New mapping for 2013 spyders

[cuznjohn]

9k

i have never seen my bike run at 9 k so something has to be wrong

 

[Mets79ST2013]

I ask myself the same question it never happen before, and I have my bike since April last year with 8,000 miles....

 

[Spyder Tony]

We had the latest campaign done to our 13 ST-L and noticed a definite improvement. The bike is smoother at idle and overall more responsive. Heat seems about the same...but it was not way hot prior to the campaign. We rode over 300 miles yesterday in low 70 degree temps...no overheating or excessive heat issues. The real proof will be this summer on the 90 to 100 degree days. If i don't overheat or throw a limp mode due to high engine temps THEN I will be totally pleased. Although the campaign did not directly address the issue, our 2013 still takes off real rough (as in excessive shaking) when cold. I was hoping the BUDS update would smooth this out. It only lasts 5 to 10 mins on takeoff...After that, it's smooth. Overall, we love the bike and will keep it for many years to come.

 

[DrewNJ]

The mapping has nothing to do with what rpms your turning at a specific gear/speed. It's a fixed ratio. The only way to change that is by changing the front or rear sprockets or gears within the trans.
There is no way you had "plenty left" if you were running down the highway at 9k rpms. That's why you shift. Your at the upper operating rpm range at those revs.


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[flamingobabe]

I have a 2013 ST and had to replace my plug wires at about 12k...one, the rear wire was crumbling and falling apart...check the wires...but my prpblem was rpms at idle was 900 to 2200...after turning on the throttle...it. ran fine

No, the point was 85mph in 5th gear is NOT 9000 rpm. Maybe in 4th. The tune cannot change RPM for a given speed. The trans gears are physical and software updates cannot change that or the sprockets on the belt.

I too have not experienced any lessening of power after the update. Any chance you have a failing plug wire? The symptoms point that way.

 

[Pirate looks at --]

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We had the latest campaign done to our 13 ST-L and noticed a definite improvement. The bike is smoother at idle and overall more responsive. Heat seems about the same...but it was not way hot prior to the campaign. We rode over 300 miles yesterday in low 70 degree temps...no overheating or excessive heat issues. The real proof will be this summer on the 90 to 100 degree days. If i don't overhead or throw a limp mode due to high engine temps THEN I will be totally pleased. Although the campaign did not directly address the issue, our 2013 still takes off real rough (as in excessive shaking) when cold. I was hoping the BUDS update would smooth thus out. It only lasts 5 to 10 mins on takeoff...After that, it's smooth. Overall, we love the bike and will keep it for many years to come.

You could sell it to Annette!:roflblack:

 

[Spyder Tony]

You could sell it to Annette!:roflblack:

We paid full price for what is now going for about 19K WITH cash back incentives and extended warranty. Tell Annette to go get her own...but say it with a loving tone in your voice

 

[missouriboy]

The mapping has nothing to do with what rpms your turning at a specific gear/speed. It's a fixed ratio. The only way to change that is by changing the front or rear sprockets or gears within the trans.
There is no way you had "plenty left" if you were running down the highway at 9k rpms. That's why you shift. Your at the upper operating rpm range at those revs.

The bolded statement above is, of course, true. But... isn't the indicated RPM driven by the computer's software? Software which was just changed?

So, the question is: Is the indicated 9K really true? Or did the re-map muck up the software tachometer-driver routine? (If there is one... I don't know the answer, but it seems obvious to me that the modern Spyder does NOT have any cable-drive from the engine crankshaft to the tachometer on the instrument panel.)

So, it's a seat-of-the-pants question to the OP: Does the machine really feel like 9K, or could the tachometer possibly be incorrect since the re-mapping was done?

 

[Gray Ghost]

Mapping refers to the tables that set the air/fuel ratios for different conditions. Remapping will not do anything to change the actual readings from the sensors, just how the AFR responds to the sensor outputs. So even if the mapping had somehow gotten screwed up on a particular bike it wouldn't affect the crankshaft position sensor count but just how the AFR responded to the count.