
The majority of us ride our spyders for the same reason. Its something we enjoy, that also distracts us from some of the aggravations in life that we don't enjoy so much.
However, when the hobby (yes, hobby) becomes part of the aggravation that its supposed to be distracting us from, then that's when its time to find a new hobby.
And I have to say, there are some VERY miserable folks on here right now. Maybe its time to cut loose and move on for some??

I will agree, some but not all are just miserable.

As mentioned, it is a hobby, people, life is short and you should do your best to have fun. If the Spyder as is doesn't do it, then make a change. Change is to either make the proper mods, or find something better to ride, lastly find a non moto hobby and enjoy that.

If your hobby is just complaining, being negative and closed minded, some people here are living the dream.

I certainly hope BRP brings you good news. Just realize, it may not be the fumes and fire killing you, the mental anguish is doing rather well in that department.

PK
 
I guess it's hard for some to understand, but some folks ride motorcycles and spyders as their main form of transportation, weather permitting. Riding to work or calling on customers is not a "hobby". I'm sorry you can't get that. I'm glad to see how some of you act when you disagree.....I'm gone.........
 
Hobby?

This "hobby" issue is a red herring. Owning a boat or a yacht or an airplane or a sportscar are also "hobbies" as they are not essential transportation. So what? It is irrelevant. These are expensive machines that operate in and out of traffic. The owners can expect the product to perform reasonably, i.e. to be able to safely and reliably perform their intended purpose. IMHO BRP has reached a crossroad. If they wish the Spyders to have a reputation of reliability BRP will incur the expense to make them all safe and reliable. If they want to be known as a manufacturer of dangerous and unreliable products they will continue to ignore the issues. Its just that simple.
 
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So, I guess there are no

updates to report? I reread the posts because I thought there may actually have been an update reported....
 
Well, I for one know of ONE sale that all this comedy has cost. My wife was all set to pull the trigger on an RT but has since backed off. I for one don't want her riding a vehicle that may or may not make it home. I had a '57 HD that was a pos and I don't need another. I also don't want my garage burned down, my house burned down, or anything else burned down. I do not want anyone in my family or anyone else hurt. I do not want a machine that spends more time at a dealer who may or may not have any idea what he is doing. I do not want to purchase a machine from a company who may not come out of this debacle. This is not "bashing" anyone or any company, but to release a machine like this on the public needs some answers. I feel for the guys that are having problems. If I paid what they get for these things and had the problems, I would be p.o.ed too. For some, riding is not just a "hobby" either. I am sure there have been many folks who have changed their minds about a purchase.

The 2014 will change your mind. 33,000 miles since February 21, 2014 and not one mechanical issue.
 
updates to report? I reread the posts because I thought there may actually have been an update reported....

No, I think BRP has at least one more week before they have to turn everything in to NHTSA. If you read the letter from them to BRP it will be a mountain of paper (if printed) for the agency to wade through.
 
I see that aircraft made the list. The Spyder costs an average of $400/year (sans fuel) for maintenance (3 Spyders and 50K miles), while my airplane will cost me an average of $22K per year, even if I only put 100 hours on it. I don't consider flying a "hobby", since I use it for business, can write it off my taxes, and can avoid all the hassles of commercial flying, and get there as fast (or faster) as commercial airlines.

My Spyder is a hobby.
 
Not a hobby? What is it then? Are you paid to ride a spyder? Or are you required to ride a spyder?

Guess you didn't read the the quote I was replying to. Maybe you would have figured out why I wrote what I did.
 
Guess you didn't read the the quote I was replying to. Maybe you would have figured out why I wrote what I did.
Still didn't answer my questions....but please, don't bother...it doesn't matter. Thanks.
 
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This thread has really gone off topic .. The title is NHTSA investigation update.. Please stay on topic so we can see any updates or new info. Thanks
 
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