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newbie questions

Darrin:

you also have a Semi-Automatic, Can Am does not make a Spyder with an automatic transmission.

Cruzr Joe
I would argue it's not a semi-automatic either. That, to me, implies an automatic type transmission that you shift manually. The Spyder transmission is a manual transmission with an electric shift module added on. The trans is not bands, plates, and plantary gears like an automatic. It is solid gears with synchromesh shifting executed by the electric/hydraulic shift module.

wmh9680, as far as shifting the SE (which means Shift Electric) the real difference between the Spyder and what you are used to is you substitute the use of your thumb and first finger for your foot and all four fingers. And you never will find yourself at a stop sign having to shift from 5th to 1st because you didn't downshift before stopping. The Spyder is always, well 99.9999% of the time, in 1st when you come to a stop.

As far a trike comparisons I'll share this. A lady in out Spyder chapter recently moved from a Harley Sportser to an F3. She took a trike rider training course. The instructor told her to make some turns sharp enough and fast enough to lift the inside wheel so she would know how and when it can happen. She told him it won't do it. He did not believe her so he said he would show her how. Well, he got on her F3 and found out pretty quickly you can't. She said he was duly impressed. All the other trikes will lift an inside wheel as the prelude to rolling over. The Spyder most likely never will because of Nanny!

As for myself, a year ago as I was coming home from a 7000 mile trip I stopped for gas. As I was walking into the truck stop it dawned on me that I was feeling a whole lot safer on my 2013 RT at 80 mph than I ever did on my 2005 Honda Goldwing at 70 mph.
 
..WTF...this is the kind of crap that caused me to stay off the board the last time...Joe is a big boy and can stand up for Himself, I'm sure. So why don't you mind your own business, instead of trying to start trouble. Since this is a family oriented board I'll just leave it at :cus: :cus: :cus: :cus: :cus:......

Boy u are sensitive with a joke.

Hate to see if someone questioned u. No sense of humor

I quess i apologize:dontknow: yikes
 
wmh9680, the 998 V-twin is a fine engine and my 2013 RT has been quite a fine ride. But I opted to move up to the 1330 ACE for a few reasons. As has been mentioned the 1330 is a slower turning engine with a lot more torque. It also gets much better gas mileage. I haven't had a chance to ride my '14 RT yet so I don't have a personal comparison to offer. I rode a demo 2015 RT at Spyderfest last spring on about a 1/2 hour ride. Based on that ride I say the 1330 is on par with the Goldwing out on the highway.

What kind of riding do you like to do, easy rides on secondary roads, or a fair amount of hauling a** on an Interstate? If the former the 998 engine will serve you well. But I'm on the Interstate quite a bit and I found the 998 to be lacking on top end oomph. It's slow passing semis at 70 mph + on the Interstate, especially if you have a head wind. The 998 suffers from lack of push against hard head winds. I encountered one last summer where I could not get above about 73 in 4th gear, and lost speed in 5th. Gas mileage went into the toilet too, only about 17 mpg for that stretch.

If you keep a sharp eye out you can probably find a near new 2014 RT for a great price. There are a couple of RT-S here on the board that you may be able to drive a good bargain on. I just bought a 2014 RT-S with only 645 miles on the clock for $18,000. It has no add-ons. Check Craigslist every few days. The really hot buys don't last.
 
JOKING

Boy u are sensitive with a joke.

Hate to see if someone questioned u. No sense of humor

I quess i apologize:dontknow: yikes[/QUOTE ...Learn how to write a joke and I will laugh.....This :lecturef_smilie: is not the joke emoticon.....this :roflblack: or :ohyea:or :yes:might be considered as a thing said in " jest " .......and apology accepted ....Mike :thumbup:
 
..WTF...this is the kind of crap that caused me to stay off the board the last time...Joe is a big boy and can stand up for Himself, I'm sure. So why don't you mind your own business, instead of trying to start trouble. Since this is a family oriented board I'll just leave it at :cus: :cus: :cus: :cus: :cus:......

Boy u are sensitive with a joke.

Hate to see if someone questioned u. No sense of humor

I quess i apologize:dontknow: yikes[/QUOTE ...Learn how to write a joke and I will laugh.....This :lecturef_smilie: is not the joke emoticon.....this :roflblack: or :ohyea:or :yes:might be considered as a thing said in " jest " .......and apology accepted ....Mike :thumbup:


Chill out. (no emoticons)

Cruzr Joe
 
Wow, what a great response. It will take a while to learn how to use this forum and respond to all of you. I have been on the Viragotech forum for years and it was great also.

We did test drive a 2015 rts at Imotorsports in Elmhurst, Il. They were great. I would like to try a 2013 or older but I'm really leaning towards a 2014 or newer. They do rent them for a day but not in the winter. We plan on renting one in the spring if we don't buy one first.

Yeah, Karen had here 2nd spine fusion in April and is doing great. The Dr says it shouldn't be a problem to ride again but we are waiting a while. We just won't be riding a 2 wheeler.

Well I don't have 4 knees but I have had 2 surgeries on both and one rotator cuff surgery but unfortunately it tore again and the other should is torn also. I guess I haven't taken too good of care of myself over the years. Thought I was indestructible.

Thanks everyone, I will be around asking ?'s. We are really getting a little hyped already since we didn't get to ride this summer at all.

Thanks, Mike
 
Love my 2014 RT SE6

First please don't judge this forum by those that are arguing like children on this post. This is a very good site for information and you will learn to ignore some posts as they are not worth the time and effort to get involved in. Come On Guys. Grow some and don't get your panties in a knot.

Second: I had a 2011 RTL and loved it. I traded up to the 2014 RTL SE6 and have loved it even more than the first one. Didn't think I would ever say that but I guess I also love my second wife more than my first so I should have expected it. I also had a heel/toe shifter cruiser and it took all of one day to appreciate the paddle shifter and semi-automatic transmission of the RTL. Love them both. I also really like the heated grips but I can't speak about the seat as I haven't gone that direction, yet. My wife also has bad knees and is sensitive to suspension and since we transitioned to the Spyder from the motorcycle she can ride all day with no complaints.

Welcome to SpyderLovers and the Spyder Ryding World. The 2014 and newer is definitely worth the extra money. Its an investment in your comfort and experience.
 
I figured you would certainly get some good replies to your questions, but it seems things have gotten a bit carried away. That happens, and usually smooths over, but, I wasn't going to reply here, as I felt there were much more experience folks that would help you out. Anyway, here's my story and I'm sticking to it: I'm an old guy, and have been riding a long time. (76 and riding since 58) I've done some racing, and have ridden most brands and types of motorcycles, and now ride a 2015 Spyder RT Limited, by choice, but that could be argued if you push the right buttons. I enjoy the RT (and so does my wife) more than I did my Harleys (more than a couple since I started riding them in 75) My Spyder is a Trike, and it took me 5 weeks to learn how to ride in NOT like a motorcycle. Yep, I'm stubborn! It's very smooth going down the road, has plenty of power to do most of what ever it is you want to do, is quiet, and give decent gas mileage. It has all the bells and whistles that my Harley Ultra Classic had, but it more comfortable for both of us, sometimes we are still amazed at it even after the 8 weeks and 3,400 miles we've had it, and as long as we can keep the speed over 45 mph we don't get wet in a pouring rain. And, now that I am learning to ride it like a trike, I have to say, its a lot of fun, and will go around a corner pretty damn fast, if you want it to.

If you have any specific questions, ask them directly. When you just ask for opinions, those are sometimes confusing, and hard to describe.

Until later,
David
 
First please don't judge this forum by those that are arguing like children on this post. This is a very good site for information and you will learn to ignore some posts as they are not worth the time and effort to get involved in. Come On Guys. Grow some and don't get your panties in a knot.

Second: I had a 2011 RTL and loved it. I traded up to the 2014 RTL SE6 and have loved it even more than the first one. Didn't think I would ever say that but I guess I also love my second wife more than my first so I should have expected it. I also had a heel/toe shifter cruiser and it took all of one day to appreciate the paddle shifter and semi-automatic transmission of the RTL. Love them both. I also really like the heated grips but I can't speak about the seat as I haven't gone that direction, yet. My wife also has bad knees and is sensitive to suspension and since we transitioned to the Spyder from the motorcycle she can ride all day with no complaints.

Welcome to SpyderLovers and the Spyder Ryding World. The 2014 and newer is definitely worth the extra money. Its an investment in your comfort and experience.

This is the only person arguing like a child in this thread, if i missed another person acting like a "Child" would you be so kind as to point him/her out. (see Below).

..WTF...this is the kind of crap that caused me to stay off the board the last time...Joe is a big boy and can stand up for Himself, I'm sure. So why don't you mind your own business, instead of trying to start trouble. Since this is a family oriented board I'll just leave it at :cus::cus::cus::cus::cus:......

Cruzr Joe
 
One Newbie to Another

The people on this site have been fantastic to a newbie like me. I was very skeptical switching from HD to a Spyder. After visiting this site, I'm glad I did and can't wait to meet many of them in person. I never found an HD site with this much camaraderie.
 
I had a 2013 (998)RTL and now have a 2015 (1330)RTL. As far as I am concerned the 2015 is a much better machine.
The 1330 with the 6 speed trans runs smoother, handles better and I feel it is more comfortable than the 998. As a matter of fact my wife was so comfortable she almost fell asleep, I wonder if they sell Bungee cords for Spyders, I told her that was the next step if he falls asleep.

Check out the specs on the different Spyders. Regardless of which one you get you will not be sorry and neither will your wife.

BTW the heated grips are great.
 
:shocked: How about if we get a round of Snickers Bars for everybody?? :D

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After rereading the original post, I realize that there were some specific questions asked that I didn't address so I thought this morning I wouold add to what I posted last night. Let's see if I can do better:

Paddle shifters vs manual shifting. I feature that I seem to enjoy greatly. Manual shifting, you have no choice, you have to shift, up and down, or you aren't going anywhere. The semi-automatic with paddle shifters, GREAT. You have to shift up, and you can shift at 2,500 rpm in a lazy sort of way, or you can hang onto your hat and pore the coals to it and shift at 7 or 8 thousand rpm while banging thru the gears, your choice. I must say it's nice not having to shift down and let the computer do it, but you can down shift just like your manual tranny if you want to. And a big plus, when you come to a stop, you don't put your foot down and take the chance of getting your pants cuff caught on your foot peg. And we all know what happens next.

As to the comparison between the 990 and 1330, I really can't say as I am a new owner (2 months) of my Spyder, but from what I've learned in this short period, buying a new 2014/2015 model with the 1330 motor was the right choice. Smoother, quitter, cooler running, better gas mileage, less maintenance, it's all good.

Ok, older vs newer. As above, I singled out the 2014/2015 model years because as it seems to me, Can Am has taken what they have learned since coming out with the first Spyder, and steadily improved on the design. Listened to their customers and upgraded every year. Adding features and correcting problems. Maybe not as fast as some would like, but actually doing a pretty good job of it. Since I have a 2015 RT Limited, that is all I can actually talk about, or compare to. I like it much better than most motorcycles I've had, and since I try to ignore my 76 years, still tend to ride aggressively, so have to say, my 1966 Triump was more impressive, as was my 1975 Kawasaki 900 (not counting the 750 cc Kawasaki triple). My V-Max (the first one on the streets of Jacksonville) has to be one of the best all around motorcycles I've had, and the best has to be my Ducati ST4, although my last Harley (2010 Ultra Classic with some additions) was pretty close. This Spyder is very very good, and has all of the features that my Ultra Classic had plus, it has reverse that is power off the motor, not the starter, and I can back it out of the garage very easy, and not have to worry about holding it up while I make a turn while backing.

One last thing and then I'm done, wife wanting to ride. As I said, I've been riding since 1958, got my first bike in 1962, so it has been a while. I got married in 1975, (damn, that's almost 41 years, unbelievable that she has put up with me for so long) and gave her her first motorcycle ride. Anyway, I have tried, all this time, to get he r to learn how to drive a motorcycle, if only for the reason of being able to get us home if something happened to me. With no luck. She had no desire to learn how to drive a motorcycle, and went out of her way to prove that. But, she has now driven the Spyder 3 times, twice down our road (1/2 mile) and into the yard to the garage, and the last time she drove from the highway to the garage, which is close to 2 and 1/2 miles with some of it up to 45 mph. And, I have to say I am very proud of her for this, it was her idea. After the last ride she looked at me sweetly and said, "you know, if I decide I like this enough, you might have to see the bass boat so I can have my own Spyder".

I hope I've helped in answering your questions, and hope you have a Very Merry Christmas. But the Spyder, spend as much as you can afford, but you will spend more on accessories you learn about and can't live with out, Be patient, and learn to ride it as a trike, because that is where the beautiy is. Folks will drive by and smile, give you thumbs up, and tell you how cool it is. It's a wonderful situation.

David
 
You're a lucky Man; my Missus is still showing little interest in taking the front seat... :opps:

The "Princess" does take the front seat on occasion. She rode her Dyna Low Rider 20,000 miles but can't get her to buy a second Spyder. Oh well just glad she occasionally rides with me now.

Jack
 
wmh9680, the 998 V-twin is a fine engine and my 2013 RT has been quite a fine ride. But I opted to move up to the 1330 ACE for a few reasons. As has been mentioned the 1330 is a slower turning engine with a lot more torque. It also gets much better gas mileage. I haven't had a chance to ride my '14 RT yet so I don't have a personal comparison to offer. I rode a demo 2015 RT at Spyderfest last spring on about a 1/2 hour ride. Based on that ride I say the 1330 is on par with the Goldwing out on the highway.

What kind of riding do you like to do, easy rides on secondary roads, or a fair amount of hauling a** on an Interstate? If the former the 998 engine will serve you well. But I'm on the Interstate quite a bit and I found the 998 to be lacking on top end oomph. It's slow passing semis at 70 mph + on the Interstate, especially if you have a head wind. The 998 suffers from lack of push against hard head winds. I encountered one last summer where I could not get above about 73 in 4th gear, and lost speed in 5th. Gas mileage went into the toilet too, only about 17 mpg for that stretch.
:agree: I have a 2013 RTL with a 998 engine, and while I have no real desire to trade up to a 1330 I completely agree with your observations. I noticed the lack of oomph on the Interstates last year on my trek to SpyderQuest. But I so seldom go above 70, that I wouldn't trade mine in for that reason alone. And now, after all the heat issues have been resolved and after I've sunk so much money making the RTL mine (see mods link in signature below), I can't think of any reason to trade it in at all. But that's just me. ;)
 
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