Newbe looking for some help on RT limited handling

[AppleSpyder]

Just a thought but there is the Red Rocks Spyder Rally in St George the 27th - 30th of this month in St. George, UT. Ann and Joe from Squared Away (SpyderLovers sponsor) will be there. You could contact them and to see if they might be able to do a lazer alignment for you. Like I said I don't know just an idea.

 

[Judge64]

$250 for the alignment is too much money. And if they did not check your alignment with the ROLO laser alignment system then they are just guessing. Improper tire wear is a sure sign of misalignment. But no evidence of improper tire wear is not a sure sign of proper alignment. Find a vendor with a reasonable price for this and get it done. You will probably surprised at the results. And, if your dealer is right and you are in spec. Most of the ROLO people won't charge you for the service.

Thanks for the feedback.....

So what is a fair price for a laser alignment?

My dealer quoted me $250. I also paid $400 for the 3000 mile service.

My dealer is the closest listed for ROLO on spydercomfort.com. Can anyone who offers laser alignment so the Spyder if they have the specs?


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[jaherbst]

Thanks for the feedback.....

So what is a fair price for a laser alignment?

My dealer quoted me $250. I also paid $400 for the 3000 mile service.

My dealer is the closest listed for ROLO on spydercomfort.com. Can anyone who offers laser alignment so the Spyder if they have the specs?


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$125-135

​Jack

 

[Cruzr Joe]

I think we have a Goldielocks process going here. 11 psi is way too low. 25 psi is too high. Try between 18 and 20 psi and try to get the same pressure in both tires as much as possible.

Hope things improve for you.

:agree::agree:

Cruzr Joe

 

[murphybrown]

Squared Away Squared Away Squared Away

We're in northern Utah. I checked the air in the tires, they were at 11 psi. I added air to 25 psi. My son will come over next week and take it for a spin.

My wife in new to riding herself. I just want to make sure that she is safe and feels comfortable on the bike.

should I start with an alignment? Not sure in anyone in Utah does it? Order the Baja Ron sway bar, or change out the front shocks?

I understand that it doesn't ride like a two wheeler. I've riden two wheelers, 3 wheelers, 4 wheelers, snowmobiles, you get the idea. Her Spyder felt like it wanted to wander when I was going over 50 on a strait road. I was just me alone.

Thanks for y'alls help!

You are in luck. the absolute best folks for doing the ROLO system (none other compare) are Ann and Joe Meyer of Squared Away. AND they are going to be in St. George for the Red Rock Rally. Contact them thru a PM or call them direct and get scheduled to get Squared Away. They could (if time permits) also install the BajaRon sway bar with helm links. Their home is in Las Vegas...just a nice ryde. 25 psi seems a little high for the front tires..I run 19...again personal choice and what works best for you.

 

[tehrlich]

LOL. Don't replace the shocks?

When I replaced the stock shocks with the Fox shocks, the lack of quality of the stock shocks were easily seen. I could compress them down easily. They are EXTREMELY soft, and just stiffening the spring is just 1/2 the story. You gotta think about rebound, too.

So when racing cars, 4x4's, motorcycles, motorhomes, etc., replace their shocks for better performance, it only applies to them, not a Spyder?? That doesn't even make sense. A shock does a LOT for stability and performance. Anyone that has raced any mechanical device knows that the suspension can be everything.

Replace the stock shocks, or at least by stiffeners for them.

 

[Bob Denman]

Did you read the part about his being his Wife's Spyder? :dontknow:
Changing shocks, tires, anti-swaybars... If you're looking for that last extra little bit of performance: maybe!
Some folks couldn't care less where the limits are. nojoke

 

[Cmpdman]

Thanks for the input. I'll be out of town that week so I won't be able to make it to St George in southern Utah. Maybe later in the year I can take it to Vegas to get an alignment. This is my wife's & I want to be safe on the machine.

I changed the shocks on my snowmobiles but my wife likes hers stock. Says she really can't tell the difference. I'm not too familiar with the stock front shocks on the Spyder. She's close to 100 lbs & I'm not sure if they are adjustable.

I'll order the Baja Ron sway bar. It seems a lot of riders can really tell the difference. We live realy close to several mountain roads that are beautiful drives, but lots of twists and turns. Again, safety is my first concern!

 

[tehrlich]

Did you read the part about his being his Wife's Spyder? :dontknow:
Changing shocks, tires, anti-swaybars... If you're looking for that last extra little bit of performance: maybe!
Some folks couldn't care less where the limits are. nojoke

Yes, I did. Did you read the comments that said upgraded shocks don't do much and are too expensive?

For a 100 lb person, the stock shocks are probably OK, but the problem was instability over 50mph, I believe. Please tell me that upgrading the suspension shocks would have no impact on this, even for that "last extra little bit of performance!"

I have the RJ antisway bar. It is awesome. Totally should get it, but my shocks upgrade was a bigger impact on stability and control especially at higher speeds.

 

[dlby]

20 # in both is pretty good

Im an x HD rider

It was 2k miles b4 theSpyder felt right

Big adaptive learning curve

Now its smooth as silk

Btw
Inever changed out anything
Its actually a pretty good stock built bike except for $%# seat

I love R&R put another dime in the jukebox baby!

 

[amelectricdavid]

Ur wife is bigger than sons bike....its like putting a 4by8 plywood on the front....its tracking 3 different line ...it move anytime a wheel pics up something different. ...i have stock 2014 rts.....i over inflated tire by 5 to 10 lbs...mine were also low....so much for dealer service ck up..laser alignment is a scam....they have been using focused light beam on alignment front end machines for 30 years....laser alignment is just like a titanium golf ....in my opinion anyway when i add air. It handled better....u also have to remember this machine has a high performance steering system...so if u watch a races car drive steering wheel...its always move and changing as he is still going straight. ..so...thats my thots

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[al0vely]

It sounds like ...

It sounds like the adjustments are being made to the HD rider satisfaction and not the intended primary rider.

I wonder how the wife feels about the ride? How many miles does she have on the :ani29:?

In many threads you read ... it takes a few miles before you are totally comfortable with the ride as a new rider.

As a female rider and not one to ride overly aggressive the tracking would be more important than the sway bar. But again how does the primary rider feel?

 

[Gray Ghost]

..laser alignment is a scam....they have been using focused light beam on alignment front end machines for 30 years....laser alignment is just like a titanium golf ....in my opinion anyway when i add air. It handled better....u also have to remember this machine has a high performance steering system...so if u watch a races car drive steering wheel...its always move and changing as he is still going straight. ..so...thats my thots...

Would you consider a bike that has one front tire with 1/8th of an inch toe in and the other 1 inch toe out to be properly aligned? Or a bike that is toe out on both sides? Those are the kind of things you see when using the system you call a scam. The ROLO alignment system was modified from an alignment system that is used to align cars for NASCAR. And it will take a bike that is otherwise in good shape but wanders all over the place and make it a dream ride. On a properly aligned Spyder on a flat level road you can lift your hands off the bars and it will continue to run straight, none of the "...always move and changing as he is still going straight..."

 

[amelectricdavid]

I didnt mean laser alignment didnt work...but that it is the same as old system....they just put the word laser in front of it....focused beam of lite

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[Gray Ghost]

I didnt mean laser alignment didnt work...but that it is the same as old system....they just put the word laser in front of it....focused beam of lite

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The old BRP system set the front wheels to reference the frame, the results are bad. The ROLO system uses lasers, but it references the front wheels to the rear. You can do an old school measure across the front and rear of the front tires to get a toe-in or toe-out but you will be missing the most critical part which is the relationship to the rear wheel. It is fairly obvious that you haven't seen and really don't know what the ROLO system does. If you are ever around a rally or an independent dealer go by and check it out. Typically they will let you look at how your bike is set now and explain to you what they recommend to get you straightened out if necessary. Then it is up to you whether to go forward with that or not (again, can't guarantee that it is all of them, but most if not all follow that). Check out Spydercomfort.com/dealers. The independents are the ones that are usually willing to work with you and any skepticism you might have.