newbie with RPM question

[daveinva]

...they are a LOT cheaper than a new seat. I got mine today, rode 200+ miles and didn't have a sore bottom at all. They also offer a 60 day triakl period, so if she doesn't like it, she can send it back for a full refund. Mine cost less than $200 and shipping was free. Ordered it yesterday about 2:00 p.m.; it arrived this morning about 10:00 a.m.

:agree: Best bet is to add to the seat before replacing it: Airhawk, Beadrider, sheepskin, etc. I have both an Airhawk and a Beadrider, like both, use both (I find it helps to switch them out on a long ride, changes things up).

But if you do go the aftermarket seat route, you have plenty of options: BRP Comfort Seat, Corbin, Russell Day-Long, Ultimate Seat (what I have, very happy), etc., etc. PLENTY of threads here on the subject, search away!

 

[BajaRon]

The Spyder does not have the much needed 6th gear due to having a reverse so it revs way more than needed at highway speeds, I put a 30 tooth front sprocket on which made a great difference, the bike is much more relaxed and pleasant to ride. Very few people here seem to realize the benefit of saving millions of revolutions on the engine over its lifetime, since the 30 tooth sprockets are no longer made, I am hoping mine will last many miles. Just tolerate the over-reving, thats about all you can do...good luck

This is a common misconception. It would be like saying a Harley is an under-revving motorcycle. The truth is engines are designed to produce power in a particular RPM range. The Rotax used in the Spyder simply uses a higher RPM to produce power. It is engineered that way.

If you use a good oil (and you know I recommend Amsoil because it virtually eleminates metal to metal contact and thus wear is also eleminated) your Spyder engine will actually last longer running it as designed than it will lugging it around at 3,000 RPM where it is not designed to run.

A 6th gear would be nice, I agree. But since we don't have one it's best just to move on and ride the Spyder as designed.

 

[Bob Denman]

Any particular reason you choose to run 93 octane? :dontknow:

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/autos/aut12.shtm

Perhaps because of the changes that he's made to the intake (and exhaust?). :dontknow:

Normally a GS should be "good to go" on 87...

 

[BajaRon]

Perhaps because of the changes that he's made to the intake (and exhaust?). :dontknow:

Normally a GS should be "good to go" on 87...

Another football topic but I disagree. The RS/GS WILL run on 87 octane, and in cold weather it's proably fine. But do you want your RS/GS to run, or do you want it to run as well as possible?

The Rotax is a high compression and high heat engine. These 2 components work together to encourage pre-ignition in the cylinder called Knocking. Since this is very damaging to the engine the Spyder has sensors that detect this condition before it becomes a problem and the computer will retard ignition to prevent knocking.

Retarded ignition reduces power and fuel mileage but your Spyder WILL continue to run without knocking. If this is the way you want your Spyder to function then that's fine.

However, in hot temperatures or when your Spyder is working hard you're losing power in exchange for protecting your engine. To avoid having the computer compensate for too low an octane fuel, use a higher octane. That's what I do. I run premium 93 octane in warm or hot weather.

 

[Bob Denman]

Ron,
That's why I said, "should be"...
I'm getting a bit tired of the whole 87 vs 89 vs 91 vs 93 vs avgas debate too! :banghead:

 

[boborgera]

Ron,
That's why I said, "should be"...
I'm getting a bit tired of the whole 87 vs 89 vs 91 vs 93 vs avgas debate too! :banghead:

The fat lady is never gonna sing on this one.
The ones that use prem. are always going to justify why their paying more for prem.
The ones that use reg. are always going to justify why their paying less for reg.
And the truth is, Nobody wants to listen to the truth.

 

[Bob Denman]

I fear that you are 100 percent correct... :thumbup:
But it does keep things lively around here!

 

[NancysToy]

...but I hear Avgas will make your Spyder really fly! :roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

:2thumbs:

:firstplace:

 

[Sarge707]

Their ripping us of with the Gas differential price-
My 87 is 3.95, 89 4.15, 91 4.25?
Used to be about 10 cent difference between 87 and 89?
NOW they bump the difference to 20 between 87 and 89.
Anyone notice that?
:hun:

 

[BajaRon]

Their ripping us of with the Gas differential price-
My 87 is 3.95, 89 4.15, 91 4.25?
Used to be about 10 cent difference between 87 and 89?
NOW they bump the difference to 20 between 87 and 89.
Anyone notice that?
:hun:

It's a percentage of the total price bump between grades. As the price goes up the differential between grades does too. At $2.00 it was about $0.10 per bump. Now at $4.00 it's about $0.20 per grade bump.

 

[ARtraveler]

Jerryc: I also have an Airhawk and a Sheepskin pad with gel that I use over the Corbin. It all depends on my "pain of the day". Both are helpful in different ways.

Bob & Bob: Octane--you both have it right on the head. I don't know diddly about the technical aspects of octane vs. performance. My perceptions are: The GS liked premium and did not run as snappy on 89. The RS. was "happy" with 89. My RTS only likes premium. We have 91 here at the highest.

I still have the gas price thread going--because I really want to see what happens by memorial day. Any changes--please post there also. They have currently bumped regular up to 4.22 and I don't see them stopping. Our grade differential is still 10 cents per grade up. Here its the weekly cat & mouse game so they think they can sneak one up on us.

The president was down to OK yesterday at a pipeline company. He wants them to start building the "last leg" as in OK to Houstan TX. What about the northern 95% of the pipeline? I hope that is not considered to political. If it is, I will delete the paragraph.

opcorn:opcorn:

 

[boborgera]

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The president was down to OK yesterday at a pipeline company. He wants them to start building the "last leg" as in OK to Houstan TX. What about the northern 95% of the pipeline? I hope that is not considered to political. If it is, I will delete the paragraph.

opcorn:opcorn:

If anyone thinks the keystone pipeline, When finish is going to lower fuel prices in the USA their mistaken'.
With the new technology there retrieving more oil from the old oil wells than in 08/09, And That's causing a back log of oil in the Midwest/Canadian pipe lines, The real purpose of the pipeline is to free up those lines so the oil can get to the refineries on the Gulf, AND then ship it to world markets where the oil companies can sell it for a higher price.

 

[ARtraveler]

I also do not believe that more pipelines will equal lower gas prices. Look at AK, we are pumping 600,000 barrels a day, and sending it through the pipeline we have. We and Hawaii still traditionally have the highest gas prices in the nation on a regular basis.

The reason: The refinery people say it costs more to operate the two refineries we have in AK.
The other side says they are marking up overhead costs to obtain a higher price here.

The only bad thing--either way--we seem to be getting the golden shaft.

 

[Bob Denman]

Yet we always seem to give the oll companies lots of subsidies; don't we?? :gaah::gaah::gaah: