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New found friends @ Trike Training...

IWN2RYD

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Well the past two days (3 hours on Friday and 10 ish hours yesterday) my wife and I have spent time together @ the Evergreen Motorcycle Safety Training Basic Course for Trikes.

Well would you not know it, that two more Spyders are taking the same class, and gentleman (Jim) with plans to get one? :ohyea::ohyea::ohyea:

So anyway, I think I have the names right :coffee: Bill owns the Black RS in the photo below (I love the look of this Spyder :thumbup:) and John owns the Black RT...

Unfortunately my wife has used our RT-S most of the class, and the tranny (Because so far we have not gone higher than 1st) has stalled no less than 12-15 times on her, right in front of the instructors. Yeah... Now the instructors have not so nice thoughts on the Spyders... In fact one of them commented on how this bike is one of the most troublesome he can remember as a first year bike. :cus:nojoke(30+ years of serious bike ownership, has 6 in his garages at this time). Did I mention he designed and wrote this course? :gaah:

Anyway... I have been using the SideCar for my training with Jim's son named Doug. He knows his stuff :thumbup:.

This class while time consuming, so far is worth the effort. I am thankful that my wife and I decided to take this course. The "Tools" gained so far are priceless.

The new found developing friendships are worth the price of admission alone :yes::clap::firstplace:

Well Yesterday was a gorgeous day, and today it is pouring... Last day of class is all outside I understand. So I think we will be soaked puppies by the time it ends @ around 3:30....:dontknow:
 
Training

Your course sounds like ours was. Three hours on Friday night and eight hours on Sat. and Sun.
I totally agree that taking a course is well worth the time and money invested.
 
There is a pending recall for the SE5 stalling problem. Hopefully you can get yours repaired soon. Must have been a real chore for your wife during training. Good job getting through it! :thumbup:
 
Trike course instuctor

Did Krash tell you how she got the name?
Great gal ... she is also our treasurer of our riding group. We have a sociale at the Poodle Dog in Fife,WA. every Thursday at aprox. 6:PM.

Come on down!
 
SE5 Stalling on Course?

I guess it depends on one's level of experience. I have RT-S PE 0391. I have nearly 3K miles on it; it behaves well even in Washington DC's stop n' go traffic, but my eye is always on the temp guage; alas, the bike's never over-heated. It's never stalled. I'm a graduate of the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's basic course (July 08), where everyone rode a Buell Blast (Harley dealer), and (unless in honor of our friends with disabilities) I would recommend any rider take a two-wheeler training course before getting on ANYTHING else insofar as an open-road vehicle. Reading this forum string, I'm trying to understand the benefit of a trike course, where one never exceeds first gear, except for backing and parking. The back of the RT Spyder Owners Manual has a training regimine, and one day back in March I took my three cans of sawed-in-half tennis balls, layed out a course and followed it. It did take me some weeks to fully embrace the physical dynamics of the Spyder; but since then, I've been on some major rides and rallies, ncluding a some 200-milers and a 624 mile round trip down through the Blue Ridge to Roanoke, VA.
 
Your course sounds like ours was. Three hours on Friday night and eight hours on Sat. and Sun.
I totally agree that taking a course is well worth the time and money invested.
Glad you feel the same! :agree:
There is a pending recall for the SE5 stalling problem. Hopefully you can get yours repaired soon. Must have been a real chore for your wife during training. Good job getting through it! :thumbup:

Thanks! Dealer already has the parts, right now I am waiting on the shock and fittings. I want to help my dealer by not having it in every week. I would rather take it in to get it all down at once :thumbup:And thanks man! We all passed today!:ohyea:
Did Krash tell you how she got the name?
Great gal ... she is also our treasurer of our riding group. We have a sociale at the Poodle Dog in Fife,WA. every Thursday at aprox. 6:PM.

Come on down!

No.. Man I would of liked to have that info!! :roflblack::roflblack:

Fife "A"? Sounds fun! We will coordinate a night once the RT gets all fixed up :chat:
Where is the training held? How do we make contact?:yes:

Not sure if they are in your state.. But here is the link to the folks we used... :bowdown:
 
I guess it depends on one's level of experience. I have RT-S PE 0391. I have nearly 3K miles on it; it behaves well even in Washington DC's stop n' go traffic, but my eye is always on the temp guage; alas, the bike's never over-heated. It's never stalled. I'm a graduate of the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's basic course (July 08), where everyone rode a Buell Blast (Harley dealer), and (unless in honor of our friends with disabilities) I would recommend any rider take a two-wheeler training course before getting on ANYTHING else insofar as an open-road vehicle. Reading this forum string, I'm trying to understand the benefit of a trike course, where one never exceeds first gear, except for backing and parking. The back of the RT Spyder Owners Manual has a training regimine, and one day back in March I took my three cans of sawed-in-half tennis balls, layed out a course and followed it. It did take me some weeks to fully embrace the physical dynamics of the Spyder; but since then, I've been on some major rides and rallies, ncluding a some 200-milers and a 624 mile round trip down through the Blue Ridge to Roanoke, VA.


I felt the very same as you do. Let me make this clear. If the course we took is the same as a course local to you, it is worth every penny, and I am willing to bet you on it.

Quiet simply... This course saves lives. They teach us, Trikes, Sidecars and basic two wheel safety as well. This is not a ride around cones in a circle course. It is "Drive" the bike type course.

For example... I have heard and read a few comments on the Speed Channel Special they did on the Spyders. Comments like "I have no idea why they are hanging off the side of the bike" or "Who needs to lean in the bike? Just ride the darn thing"... Well let me tell you... I can now "Drive" my RT-S through an emergency situation by "Using" my body English to help maneuver in that situation and keep all three tires on the ground at the same time.

Or better yet.... Drive through a turn harder than before and not have the VSS kick in!!!

Or how about this... I now know how to safely drive a sidecar in an emergency situation on two wheels. At speed even! Or better yet, how to use my body english to keep all three tires on the ground, spin the rear drive tire just a little, and have complete control the entire time.

Basically what I am saying is this. Nearly every guy there said this class was not needed. These same guys (Including me) now say this class blew them away. Simple as that.

They.. well there is so much they teach us it would be faster to understand once you take it.

Is this Drivers Ed? Nope. But I am absolutely certain, that in the five states that now require this class in order to get your license made a very good decision.

In-fact, I was one of the guys that went into this class with a thought in the back of my mind of "They only have this class because the state wants more $$$$$... Boy was I wrong. Yes the state needed the $$, but it all (100%) goes back to these classes, including a large portion of the License endorsement fees.
 
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Patti took a two wheel course to get here license and it was one of the best things she ever did! :2thumbs:

These are something I wish was around when I started riding.

My daughter is going to go to one soon.:thumbup:
MM
 
Patti took a two wheel course to get here license and it was one of the best things she ever did! :2thumbs:

These are something I wish was around when I started riding.

My daughter is going to go to one soon.:thumbup:
MM
:agree: Nancy took the course, and it really helped her confidence...and eased my mind when we rode together afterward. No classes when I was a pup...there weren't even motorcycle endorsements yet.
 
Well I was to pooped out to go into the events of yesterday:roflblack:. So here we are...:thumbup:

First, I must say how well mannered everyone was. It is clear that the 20 something crowd is not a fan of the three wheels, for at least this class. That just leaves the rest of us :ohyea: Everyone there was a joy to learn with. A pleasant group to say the least .

Bill who owns and drives the Black RS sold me on getting myself one. Now I need to convince the wife :roflblack:. She knows exactly what may happen to it.

I learned that there are aftermarket kits available to take our engines to 1060cc's and a harness removal kit to allow total control of the ride. No ABS and no VSS in other-words. (See wife comment above:spyder:)

We had a fourth Spyder added to our group on Saturday afternoon. He took the two wheel course, and was offered the trike course from the half way point. His name is Terry, and his ride is a black RT-S.. Yet another nice guy! Below is the only photo I could squeeze out during the training... Very hard to see, but the four Spyders can be seen at the far end...

It rained a pretty good amount through the morning. We learned all of our water proof rain gear has week spots that allow rain in. For me, it was my crotch, neck and gloves... I was a soaked puppy.

As we drove to the training, we went through a serious downpour. It rained so hard, and so much, that the rain was hitting the dash @ 60 miles per hour!!! A few minutes into this... I had a weird cold feeling between my legs... Looked down... And saw a puddle of water had developed. Mind you the amount of water coming down was fast enough that the weight of me, pressing the seat against the tank area does not "Seal" it, but wow.. It allowed a collection of water!!

Anyway... I stood up to get rid of the puddle... That only made it worse... The windshield was protecting me, and as soon as I got in the air... Soaked my neck!!! sigh... :roflblack:

Oh well!

One thing we learned, is how well these unit hydroplane when going down the hwy. I am not sure why, but it seemed most of our HOV lanes are where all the water ends up. So we stopped using the HOV lanes and used the slow lane. Far less standing water there... We also loose traction at an angle, while accelerating onto the hwy a lot. I normal amount of feathering works just fine to keep that in check....

Also can't wait for the third brake light to ship this month. Waaaaaaaaaaaay to many folks are going around us on the hwy, and the person behind them (That of course was following to close) is all of the sudden seeing this little bike in front of them! I think with the third brake light folks will be able to see more of the bike from behind in bad weather.

Not to mention the excessively raised trucks and Tractor Trailer rigs that do not see my brake lights as they hug our back end... There height, long hoods and closeness cuts the brake lights out of their view... and they start following us and judging our movement. Or as my wife says... Ogling at our rig forgetting we are traveling at hwy speeds. Not to mention, as soon as we start to slow down for something we see down the road, the bike slows faster than most cars, so they come up on us really quick... gets kind of scary at times... I started to accelerate a bit, with my brake petal on. This way they see the brake lights and start slowing down... makes for a safer situation it seems.


Back to the class...


Oh my... Did I just realize if I do not mention this I may get in to trouble :roflblack:.

Everyone passed with flying colors... A few folks came up and teased me about how the instructor asked my wife... "How happy is your husband going to be when you beat him at the knowledge test?"... I said :yikes:... Lets just say I took on that challenge and the only chance she had was to tie with me :thumbup: 50 questions later... we aced it...

So then it is time for all of what we learned to be tested in one long test. If we went to slow, loss of points.. hit any lines... lost points... Slow down before we are told to... loss of points... Stay within 4' of every mark, or loose points... Zig when we should of Zagged, you guessed it... Loss of points.

Basically, you can fail the entire weekend event if you do two things wrong. One of the items that cost you the most is lack of speed. If you went through the slalom, you lost 15 of the 20 points allowed to pass. :yikes:. So the lead foot was needed.

And would you not know... My wife was up first... She said she was so nervous she thought she was going to throw up before she started!!

Well I will have to tell you... we had been a very talkative bunch up to this moment. And then the gave her the green light. BAM... revs go up and she shot out like I had never seen this entire weekend nojoke

The easiest way to say it.... Everyone's eyes said it all. The silence was loud and clear. One of the instructors at the starting line said, wow, that lady just set the bar pretty high! :gaah::helpsmilie:

As the results came in... It was clear as I looked at my sheet. We both did not loose any points, 100% scores... But she flat out beat every single one of my times!!! :lecturef_smilie::dontknow:. I think they cheated :roflblack:

The main instructor came up and told me that out of the top 30 participants that take this course, maybe one gets in the 10 seconds range (I scored 10.17) most instructors end up in the 11's, and then he looked at my wife and said, that is the first time I have seen a student hit the 9's (She hit 9.66) nojoke:yikes:

And the other three areas that are timed she beat me out as well!:ohyea::roflblack::firstplace::clap:

For a way funner than what we did, but gives you an idea of the test check out this [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEftQ4l2N00"](link)[/ame] Most of the course did not allow for more than 30mph. So basically we stayed in 1st gear on our bikes... Others started in second...

Keep in mind this was not an expedition of speed, but rather a show of skill without loosing traction, keeping all tires on the ground, looking ahead while using peripheral vision, keeping the trike inside an 8' path while utilizing our new found tools and so on...

And to be honest. I do have more to learn. I lost some time because I did not use enough body English at one point and the VSS kicked in, causing me to shift my weight the wrong way.

What a blast! Congrats to all those that came and succeeded. I love the fact that my wife toasted me. You cannot imagine how proud of her I am. I raced semi pro for a spell, and know quite a bit. She developed her skill from this training and offroad fun. Man what a woman!! :yes::clap:

What does all these mean in the end? the search is on for the right RS to add to the family :ohyea::shemademe_smilie:

And we are thinking about taking the advanced course. Time will tell. We hope you enjoy our little story! :thumbup::spyder2::doorag::2thumbs:
 
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This class was really something and it was a joy to meet you and your wife and all the other people. Anyone considering three wheels should take these classes.
Jon Black RTS-SE5
 
IWN2RYD,

I would highly recommend the third taillight, changing the rear taillights to LED, and the mudflap lights on the RS/GS. I installed mine a few months ago and I really noticed the difference!

David
 
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This class was really something and it was a joy to meet you and your wife and all the other people. Anyone considering three wheels should take these classes.
Jon Black RTS-SE5

Hey Jon!! Glad you posted! It was certainly a pleasure to be in your company. and... welcome:congrats::clap::bowdown:

How did your BBQ go? Please feel free to give us a shout if your itching to take a ryde :thumbup::spyder2::doorag:
 
IWN2RYD,

I would highly recommend the third taillight, changing the rear taillights to LED, and the mudflap lights on the RS/GS. I installed mine a few months ago and I really noticed the difference!

David

On order.. just waiting for them to ship :D:2thumbs:
 
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