Need Helmet defogger...

[pathfinderjoe]

this works great

I ride a lot in the rain / cold. I have tried lots of different home remedies and anti fog spray / gels / wipes etc. It's nice not to have to leave your shield cracked when it cold.

http://www.aerostich.com/respro-foggy-breathguard.html+

 

[bertmc]

Pinloc

Pinloc shields and other secondary inner shields are the best method. .

I like the Pinloc also, but they came on my Nolan & Shoei helmets, so I don't have any experience in buying or installing one on an existing shield. I have had trouble getting them adjusted tight against the shield after a while, especially around the bottom center, and I get condensation there.

The main negative about the Pinlocs to me is they cut down light transmission, I believe their literature says about 20%, so you lose just a little clarity of vision. The instructions warn you that they are not for use at night for this reason, but who is going to go to the trouble to remove it at night. I wear glasses, so this adds another layer of plastic to see through, plus one more if you are one of those who look through your windshield instead of over it (I don't). And if you are a senior, like many of us, you are probably starting to get cataracts on your biological lenses. All of that can add up to a noticeable loss of clarity.

Removing it for night riding takes a few minutes, depending on how hard it is to remove the shield from your helmet, and you have to store it somewhere. Which brings up another concern, they scratch easily, so also be careful when cleaning them.

Having said all that, I still like the Pinloc system better than defog products. I'm getting new lenses for my glasses, and will probably have my cataracts removed in the next year, so I'll be good to go then. In the meantime, stay out of my way!:yikes:

 

[Bonniele]

NancysToy

Pinloc shields and other secondary inner shields are the best method. A helmet with a good fog-free shield is next. I have found the Scorpion helmet shields to be the best in this department. Nowhere near as effective as the pinlocs, though. There are a wide variety of fog-free sprays and "waxes" on the market. They all claim to be the best, and may or may not work in varying degrees, depending on your particular conditions as well as the product. Expect to try a few before you find one you like. If your problem is misting on the outside, try gloves with a chamois thumb or a thumb squeegee. Best of luck in your quest.

Problem is not on the outside...problem is on the inside. Too cold to keep shield open a little...right now. Later, no problem with defogging at all. 80-100% Humidity all the time...90-100% right now. Will keep looking and trying diff stuff. Not much to chose from in this area

 

[Questions]

An old timer once told me of this trick and it has worked with no side effects so far.
First remove your visor and clean the inside with a NON ammonia based product, ammonia may cause the plastic to soften and fog.
Place the shield face down on a soft and clean bath towel to protect the outside surface.
Mix 1/4 cup of pure distilled water and 1/4 cup of pure white vinegar.
Using a clean NON printed 100% cotton t-shirt (the ink in printed t-shirts can be abrasive) dip one of the sleeves and squeeze till just damp.
Lightly wipe and coat the shield and then using the body of the t-shirt buff until dry. Reapply as needed until clean and clear.
The small amount of acid from the vinegar prevents moisture from collecting on the shield.
Using the same on mirrors and interior window surfaces in a bath room will also prevent fog.
I have used this mix on the face shields from three different brands and two fairing shields with no negative side effects so far and has been effective in temps as low as 18 deg. F

 

[daveinva]

I like the Pinloc also, but they came on my Nolan & Shoei helmets, so I don't have any experience in buying or installing one on an existing shield. I have had trouble getting them adjusted tight against the shield after a while, especially around the bottom center, and I get condensation there.

The main negative about the Pinlocs to me is they cut down light transmission, I believe their literature says about 20%, so you lose just a little clarity of vision. The instructions warn you that they are not for use at night for this reason, but who is going to go to the trouble to remove it at night. I wear glasses, so this adds another layer of plastic to see through, plus one more if you are one of those who look through your windshield instead of over it (I don't). And if you are a senior, like many of us, you are probably starting to get cataracts on your biological lenses. All of that can add up to a noticeable loss of clarity.

Removing it for night riding takes a few minutes, depending on how hard it is to remove the shield from your helmet, and you have to store it somewhere. Which brings up another concern, they scratch easily, so also be careful when cleaning them.

Having said all that, I still like the Pinloc system better than defog products. I'm getting new lenses for my glasses, and will probably have my cataracts removed in the next year, so I'll be good to go then. In the meantime, stay out of my way!:yikes:

No offense to our senior riders, but man, your vision must REALLY be shot if a clear Pinlock visor cuts down the light that much. Heck, IME, the *dark smoke* Pinlock visor (their darkest) barely cuts enough light in the sun for me.

Now, I can't ride at night with the Dark Smoke visor in, when I must ride at night I switch out the shield for a blank one (which is a pain, but having one of these handy bags in the frunk solves that problem: http://www.amazon.com/Simpson-Racin...UTF8&qid=1361668452&sr=8-1&keywords=visor+bag ). But I've never had to switch out the clear Pinlock at any time. Must be all the carrots I ate as a kid. :joke:

Anyway, once I have enough pennies saved up I plan on replacing my Shoei Qwest with the new Shoei GT Air, which comes with an internal sun visor, meaning I can go back to using a clear visor all the time and no swapping out for nighttime.

As for the Pinlock failing... it's a wear item, unfortunately. I've had some visors last an entire riding season; others start to warp just enough to allow condensation in a few months. The key really is to just get a good seal the first time, and then never, ever touch the thing again. (Take your entire shield off the helmet if you need to wipe down the inside-- use the softest cleaning pad you have to wipe down the visor, you're right that they do scratch. But a little spritz of Plexus and an iPod cloth does the trick for me).

 

[RAYYOU]

We use Shoei helmets with their pinloc shields. They work great and they also have use sort of coating on them that is supposed to block uv rays. It seems to work because our faces don't seem to get as tanned as it did before the pinlocs.

 

[spyryder]

If nothing else works you could get a heated visor.....been using them on snowmobiles for years.

 

[Star Cruiser]

I have glass cleaner for my glasses but it doesn't seem to work on the helmet shield. Any suggestions. Tried diff things...does anything work on both? Lots of humidity in Humboldt County, Ca.

I used hockey visor anti-fog and it worked pretty well. It is designed for to prevent fogging from a pretty sweaty workout in a relatively cool arena. I ran out one time and a team-mate lent me his cotton cloth to wipe away the fog and it didn't seem to come back. I discovered later that he sprayed a little PLEDGE (furniture polish) on the cloth. Now I spray, just a little, on a cotton cloth and wipe the shield. Worth a try... I have never sprayed the pledge directly on the shield - just wiped with the cloth lightly sprayed.

 

[retirednick]

Johnson Baby Shampoo rubbed in dry works for a day or so

 

[Bonniele]

BERTMC

I like the Pinloc also, but they came on my Nolan & Shoei helmets, so I don't have any experience in buying or installing one on an existing shield. I have had trouble getting them adjusted tight against the shield after a while, especially around the bottom center, and I get condensation there.

The main negative about the Pinlocs to me is they cut down light transmission, I believe their literature says about 20%, so you lose just a little clarity of vision. The instructions warn you that they are not for use at night for this reason, but who is going to go to the trouble to remove it at night. I wear glasses, so this adds another layer of plastic to see through, plus one more if you are one of those who look through your windshield instead of over it (I don't). And if you are a senior, like many of us, you are probably starting to get cataracts on your biological lenses. All of that can add up to a noticeable loss of clarity.

Removing it for night riding takes a few minutes, depending on how hard it is to remove the shield from your helmet, and you have to store it somewhere. Which brings up another concern, they scratch easily, so also be careful when cleaning them.

Having said all that, I still like the Pinloc system better than defog products. I'm getting new lenses for my glasses, and will probably have my cataracts removed in the next year, so I'll be good to go then. In the meantime, stay out of my way!:yikes:

I'll be watch'in for ya...at least I can still see. But, I am a woman driver so maybe you should be stayin out of MY way or take your chances!

 

[Bonniele]

retirednick

Johnson Baby Shampoo rubbed in dry works for a day or so

Thanks! This I have on hand. Will try it soon. Too cold today...maybe tomorrow will go for a ride.

 

[Bonniele]

Thank you for the idea

I used hockey visor anti-fog and it worked pretty well. It is designed for to prevent fogging from a pretty sweaty workout in a relatively cool arena. I ran out one time and a team-mate lent me his cotton cloth to wipe away the fog and it didn't seem to come back. I discovered later that he sprayed a little PLEDGE (furniture polish) on the cloth. Now I spray, just a little, on a cotton cloth and wipe the shield. Worth a try... I have never sprayed the pledge directly on the shield - just wiped with the cloth lightly sprayed.

I have this also. Will try it!

 

[cdavid]

This is the product I have been using this winter on the shield on the top cover of my Velomobile (enclosed recumbent tricycle) with very good results:

https://www.c-clearantifog.com/index.php

It's not perfect, however it's the best I have found for my purposes.

 

[Bonniele]

SpydieRydie: Need Helmet Defogger

An old timer once told me of this trick and it has worked with no side effects so far.
First remove your visor and clean the inside with a NON ammonia based product, ammonia may cause the plastic to soften and fog.
Place the shield face down on a soft and clean bath towel to protect the outside surface.
Mix 1/4 cup of pure distilled water and 1/4 cup of pure white vinegar.
Using a clean NON printed 100% cotton t-shirt (the ink in printed t-shirts can be abrasive) dip one of the sleeves and squeeze till just damp.
Lightly wipe and coat the shield and then using the body of the t-shirt buff until dry. Reapply as needed until clean and clear.
The small amount of acid from the vinegar prevents moisture from collecting on the shield.
Using the same on mirrors and interior window surfaces in a bath room will also prevent fog.
I have used this mix on the face shields from three different brands and two fairing shields with no negative side effects so far and has been effective in temps as low as 18 deg. F

That is awesome! Could use it on my windows (at home) also. Thanks a bunch!

 

[BamaJohn]

I have glass cleaner for my glasses but it doesn't seem to work on the helmet shield. Any suggestions. Tried diff things...does anything work on both? Lots of humidity in Humboldt County, Ca.

If you ever find anything that actually works, please share it with me! Cracking the shield up a bit is the only thing I've found, and I've tried almost everything.
jb

 

[Pirate looks at --]

Pin Lock

If you ever find anything that actually works, please share it with me! Cracking the shield up a bit is the only thing I've found, and I've tried almost everything.
jb

This really works. If your helmet does not off the pin lock system, look for one that does. It really works.

 

[2Paw]

If your wife (or You ) use a hair conditioner, rub some of that on the inside of your visor, this is not permanent fix though.

 

[iceworm]

Glasses fogging? (not discussing faceshield fogging - already well covered)
I'm a touch farsighted. Generally don't need glasses unless I'm on a long drive in a cage - then they do sharpen my distance vision a bit. On the scooter - contacts and faceshield, or contacts and wrap-around, optical grade shooting glasses. Fogging is never an issue - unless it's hot as hell, sweating like a pig, driving slow, then the wraparounds will fog a bit on the lower edges. Generally only a short term issue solved by opening the throttle.

But I really don't think I am enlightening anyone. Anybody that has been wearing glasses for 10 - 50 years likely knows all this.

Then again, if you have been told that you can't wear contacts for some reason or other, or they are uncomfortable, might want to check again. My wife is an optical tech, I get to try all the new stuff - free. And there is a lot of new stuff available.

 

[stevedfive]

I use Blaze anti fog spray, it works fairly well enough.

 

[SPYD3R]

VALUE

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS OF ANY VALUE TO YOU, BUT I MADE THIS LITTLE ITEM FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON YOU MENTIONED.....

MY FACE SHIELD WOULD FOG UP IN COLD WEATHER, AND I HAD TO KEEP OPENNING UP THE SHIELD, FREEZING MY FACE OF.... WITH THIS LITTLE 'SPACER', IT LETS JUST ENOUGH AIR IN TO KEEP THE SHIELD CLEAR, WITHOUT FREEZING MY FACE....
EASY TO MAKE... AND ROLLS OUT OF THE WAY WHEN NOT NEEDED....
1/16" RUBBER, CUT 3/8" WIDE, FOLDED OVER AND STAPLED, AND I USED A EMPTY .22 CASING TO GENERATE THE HOLE....
GOOD LUCK IF YOU MAKE ONE....
DAN P
SPYD3R F3-S