New Recall Gas Cap Did Not Fix Gas SMell

[cjackg]

Canister Molotov Cocktail ?

I received the new fuel cap and started using it today, but it did not fix my problem. Still getting a gas drip after every hot shutdown.
Canister and valve was replaced by my dealer 4 months ago.

Is closing off the canister vent hose (underneath the RT) a workable solution? Either pinching it, or put a plug in it...?

Never got any comments here, but talking to Doc Riverside got me some clear warnings this would close the venting for the tank and is definitely not advisable!

So now I am experimenting with a new solution to end the gas drip... to be continued soon...

 

[Bob Ledford]

update. 2013,01,27

Boy was I ever excited when the new gas cap arrived in the USPO mail 12 Jan 2013. I ripped the box open with great glee. Took the new and the old and compared them then installed the new one . I was taken by surprise at how much more twisting torque it took for the new one to hit the first slip click. I was so sure it was fixed.:clap:

We took a ride and when we parked it in the garage guess what? It still emitted the odor of freshly boiled gasoline. So I guess the problem still exists! I will be standing at my dealers service department door on Tuesday AM when he opens for business. :gaah:

Had to leave the garage door open for almost two hours before it cleared out. Going to try running a fan on the front end to see if cooling it down faster helps This approaching ridculous now as it has ben going on off and on for 16 months now. :banghead:

Update to the saga of the new gas cap and the smell of raw gasoline.

called Can Am B R P this morning. Got a very nice young man who even sounded like he cared. He listened. Without interrupting while I filled him in on what the problem was. What I had. Done. What my results were. He asked some specific details such as how full the URL tank was. How empty it was when it did it. When I asked him what did BRP wanted me to do next. He was a little taken back it seemed like. His guidance was to take everything to the local dealer, give them the reference number that he gave me. Ask that they examine the cap and evaporative fuel canister and a replacement gas cap could be had if necessary.

heasked at what RPMs did I try to. Normally drive at? He recommended not getting lower then 3,200 or better. I aśked why? Apparently the fuel canister begins recycling gruel at that engine speed.. My normal thing is about 3400 to 4800 in town traffic. So I know what'll iI will be doing Tuesday AM.

 

[Bob Denman]

Bob,
Glad to hear that the Rep is trying to move this issue along to the point where the dealer can clear it up ror you! :thumbup:

 

[Bob Ledford]

UPDATE:2013.01.29 Recall gaz cap issue

Went tto the dealership this morning. Came home with a new gaz cap installed. Parked it hot and 20 minutes later there were minimal gas fumes in the garage mostly stinking exhaust fumes.

Assistant to the absent [on vacation] service manager wanted to hold off on canister inspection until the Service Manager returned. I can live with that. Been out in the garage three times today and it does NOT smell like a refinery or an open barel of gasoline. Maybe just maybe it be fixed. It is hard to walk with your fingers, feet, and arms crossed.

 

[jmcbow]

That would be a very bad idea. You need to change out the cap, it is a recall. Save your other as a spare if you like but you will kick yourself a 1000 times if there is a fire you could of prevented by changing the cap as required. Plus if they ever found out you didn't change the cap provided to you and could prove it (like this post) I'm not sure the insurance would have to cover it. :dontknow:

Change the cap when you get it :lecturef_smilie:
nojoke

I asked this under the "General Disscussion" forum, what the heck is the deal with the gas caps? I've not recieved anything from BRP regarding a recall on the gas cap.:dontknow:

 

[kentompkins]

Not sure what your source or evidence is for that last sentence. Thousands of us have had Spyders for years (I've had mine since April 2008) and have had few or no problems. If you only read the few negative reports here, you might well get the impression that the Spyder has many problems. But if you read all or most of the postings, you will quickly find out that the Spyder -- for most of us -- is without serious problems.

If you are riding yours -- you do own one, right? -- like the rest of us, you have come to realize that they are a great ride mile after mile, year after year.

Just saying.

ken tompkins

Read a post sometime back the smell might be coming not from the gas cap but from a quick disconnect fuel line at the tank. There's always some kind of problem with these machines.

 

[Lamonster]

I asked this under the "General Disscussion" forum, what the heck is the deal with the gas caps? I've not recieved anything from BRP regarding a recall on the gas cap.:dontknow:

http://spyder.brp.com/owner-center/...s?PostID=ea6cc7c9-764b-44ad-9647-a12e00f66679

And if you're not the original owner make sure your dealer has you put in the computer as the new owner.

 

[jmcbow]

http://spyder.brp.com/owner-center/...s?PostID=ea6cc7c9-764b-44ad-9647-a12e00f66679

And if you're not the original owner make sure your dealer has you put in the computer as the new owner.

Thanks Lamont, I am the original owner. 2010 RTS, but I've not recieved anything regarding a gas cap recall. Will check with my dealership. Thanks again.

 

[NancysToy]

Thanks Lamont, I am the original owner. 2010 RTS, but I've not recieved anything regarding a gas cap recall. Will check with my dealership. Thanks again.

These are being distributed in somebody's idea of accordance with riding season. Michigan hasn't been notified yet, either. Be patient!

 

[Bob Denman]

Went tto the dealership this morning. Came home with a new gaz cap installed. Parked it hot and 20 minutes later there were minimal gas fumes in the garage mostly stinking exhaust fumes.

Assistant to the absent [on vacation] service manager wanted to hold off on canister inspection until the Service Manager returned. I can live with that. Been out in the garage three times today and it does NOT smell like a refinery or an open barel of gasoline. Maybe just maybe it be fixed. It is hard to walk with your fingers, feet, and arms crossed.

Bob,
So far... so good?

:2thumbs:

 

[Y Rider]

The new gas cap didn't fix the gas fume smell so I went ahead and performed the canister removal mod. Took it out on 20 minute ride today with a full tank of fuel. Parked it in the garage and 15 minutes later had no gas smell. The real test will be this weekend when we go on a long enough ride that will heat the tank up enough to evaporate gas in the tank (boiling point).

 

[JJW SpyderRider]

Thanks Lamont, I am the original owner. 2010 RTS, but I've not recieved anything regarding a gas cap recall. Will check with my dealership. Thanks again.

I live in Northern Illinois and have not received anything yet but don't expect one at this time of year. Let BRP take care of those that are still riding, at least more than me, first. I have not had any issues with gas smell on ether of my Spyders.

 

[Trickie Dick]

Got mine yessterday

I'm sure it's because of our tropical weather and everyone here in sunny Indiana is riding on a daily basis. :roflblack:
BTW, the only time I've had a fuel smell issue was when the weather was in the high 90's and I was ridng in stop and go traffic. So really, very few times. I've never considered it an issue.

 

[RTVIPER]

New Gas Cap

The replacement gas cap did the trick. No more gas fumes filling up the garage :yes:

 

[Anakrid46]

Gas fumes 2012 RT

I have noted gas fumes coming from my 2012 RTS and it worries me a lot! Very strong on some days--I will let my dealer look into this next visit. I have looked for but never found any signs under the bike. I have noted that after rides in which I run fast I have more fumes after parking which leads me to think it may be the holding tank and plumbing at fault. Thanks to all for the input on this!:ani29:

 

[ABQAndy]

At first I thought that the new gas cap cured the gas smell problem, not so. I took a long ride yesterday and parked in the garage. Went in the house for a few minutes and when I went back in the garage there was the strong gas smell again. Have to leave the garage open for an hour or so to clear the fumes. Wish there was a solution that the dealer could perform!!

 

[Bob Denman]

Andy,
Any chance that it was just a case of overfilling the fuel tank? :dontknow:

 

[Jeriatric]

At first I thought that the new gas cap cured the gas smell problem, not so. I took a long ride yesterday and parked in the garage. Went in the house for a few minutes and when I went back in the garage there was the strong gas smell again. Have leave the garage open for an hour or so clear the fumes. Wish there was a solution that the dealer could perform!!

Not saying this is your problem but I'm told there has been problems with purge valve failure. One would think if it fails to work, that would cause over vaporizing of the canister. That, in my thinking may cause the canister to foul. Emissions are a five year warranty item - if memory serves me ray:

 

[Bob Denman]

So if I've got this figured right; there's about three reasons for fuel smells...
Leaky gas cap gasket
Bad purge valve
overfilling the tank...

Are there any others that come to mind? :shocked:
The issue of the warranty is interesting...
If overfilling the tank ruins that canister; could that still be considered a warranty item? :dontknow:
After all; if you let it dry out well before calling the dealer; could they trace it back to owner error?

 

[JJW SpyderRider]

So if I've got this figured right; there's about three reasons for fuel smells...
Leaky gas cap gasket
Bad purge valve
overfilling the tank...

Are there any others that come to mind? :shocked:
The issue of the warranty is interesting...
If overfilling the tank ruins that canister; could that still be considered a warranty item? :dontknow:
After all; if you let it dry out well before calling the dealer; could they trace it back to owner error?

Bob, You might add the leaking fitting on top of the gas tank. :dontknow: