New temp gauge with bar readings

[BRPjunkie]

Not at all Bro. None of the gauges I've had on there are considered "waterproof" but they all did fine in the rain. These may or may not be alright but I could seal them up pretty easy if I needed to.



This temp gauge will read 1 degree at a time.

I realize that, but I recall a photo of your original analog guage reading about 210 at five bars and the new one is showing 197.

 

[spyderwoman]

can anyone tell me what this fault code is?

my husband just checked my bike's temp. mine ran the same about 179 at 4 bars, 164 at 3 bars, anyway my husband installed a manual switch for me to turn on the fan at 4 bars instead of waiting until the 5 bars. (because mine went into limp mode too quick while in traffic saturday went from 4 to 8 bars in no time) but now my check engine light won't go off! it is showing a fault code of 0 P0480. does anyone have the fault codes and could you look this up for me? i saw someone post on here a week or two ago saying he could check the codes. do you think this has anything to do with the manual switch being installed or a new issue altogether?

 

[rleathen]

As per the shop manual an error code of P0480 is as follows:

Involved Module: ECM
Description: Radiator fan relay shorted to battery +
Cause: damaged fan, relay, damaged circuit wires, damaged connector or damaged ECM output pins
Service Action: Disconnect radiator fan. measure voltage between harness connector 1-FB-C10 and ground (Expected value: 0 volts). Measure resistance between terminals 85 and 86 on relay (Expected value: 70 to 90 ohms)


Since I believe I was one of the first few to install a manual override switch http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12160 I would suggest that the wiring of your override switch has in all liklihood caused the problem. Just how did the manual override switch actually get wired in ??

 

[spyderwoman]

oops!

he wired it straight to the fan plug at the bottom of the radiator fan. the relay and circuit was not even in the system and thats probably what triggered it...the relay was not plugged in. he had to put the relay back in to clear the check engine light. thanks for being so quick on explaining the code! you guys are so helpful i really do appreciate all of you techies!:bowdown:

 

[rleathen]

I assume that the removal of the fan relay and failure to reinstall it was just an oversight. I would not ever suggest leaving the relay unplugged not for the very fact that the computer will complain but also I would not want to ever rely solely on me to turn the fan on with the switch. I am too busy enjoying the ride to have to continually monitor the temperature, the relay is a fail safe to the override switch.

 

[WaltH]

Does anyone know at what temperature the thermostat opens? I have been assuming it must be around three bars, but now that doesn't seem right.

 

[rnet]

Anyone know how hot it has to get before hitting "limp mode"
I have heard of a few Spyders going into limp mode sitting in traffic on hot days. What temp or how many bars are showing :dontknow:

I can't answer this, but mine went into limp mode riding through lake george during americade and my dealer tould me that it got up to 236. (info stored in the computer and retrieved with buds.)

 

[NancysToy]

Does anyone know at what temperature the thermostat opens? I have been assuming it must be around three bars, but now that doesn't seem right.

167 degreees F, according to the service manual.

 

[BRPjunkie]

167 degreees F, according to the service manual.

Does the service manual have a list of temperatures for the bars? Lamonster's new readings and others who have checked are showing four bars at 175 - 180 degrees and five bars at 190 - 200. Some of us have been assuming the post by Ken (Evoluzione) was correct. That has one bar = 153, two bars = 171, three bars = 163, four bars = 207, five bars = 223, six bars = 230 and seven bars = 237. As stated in the start of this thread, maybe the Spyder runs cooler than we thought. :dontknow:

 

[BillGargan]

It strikes me to wonder . . . I believe that the cooling system in a car engine has a central objective of keeping the car in a narrow range of temperatures to allow it to operate at high efficiency.

I know nothing about these type of engines -- but, the range of temperatures that this demonstrates is rather extreme in my mind's eye.

Is this type of engine designed to operate across a wider range of temperatures than car engines?

 

[BajaRon]

I don't know, was I suppose to time it? :dontknow:

Well, yeah!

 

[NancysToy]

Does the service manual have a list of temperatures for the bars? Lamonster's new readings and others who have checked are showing four bars at 175 - 180 degrees and five bars at 190 - 200. Some of us have been assuming the post by Ken (Evoluzione) was correct. That has one bar = 153, two bars = 171, three bars = 183, four bars = 207, five bars = 223, six bars = 230 and seven bars = 237. As stated in the start of this thread, maybe the Spyder runs cooler than we thought. :dontknow:

No list in the manual. These types of gauges are always approximate, so they will not read the same from bike to bike. I have always thought Ken's numbers were high, given that the thermostat obviously opens somewhere around 3 bars, and that temp is 167 degrees if the thermostat is up to snuff. On other bikes with this type of gauge I figure normal is about half the gauge, plus or minus a bar or two.

It strikes me to wonder . . . I believe that the cooling system in a car engine has a central objective of keeping the car in a narrow range of temperatures to allow it to operate at high efficiency.

I know nothing about these type of engines -- but, the range of temperatures that this demonstrates is rather extreme in my mind's eye.

Is this type of engine designed to operate across a wider range of temperatures than car engines?

Motorcycle engines, even water-cooled versions do run at a wider range of temperatures than an automobile engine. These are not extreme, IMO.