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Newbie question

Rar

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I've had my motorcycle license 2 weeks tomorrow and my Spyder about 10 days. I passed my MSF course with a 2 wheeler. I have a question about entering curves.

My MSF course instructs to look through the curve. Is it the same with a Spyder?

I know - dumb question. Any tips?
 
Looking through the curve is a good idea.

I use the apex method of entering curves. Enter from the inside of the curve and track towards the outside as you round the curve. I also plant my outside foot down on the footpeg. Some also suggest gripping the tank with the knees.

This all seems to help lessen the g forces.
 
Curves

I've had my motorcycle license 2 weeks tomorrow and my Spyder about 10 days. I passed my MSF course with a 2 wheeler. I have a question about entering curves.

My MSF course instructs to look through the curve. Is it the same with a Spyder?

I know - dumb question. Any tips?

Go at it slow......especially being new. It's very easy (not being use to the spyder) to end up with the front wheel on, or over the yellow stripe. Just a suggestion. Not telling you how to ride.
 
Looking through the curve is a good idea no matter what you are driving. The MSF course teaches you things that work regardless of what you are driving.
 
Looking through the curve is a good idea no matter what you are driving. The MSF course teaches you things that work regardless of what you are driving.

My BF is an MSF insructor. He read through my manual, and most of the riding practice stuff is MSF. Here's what I have learned.

Look through the curve - nojoke
Keep your eyes up - :yikes:
Lean forward and into the curve - put your "nose over your knuckles" :rolleyes:
Push with your outside foot on the peg - :spyder2:
Smile - stop clenching you teeth! :helpsmilie:
 
I am trying to look through the curves and it does help. I don't have a problem with parking lots and situations at very low speeds. My trauma comes with the traffic pressers behind me and I have a curve coming up with a posted speed limit of 55. Not crossing the line - probably because I've reduced my speed.
 
I am trying to look through the curves and it does help. I don't have a problem with parking lots and situations at very low speeds. My trauma comes with the traffic pressers behind me and I have a curve coming up with a posted speed limit of 55. Not crossing the line - probably because I've reduced my speed.

Rar, if the posted limit for the corner is 55 the Spyder could take it at 60 easy. Chin to knuckle and hang half a butt off the seat in what ever direction the curve is. Just lowering your head 10-12 inches, leaning over and shifting your weight makes a huge difference.

Try it on some slow curves and you will soon get the feel of when you need to lean and shift weight harder. Take it slow and gain confidence. IGNORE THE TRAFFIC PRESSERS! Everyone is in too much of a hurry nowadays anyway.

Also, anytime I have had an issue with a certain turn or situation , I will go out at the crack of dawn on a Saturday and ride through it many times with no one else around. That way I know what I can do and can't do in traffic.

CAC
 
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@ CanAm Chris: I sure the Spyder can take the curves easily. The problem is me. I will have to do some gentler curves on a lesser travelled road to practice the butt shifting. Presently, I can't picture it. :( Makes sense though. I'll try it. Thanks.
 
Looks like you've gotten a lot of great advice. When I first started riding, I took the curves a bit slower and did track the curve as well. I took the MSF course (another story) and learned a lot. I just ignore the 'traffic pressers' and if I'm going too slow, they can go around me! Take it slow, ryde safe and enjoy!

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we've only had our bike a few months now, but almost 6000 miles. :yes: can't tell we love it, can ya? nojoke i'm finding out that corners i first took at 35 mph are now 50 mile per hour curves. as you put on miles you will find out what a safe machine the :spyder2: really is. take it slow and enjoy the ride. time will make you more confident! meanwhile drive safe and have a lotta fun!!!
 
Rar, if the posted limit for the corner is 55 the Spyder could take it at 60 easy. Chin to knuckle and hang half a butt off the seat in what ever direction the curve is. Just lowering your head 10-12 inches, leaning over and shifting your weight makes a huge difference.

Try it on some slow curves and you will soon get the feel of when you need to lean and shift weight harder. Take it slow and gain confidence. IGNORE THE TRAFFIC PRESSERS! Everyone is in too much of a hurry nowadays anyway.

Also, anytime I have had an issue with a certain turn or situation , I will go out at the crack of dawn on a Saturday and ride through it many times with no one else around. That way I know what I can do and can't do in traffic.

CAC

EXCELLENT ADVICE!! (1ST PARAGRAPH) THIS IS WHAT I DO AND THE RIDE IS GREAT. I'VE NEVER PRESSED MY KNEES AGAINST THE BIKE AS SOME RIDERS HAVE MENTIONED. I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE FOR AN UNCOMFORTABLE RIDE. THE MORE YOU RIDE, THE MORE COMFORTABLE YOU WILL BECOME. ENJOY YOUR SPYDER. :yes::yes:
 
Any snowmobile or ATV experience should help greatly as the riding styles are similar.

Never been on a horse, but I'd even think that gripping the tank with your knees might be similar to gripping the saddle with your knees? I could be wrong.
 
All have posted good advise. The spyder's tendancy is to throw you towards the outside of the curve. Choose an entry speed your're comfortable with, grip the tank with your knees, look thru and lean into the curve. Just remember don't ride any faster than your experience level. You will be able build up your cornering speed over time. Dale
 
Rar,
:agree:
You've gotten great advice on how to get around a curve with your Spyder. My advice is to simply take it nice and easy until you're ready for ramping up the speeds at which you're ryding... Gain your own confidence first! :thumbup:
Now good luck and go log some miles and smiles! :welcome:
 
RAR - you will be surprised how comfortable you are with taking curves at speed once you get used to your Spyder and get some miles under your wheels. That's great that you took the MSF course. Although I have been riding since high school (I'm 59 now) I took the beginner's course several years ago and learned a lot about defensive driving. A year later I took the experienced MSF course. That is excellent training and it's sad that so many riders avoid it.

I found that in curves if I press my inside knee against the tank (right turn, right knee) and push the hand grip with my outside hand (right turn, left hand) it helps transfer center of gravity down and stabilizes the bike a bit. As some of the other posters said the Spyder is very stable and you will find yourself taking curves faster than you would think of now. It is one very impressive bike.
 
Thank you all for your most superb suggestions and encouragement. Out for more practice today. :D
 
Looking through the curve is a good idea.

I use the apex method of entering curves. Enter from the inside of the curve and track towards the outside as you round the curve. I also plant my outside foot down on the footpeg. Some also suggest gripping the tank with the knees.

This all seems to help lessen the g forces.
I don't know why but something sounds wrong with that as it sounds like that would make the curve sharper to me. I track from the outside of the curve to the inside of the curve in the middle of the curve and back to the outside of the curve in effect flattening out the curve. Kind of as in the very poor drawing....
curve tracking.jpg
 
I don't know why but something sounds wrong with that as it sounds like that would make the curve sharper to me. I track from the outside of the curve to the inside of the curve in the middle of the curve and back to the outside of the curve in effect flattening out the curve. Kind of as in the very poor drawing....
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I think the original comment would have applied for someone on the illustration you provided going the other direction (other lane) from your red line. That would allow you to further look through the turn at what is coming at you in the lane you put the red line on.
 
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