New guy looking at an RT with very low miles

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

There's a lot of good things to say about the 1330 engine, but contrary to many opinions, the 990 is a good engine also. My nephew had no problem keeping up with me on our trip to Valcourt for Homecoming last spring. I was on my 2014 RTS, he on his 2010 RT A&C. But $13k for those machines is pushing the high side pretty hard. The price should be closer to $10k. Motorcycle owners across the board tend to value their bikes 15 to 20% above real market value. NADA prices are primarily dealer based. Private sales prices are closer to the lower NADA price. I had a 2013 base RT with 25k miles that I sold in March 2016 for $12,000.

 

[Omcge]

New Spyder

If it fits your Budget and drives good I say Go For it and don' look back.
I had a 2013 Twin Rt and a 14 and 15 Rt triples and I loved that Twin for the bottom end power and sound.
If you can do your own maintenance ,that is a plus because most of the Dealers seem to overcharge for repairs.
There are plenty of Threads on Tires, Oils, etc.,just do a search.

Good Luck

 

[Marr]

Small world

I went from a Silverwing to a 2011 RT manual shift 2 years ago, and it had only 1600 miles on it. Haven’t had any problems with it. I too would have liked to get a newer one, but everything cost money. I e got over 20,000 miles on it now. I rode it to Nebraska last summer and put almost 5000 miles on it. Another coincidence, we’re almost neighbors, I’m from Virginia Beach. If you need any help deciding let me know.

 

[Easy Rider]

So what would be a good price on a 2 cyl RT-S? The asking price is 13K. Nada price is about 13.8 without any adjustment for the low miles.

Two things about that:
The year model is important in determining a price.
NADA is a good bench mark, I think, but the point about dealer pricing is good.
Private seller price should be lower.

And extremely LOW miles is NOT a plus.

 

[chaz7771931]

Got a 2010 with just under 20k mile for 10k. Put about 1500 into it for upgraded swaybar plugs, wires, air filter, helmet locks, right side block off, lamonster dual power mount, x-grip, tomtom gps, clutch upgrade and 20k service from the dealer with all recalls done. It took about a week. Still looking to do more but arent we all...check the windshield adjustment arm about 200 for the arm plus labor unless you do it yourself.

 

[ARtraveler]

So just what are the heat and maintenance issues? So far I haven't run across them and I did read the stickys and look through the maintenance forum.

I would love a newer machine except for the price. Both of these RT's that I'm seeing are asking 13K. I'm looking to pay cash, and quite frankly for me, 13g's is quite a bit of money for what is essentially a big boy toy. From what I can tell, folks have gotten good service and mileage out the 2 cyl engine. If anything scares me a bit, its the semi automatic transmission. Not sure if I should stick with a manual, if for nothing more than the simplicity.

RE: Heat & Maintenance issues?

Heat: Some complain of getting hot feet from the engine. The 2013 RT's had heat issues that BRP fixed by adding air scoops to remediate.

Maintenance: The 990/998 twins required more maintenance than the 1330. 600 mile break in service, 4,500 mile intervals for oil changes, and 14,000 mile valve checks. The 1330's, 3,000 break in service, 9,300 oil change intervals OR once a year, and NO valve check services.

The semi auto is pretty much fool proof these days. Cost about $1,500 more to get it--but after that, you get your money back on trade. Manuals, although a lot like them, do not sell as well used. :thumbup:

 

[sealfloorboards]

I also had a Silver Wing, and loved it except I tended to fall over at stop lights (two wheel issues). I loved the room for my feet to move. I even made crude Hwy. pegs for it. My first Spyder was an '09 RS SE5. Loved it but designed the first Seal Floorboard to ease my riding position. From that I went to an '11 RT SE5 and now own a 2014 RT SE5. Ive loved them all, but always buy the base model. Much less expensive and don't need all the "shiney stuff". A set of Seals on any Spyder will greatly improve your sitting position and comfort level. Good luck on your choice. I still love my silver 2011, but the 1330 is awesome.
Ride in comfort,
John

 

[Eviltwin]

I also had a Silver Wing, and loved it except I tended to fall over at stop lights (two wheel issues). I loved the room for my feet to move. I even made crude Hwy. pegs for it. My first Spyder was an '09 RS SE5. Loved it but designed the first Seal Floorboard to ease my riding position. From that I went to an '11 RT SE5 and now own a 2014 RT SE5. Ive loved them all, but always buy the base model. Much less expensive and don't need all the "shiney stuff". A set of Seals on any Spyder will greatly improve your sitting position and comfort level. Good luck on your choice. I still love my silver 2011, but the 1330 is awesome.
Ride in comfort,
John

I will seriously consider a set of these boards. I like to be able to move my feet around a bit and these look well made.

 

[Eviltwin]

RE: Heat & Maintenance issues?

Heat: Some complain of getting hot feet from the engine. The 2013 RT's had heat issues that BRP fixed by adding air scoops to remediate.

Maintenance: The 990/998 twins required more maintenance than the 1330. 600 mile break in service, 4,500 mile intervals for oil changes, and 14,000 valve checks. The 1330's, 3,000 break in service, 9,300 oil change intervals OR once a year, and NO valve check services.

The semi auto is pretty much fool proof these days. Cost about $1,500 more to get it--but after that, you get your money back on trade. Manuals, although a lot like them, do not sell as well used. :thumbup:

Thanks, that was what I was wondering about. From all that I could find online and from the responses here, I figured that I could live with the 2 cyl over the 3 as long as I could get the bike for a good price to start.

 

[Buckeye Bleau]

The 1330 has a lot of advantages for sure, but do not be afraid of the V Twins, this is a great platform, it has an awesome record.

I really like the high reving 998 engine, it performs well, I think that it sounds better than the 1330 and the low end is great.

There are a lot of older models out there available if you look for them. Just make sure that you get the serial number and check with your dealer to insure that the recalls or updates have been done.

Joe

 

[Eviltwin]

We shook hands

I had called the owner of the black 2010 RTS and made arrangements to come back out today with my wife to see the bike again. Unfortunately she came down with some sort of bug last night and wasn't going anywhere. So I went without her to see if we could agree on a price less than his asking of 13,000. Nada had the price of the bike between 10,500 and 13,800 and KBB wasn't much different. Unlike cars and trucks, they dont seem to take into account details like overall condition and mileage. I guess thats why the give you a range.

So I came in low and he stayed up high and we danced around a bit but eventually we came to a price that was a bit higher than what I wanted and lower than he wanted; 11,700. Given the condition of the bike (pretty enough to be sitting in a dealer showroom), the low miles and the fact that I had confidence that he kept up with the maintenance and care of the bike, I'm happy with the deal. We shook hands and I'll get the bike in about a week after he gets back from a road trip. I have to order a cover for it since it won't be going into the garage till I can make some room for it. Here are some pics:

 

[PW2013STL]

:congrats: Welcome to the Spyder experience and :cheers: here's to you and your wife's new adventures. :yes:

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

You are going to have fun! :yes:

 

[chaz7771931]

I had called the owner of the black 2010 RTS and made arrangements to come back out today with my wife to see the bike again. Unfortunately she came down with some sort of bug last night and wasn't going anywhere. So I went without her to see if we could agree on a price less than his asking of 13,000. Nada had the price of the bike between 10,500 and 13,800 and KBB wasn't much different. Unlike cars and trucks, they dont seem to take into account details like overall condition and mileage. I guess thats why the give you a range.

So I came in low and he stayed up high and we danced around a bit but eventually we came to a price that was a bit higher than what I wanted and lower than he wanted; 11,700. Given the condition of the bike (pretty enough to be sitting in a dealer showroom), the low miles and the fact that I had confidence that he kept up with the maintenance and care of the bike, I'm happy with the deal. We shook hands and I'll get the bike in about a week after he gets back from a road trip. I have to order a cover for it since it won't be going into the garage till I can make some room for it. Here are some pics:

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get the bajaron swaybar with links for cross wind and highway with being passed by big trucks and you passing them. set the front shocks on the hard side. Adjust thing to how you like to ride.

 

[StanProff]

enjoy

I put 25,000 on my first spyder. A 2010 RTS .
The V twin runs great, keep the rpm's in the right the right range and it's plenty fast.
Rear factory tires ware fast due to the rubber compound being soft. 8,000 miles or so life is normal. Don't worry about adding aftermarket
items till you put a few thousand miles under
your belt. You may find that it handles fine for the way you ride. Of course if you have the money load it up anyway you like. The Spyder looks very good in the pics. take care and enjoy.

 

[Easy Rider]

I am sorry if you mentioned this higher up in the thread:
I REALLY hope you didn't make this deal without a test ride or two.
And if you did NOT get a test ride, now is not too late.
SERIOUSLY.

 

[Eviltwin]

I am sorry if you mentioned this higher up in the thread:
I REALLY hope you didn't make this deal without a test ride or two.
And if you did NOT get a test ride, now is not too late.
SERIOUSLY.

Yes, I took it for a ride, got it up to about 60. Handled well, seat position comfortable. This was the third Spyder I have ridden including an RS-S and a F3S.

 

[sealfloorboards]

I will seriously consider a set of these boards. I like to be able to move my feet around a bit and these look well made.

Best of luck Eviltwin, Which ever model you choose, I have it in stock.
Ride in comfort,
John

 

[sealfloorboards]

I had called the owner of the black 2010 RTS and made arrangements to come back out today with my wife to see the bike again. Unfortunately she came down with some sort of bug last night and wasn't going anywhere. So I went without her to see if we could agree on a price less than his asking of 13,000. Nada had the price of the bike between 10,500 and 13,800 and KBB wasn't much different. Unlike cars and trucks, they dont seem to take into account details like overall condition and mileage. I guess thats why the give you a range.

So I came in low and he stayed up high and we danced around a bit but eventually we came to a price that was a bit higher than what I wanted and lower than he wanted; 11,700. Given the condition of the bike (pretty enough to be sitting in a dealer showroom), the low miles and the fact that I had confidence that he kept up with the maintenance and care of the bike, I'm happy with the deal. We shook hands and I'll get the bike in about a week after he gets back from a road trip. I have to order a cover for it since it won't be going into the garage till I can make some room for it. Here are some pics:

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Great looking Spyder. You will love it. Like the price, good job.
Ride in comfort,
John

 

[ISPYD]

2016 for sale

Howdy. I don't yet have a Spyder, but am actively looking. I had a motorcycle endorsement from 30 years ago and recently started riding again after taking the MSC with my wife. My current ride is a Honda Silverwing, which I really like, but above 60 on the highway, It gets a bit tense. I'm no spring chicken, and I like the idea of a bike that I can't drop. Most of my riding is local, around 30-40 miles on the weekends. If I go with a Spyder, I hope to take some longer trips as well as hopefully ride my wife on the back.

I want an upright position, somewhere between touring and cruiser. The Silverwing has some large floorboards and it's nice being able to move your feet from one spot to another. So far I've rode 3 and sat on new models at the dealer. I'm just not up for paying the price on a new machine, so used is the only way I'll go. The first one was an 2012 RS_S, then a 2015 F3S and last a 2010 RT. Only the F3 was a manual shift. I didn't care for the RS-S, the sitting position was all wrong and shifting of the gears was rough, though that may have been partly me as I didn't know what to expect with it.

A guy near my house is selling the F3S and I liked the way I sat on it, as well as the way it rode, but his price is a bit high for me and it doesn't have much storage space. Lastly I rode the RT and while the seating position wasn't quite what the F3 was, it wasn't bad at all and I thought it drove pretty well. I kept the revs up over 4K and the shifting seemed much smoother, though I don't think I really figured out the smoothest downshift technique yet.

This particular RT (2010) has about 1400 miles on it and has been garage kept it's whole life. Bike looks like new and the only thing I found wrong with it was that the rear tire was down to the wear bars right in the center. I mentioned that to the owner and it took him by surprise. I like this bike well enough that I'm hoping to take my wife to see it tomorrow. Price is very good, considering the condition and mileage. And there is another RT (2011) about 150 miles north with about 3K on the clock for the same asking price, and it's in my favorite color, Blue.

I'm open to any thoughts and collective wisdom of the group. Anything in particular I should look out for? How hard is routine maintenance like oil changes and flushing brakes? I tend to do my own maintenance if at all possible and would probably tackle the rear tire to save a few bucks. FYI, the Silverwing needed a new rear tire as well to pass inspection and I took the wheels off and on that bike after watching a couple of Youtube videos.

Bob

Check out the Spyder cruzrjoe has posted. Low mileage and nice price. I think it was his brothers laws.