New Tire

[thehawk]

I have read these types of discussions for almost a year. And I've avoided entering into them for fear my comments would be misconstrued on a spectrum from egotistical to just being a smart-alec. But here, in a nutshell, is my opinion: I trust the engineers who chose the design parameters and operational characteristics of my Spyder ... and the materials used in its construction. When I turn the key and drive away, I want to know that I have done nothing that alters that design or changes those characteristics in such a way that I have to compensate for any decisions, choices or trade-offs they made when the inevitable crisis occurs.

Botton line ... I will stay with OEM parts and supplies for things which fall within those categories.

thehawk

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

JUST TO CLARIFY THINGS A BIT

Scotty, the post you are quoting is not POSTED it was removed, apparently not before you saw it and for that I apologize. Regular/ordinary passenger car tires are not Race tires and I do not recommend them for street use and have never suggested it nor have I ever suggested using solid rubber tires that would be really really stupid and to even suggest using them says a great deal about the "suggestor".....I am not trying to stick my finger in anyone's eye.....But face facts there are many many people here who are using car tires instead of the Kenda's, are they/we all STUPID,....If you really believe BRP is using Kenda tires because they are the best tire made ...well good luck with that one........:thumbup:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

ENGINEERS

Mr. Hawk, the genius engineers who designed the Spyder put the rear tire valve on the left side of the wheel where it is pretty much inaccessible, or in the very least difficult to use...So since you appear to be sooooo happy with their work, could you give me a good or reasonable reason why they didn't put it on the other ( right ) side of the wheel...I anxiously await you're answer on this....Mike..:thumbup:

 

[NancysToy]

If you really believe BRP is using Kenda tires because they are the best tire made ...well good luck with that one........:thumbup:

I certainly have not said anything even remotely resembling that. My post was made to indicate that I felt that the Kenda tire was adequate for my needs, and had provided satisfactory life. I also posted that there are other choices, but that they must be carefully made. Some people have substituted car tires with a much lower speed rating, for instance, which is not a good idea. The tire must fit the needs of the vehicle and its capabilities and use. The Kenda does so, as do others. Fork lift tires would not be good. An LT tire with a high load rating wouldn't, either, nor a snow tire, race tire, etc, etc. All tire choices off the race track are compromises. Our choices are made based on our needs, balancing the various characteristics as we see fit. You should not have a problem with anyone who chooses the Kenda, anymore that we should have a problem with your particular choice. I'm not sure why you feel so strongly about this subject, but it is obvious you do. Different strokes for different folks...ease up a bit and we will all benefit from the exchange of ideas.

 

[Sarge707]

I have read these types of discussions for almost a year. And I've avoided entering into them for fear my comments would be misconstrued on a spectrum from egotistical to just being a smart-alec. But here, in a nutshell, is my opinion: I trust the engineers who chose the design parameters and operational characteristics of my Spyder ... and the materials used in its construction. When I turn the key and drive away, I want to know that I have done nothing that alters that design or changes those characteristics in such a way that I have to compensate for any decisions, choices or trade-offs they made when the inevitable crisis occurs.

Botton line ... I will stay with OEM parts and supplies for things which fall within those categories.

thehawk

:agree: 100% With the tires because it Could have imput into the Bosch Systems and I won,t take that chance because I feel I drive aggresively. nojoke Now OIL is another can of Worms?:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

 

[clueless]

Mileage is not the reason why I switched to a passenger tire, as I have posted before the single biggest improvement with handling that I have made was when I changed from the Kenda to a passenger tire. When I would come up on a tractor trailer on the interstate I would get a lot of wiggle from the Spyder and in/out sway going around curves. When I changed to the passenger tire the wiggle was reduced significantly and the rear end dip when going over bumps or dips in the road. At Spyderfest I had a set of Elkas put on my Spyder and it did improve the smoothness of the road, but unlike some I definitely would not say that it was like having a new bike. I have a 2010 RT-S and had put on the 2011 shocks prior to putting on the Elkas, so I have went through a progression of changes on the Spyder, passenger tire on the rear then 2011 shocks then Elkas. My sentiments are echoed by the wife being a passenger on the back of the bike and rider. The other thing of course that most of us see on our 2010s (I can't speak for the later model year Spyders) is the in/out going around curves with our Spyders. As said above with the progression of changes that I have made the tire being the first change that was made and the cheapest by far gave me the biggest change and eliminated the in/out, the 2011 shocks help to reduce the front end dive, and the elkas all but eliminated the front end dive.
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I found running slightly higher rear tire pressure firmed up the rear. and now the elka shocks in the rear settled down the (increased) dampening over bumps. no more oscilations when going over bumps in the rear. makes running over patched pot holes fun again (well tolerable).

have a new Kendra rear in garage waiting for OEM 1st rear to need replacement. have 10,000 miles and still some tread left. purchased Kendra ahead of time for less during dealer annual sale this spring

@Scotty = did you say your dealer could NOT mount and OEM tire to your spyder? how small of a dealer are they?

 

[NancysToy]

@Scotty = did you say your dealer could NOT mount and OEM tire to your spyder? how small of a dealer are they?

They are not really small, although they mix in boats, bikes, and atvs. They sell a lot of Spyders, and have since the beginning. Their biggest problem is no space for a tire machine (or paint booth) and a township that won't let them build another building without adding another parking lot. BTW, I have never seen their lot full. I did not check with other dealers, just the closest one, that I generally do business with.

A number of Spyder dealers are either unable to mount tires, or don't have the means of balancing them. A number of automotive dealers either cannot or will not. Owners should do some research before they get to the point of needing a tire, just so they know who to see. The sad part about my situation is that I asked about tires beforew we even bought our first Spyder four+ years ago, and was assured they could do the job.....not.

 

[Sarge707]

Depends on the dealer- My dealer sells a Lot of ALL Brp products and got the tire mounting machine recently BUT they explained its another $6,000 to get a balancing machine and I,m not sure how ,many dealers are willing or able to cover the added expense in todays economy.

 

[NancysToy]

Depends on the dealer- My dealer sells a Lot of ALL Brp products and got the tire mounting machine recently BUT they explained its another $6,000 to get a balancing machine and I,m not sure how ,many dealers are willing or able to cover the added expense in todays economy.

That's the same number I heard on the balancing machine...more with a large variety of mandrels to fitt all makes of bikes.

 

[Dudley]

One can get a "Balancing Machine" for less than $50. It's called Ride On. Perfect balance without weights.

 

[Black Pig]

I know this is an old thread but, I didn't see the point in creating a new one to ask the same questions.

2 things, what is 'Ride On' as alluded to in the above post? AND.. has anyone any experience with toyo tyres on the Spyder, I can't seem to get the Kumho ones (which I really fancied) over here, so I'm stuck with stock or Toyo or a certain type of Falken ones, but I exclude them as they are too cheap to be any good.

Bearing in mind this is Scotland and it rains 90% of the time.

I could with stock again but they really are rubbish in the wet.

 

[retiredsquid]

I have an appointment with my dealer to replace my rear tire on Thursday. I'll remember to ask them to check the bearings, etc. I think they will only use OEM tires.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

BALANCING MACHINES

One can get a "Balancing Machine" for less than $50. It's called Ride On. Perfect balance without weights.

One can can also get a "Balancing Machine" from Harbor Freight $ 55 works great.......Also the old bubble balancer works fine for the rear wheel if you can find one..............any car shop can do the fronts....Mike

 

[Ga Blue Knight]

Are you sayin' that I'm fat?? :roflblack: (ZE912)
Anyway; fat people are perceived as being jolly... :thumbup:

We fat folks are not fat just fluffy.