new lazer alingment

[Lamonster]

Watched the Video ,extremely interesting........No Mention of REAR WHEEL ALIGNMENT though ???????.....So where did the 5/8 come from ??????.....Mike

The front wheels are alined with the rear wheel not the frame. If the belt is tracking right it should be pretty close but the motor can be off and the rear wheel adjusted to the motor so the belt tracks right. That's where the 5/8" come from and the alinement is being done over almost twice the distance so it is a lot more precise.

 

[Jeriatric]

This isn't likely to be popular. But, why did it take someone on the outside to come up with something BRP engineers should have known all along. And, I'm not bashing BRP......it's just an honest observation.

 

[MikeinGA]

Rear tire alignment has a lot to do with you mpg. If it's off it can lower your mpg up to 5+ mpg. That's IMHO.

Mike

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

ALIGNMENT !!!!

OOP'S

 

[OldDog]

Is this being incorporated into the production line?

This isn't likely to be popular. But, why did it take someone on the outside to come up with something BRP engineers should have known all along. And, I'm not bashing BRP......it's just an honest observation.

:agree: I'm not bashing BRP......it's just an honest observation...

Is BRP implementing this on the latest 2013 models on the production line?

 

[Spydr in KS]

hmmm, maybe Len @ Pitbull will acquire one

 

[sinkhole]

rear wheel alignment...

The front wheels are alined with the rear wheel not the frame. If the belt is tracking right it should be pretty close but the motor can be off and the rear wheel adjusted to the motor so the belt tracks right. That's where the 5/8" come from and the alinement is being done over almost twice the distance so it is a lot more precise.

Three things can affect rear wheel alignment...
1.Engine/drive sprocket axis.
2.Rear fork pivot axis.
3. Rear wheel axis.
In a perfect world, all 3 should be perpendicular to the frame center line. As Lamont mentions, the main criteria is to have the rear wheel axis and engine axis parallel to each other. This keeps the belt tracking in the proper plane. Once that is accomplished, the front wheels can be aligned. If the rear wheel is not aligned with the longitudinal centerline of the Spyder for any reason, the bike will track in a crabbed attitude even with the front wheels aligned properly.

 

[reverendg]

Three things can affect rear wheel alignment...
1.Engine/drive sprocket axis.
2.Rear fork pivot axis.
3. Rear wheel axis.
In a perfect world, all 3 should be perpendicular to the frame center line. As Lamont mentions, the main criteria is to have the rear wheel axis and engine axis parallel to each other. This keeps the belt tracking in the proper plane. Once that is accomplished, the front wheels can be aligned. If the rear wheel is not aligned with the longitudinal centerline of the Spyder for any reason, the bike will track in a crabbed attitude even with the front wheels aligned properly.

The rear wheel can also be offset from the vehicle center line. Not likely to be done on a spyder, but on many Harley two wheelers the rear wheel is purposely offset from the centerline to account for engine weights. This allows the rider to go down the street without having to lean off to one side of the bike or having a constant right or left handlebar input.

 

[Jeriatric]

Assembly line.

Wonder how they check alignment of sprockets, then, front and rear wheels during assembly?

The engine has a go, no go, alignment pin which is supposed to properly seat the engine in the frame. But, during the assembly process do they straight edge(or laser) the front and rear pulleys and then make a minor belt tracking adjustment? Or is it engineered to be close is good enough?

If they are checking the above. How do they then check for proper alignment of the front and rear tires?

Just thinking out loud.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

MANY QUESTIONS ? ? ?

Assembly line.

Wonder how they check alignment of sprockets, then, front and rear wheels during assembly?

The engine has a go, no go, alignment pin which is supposed to properly seat the engine in the frame. But, during the assembly process do they straight edge(or laser) the front and rear pulleys and then make a minor belt tracking adjustment? Or is it engineered to be close is good enough?

If they are checking the above. How do they then check for proper alignment of the front and rear tires?

Just thinking out loud.

I agree,....I can see how they can send out ( BRP ) a Spyder that is not correctly aligned in the front ( I have two, one good ,one not so good alignmentwise from the factory ). However How can the ENGINE possibly not be aligned in the frame......The frames are all made on " JIGS " that are either perfect or every Spyder made with that " JIG " is " OFF " ......So the problem would be HUGH ...not just a few..........................JMHO......Mike :thumbup:

 

[Bob Ledford]

There was a Spyder rider and his wife at Maggie Valley pushing their laser alignment process. He said it was $100...or free if we didn't think it made a difference. They were from the Daytona, FL area. Someone on this forum may know them or saved their card.

This will get you there. http://www.microalignment.com/

 

[Firefly]

I'm interested to see how this all pans out. Could be a great asset for us riders. We've all spent more than $100 on silly farkels...... $100 for an alignment should be no big deal.

I am curious though, how they go about aligning the front wheels with the rear?

 

[Jeriatric]

I'm interested to see how this all pans out. Could be a great asset for us riders. We've all spent more than $100 on silly farkels...... $100 for an alignment should be no big deal.

I am curious though, how they go about aligning the front wheels with the rear?

Waiting for Lamont to update. Then either I'll have to pop for the equipment or hope my dealer does. :dontknow:

 

[MouthPiece]

Waiting for Lamont to update. Then either I'll have to pop for the equipment or hope my dealer does. :dontknow:

If it's that good, I'll spring for paying for it for my dealer.

Chris

 

[CruiseRT]

The front wheels are alined with the rear wheel not the frame. If the belt is tracking right it should be pretty close but the motor can be off and the rear wheel adjusted to the motor so the belt tracks right. That's where the 5/8" come from and the alinement is being done over almost twice the distance so it is a lot more precise.

Will this align a 2013 RT? Do you still have to have the rigid struts to do the alignment?

 

[Jeriatric]

If it's that good, I'll spring for paying for it for my dealer.

Chris

That'll work. As long as they keep me plumb :roflblack:

 

[Huddleston]

I bought this tool after talking with the owner/inventor of it at the Owners event. The thing that sold me on it was it based on contact patch of the tires and not frame alinement. I'm going to be doing BajaRons Spyder and mine this week to see if it's off seeing we did both of these the old way. I plan on doing alinements here along with suspension upgrades and tuning here at Lamonster Garage to help pay for this tool. I think this will help with front tire wear too if it's scrubbing of the tires because the tires are not alined with the rear that are causing it. I'm not an expert on this but I plan on being one. :doorag:

Lamont, are you doing the laser alignments yet?

 

[Guzzi]

Mike at Micro-Alignment in Edgewater, Fl are great folks. Fought my RT-S for 8000 miles, and then found Mike, right in my back yard! The Micro-Alignment on my RT-S really put the cake on the rest of my suspension mods, and it tracks true and is a pleasure to ride! Well worth the $100 for the alignment. Took about an hour. GUZZI :yes:

 

[Jeriatric]

Anything to report on findings and results ?

I bought this tool after talking with the owner/inventor of it at the Owners event. The thing that sold me on it was it based on contact patch of the tires and not frame alinement. I'm going to be doing BajaRons Spyder and mine this week to see if it's off seeing we did both of these the old way. I plan on doing alinements here along with suspension upgrades and tuning here at Lamonster Garage to help pay for this tool. I think this will help with front tire wear too if it's scrubbing of the tires because the tires are not alined with the rear that are causing it. I'm not an expert on this but I plan on being one. :doorag:

:doorag:

 

[Tx web rider]

laser allignment

hopefully a dealer in my area will get this im tired of buying front tires every 9k miles