My Hindle is here, possibly blown gasket at the joint.. Is there alternative gasket?

[Greg H.]

My Hindle arrived yesterday. And, I know I have a blown exhaust gasket. I just don't know which one, for sure.
My original thought was to take the Spyder to the dealer, and have them replace the bad gasket under warranty before I install the Hindle.
I'm thinking the blown gasket is the one where the muffler connects. I know, after talking to the dealer, that they do not stock the gaskets. They want me to bring the Spyder in, evaluate which gasket is blown, order it, etc,,,.
If I remove the stock pipe, and find that the gasket is good, I'll go ahead, and install the Hindle, and take it in for the dealer to replace the bad one.
Now; if I remove the stock pipe, and find that the bad gasket resides there, is there a generic gasket that I could buy? This is the $1,000,000.00 question! :shocked: If so, it would be really nice!

Thanks!

 

[zzneonzz]

If i'm not mistaken i don't think you use the gasket when you use the hindle. Atleast thats what Denny told me when i was up their one day.

 

[M2Wild]

I would thought Hindle would come with its own new gasket. In anycase, if its blown then it should be replaced under warrenty by your dealer. And while they are replacing the gasket, why not just have them swap the muffler at the same time. No extra work on their part. At the end, you get a dealer installed Hindle at little or no money.

 

[ataDude]

.... is there a generic gasket that I could buy? This is the $1,000,000.00 question! :shocked: If so, it would be really nice!

Thanks!

Greg - I haven't found suitable replacements for either. However, the Hindle I have does NOT use the lower gasket. It's metal-to-metal. I do suggest, however, that you use hi-temp RTV to help seal the connection.

The lower, larger gasket, is right at 2.625" inside diameter and 2.875" outside diameter. I'm not aware of any of these that have blown out. And, they're a pretty screwball size... not available from what I've seen even from the performance shops.

The upper joint gaskets measure about 1.710" inside and 1.910" outside. I think a 1 3/4" inside and 1 7/8" outside would work fine. These are the ones that typically wear out due the flex between a rubber-mounted engine and frame mounted muffler. It's designed in and the flex is necessary to keep from stressing the header connection at the engine.

Here's what I'm thinking about using on the next dual-side exhaust system I will build in the next month or so:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8922

 

[docdoru]

IMO go with the dealer: they replaced both burned or disappeared gaskets (in warranty) and install the Hindle (a jump for the pipe from 30 days to 2 years warranty).
:doorag:

 

[srarndt]

Asking out of ignorance...

How did you know you had a bad gasket? I'm thinking that my stock exhaust has gotten just slightly louder of recent. I may be wrong...but might it be a gasket? How can I tell?

 

[bjt]

How did you know you had a bad gasket? I'm thinking that my stock exhaust has gotten just slightly louder of recent. I may be wrong...but might it be a gasket? How can I tell?

These are some of the signs that I had exhaust leaks. I had a Hindle on my Spyder but decided I wanted to go back to a quieter exhaust. I put the stock muffler back on and the Spyder seemed a little louder than I remembered. I noticed that the little pops and occasional backfiring I had with the Hindle was still happening with the stock exhaust (which I didn't have when I originally had the stock exhaust). There seemed to be more heat build up under the Spyder panels, especially by my right thigh. When I removed the panels to change my oil, some of the foil covered insulation exhibited signs of getting very hot. They were shrinking, warping, deforming, etc. I brought these things up to my service guy and he listened to the Spyder idling with the covers off and noticed right away that I had at least one leaking gasket. He could hear the exhaust leaking out at the joint.

 

[4leafpat]

Hindle and gaskets

Same here, no gasket is used on the Hindle, it is a metal to metal connection.
Pat

 

[sleepman]

If it's a blown gasket then it's probably the gasket where the pipes join on the right side. You should almost certainly feel the panels getting hotter on your thighs. I could slide my hand up under the panels near where the pipes join and feel the exhaust blowing out. I didn't feel like taking it to the dealer so I just ordered up the gasket and replaced it myself.

 

[docdoru]

If it's a blown gasket then it's probably the gasket where the pipes join on the right side. You should almost certainly feel the panels getting hotter on your thighs. I could slide my hand up under the panels near where the pipes join and feel the exhaust blowing out. I didn't feel like taking it to the dealer so I just ordered up the gasket and replaced it myself.

:agree: There are 3 gaskets; differential diagnostic: the highest is the one that blow hoot air to your LEFT, the other two to your RIGHT.

 

[bone crusher]

My Hindle arrived yesterday. And, I know I have a blown exhaust gasket. I just don't know which one, for sure.
My original thought was to take the Spyder to the dealer, and have them replace the bad gasket under warranty before I install the Hindle.
I'm thinking the blown gasket is the one where the muffler connects. I know, after talking to the dealer, that they do not stock the gaskets. They want me to bring the Spyder in, evaluate which gasket is blown, order it, etc,,,.
If I remove the stock pipe, and find that the gasket is good, I'll go ahead, and install the Hindle, and take it in for the dealer to replace the bad one.
Now; if I remove the stock pipe, and find that the bad gasket resides there, is there a generic gasket that I could buy? This is the $1,000,000.00 question! :shocked: If so, it would be really nice!

Thanks!

I agree with others here...the Hindle goes metal to metal...no gaps, no gasket...that gasket from the stock gets removed so that the hindle will fit...it is very tight going on and makes a very great seal...

 

[Greg H.]

Installed..

I appreciate the responses everyone. I got home a bit early yesterday, and did the install. I first, disconnected the battery. Then I removed the stock pipe. Removing the spring wasn't bad. The collar was tight on the stock pipe. But, came off pretty easily.
I slipped the clamp onto the Hindle, slipped the Hindle onto the Spyder pipe, and hand tightened the bolt by the back footrest before tightening the clamp, and adding the spring back. Then; I tightened the bolt by the footrest.
It took about 10 minutes, I guess. I let the Spyder sit a few more minutes with the battery disconnected before connecting it back.
Per the instructions, I started the Spyder, and let it idle for 20 minutes. The instructions actually say 15 minutes. I then let it cool down for 15 minutes. When I cranked it up there was a little moisture dripping under the joint, and I could feel exhaust leaking there, as I put my hand down there. Metal to metal... I figure there will be a little, perhaps.
After the 20 minute idle, during the cooldown, I put a socket back on the clamp, and tightened it a bit more.
Now, it was time to go for a ride. I started the Spyder.. And, I do love the sound of the Hindle! :thumbup:

I backed out of the garage, and headed out. As many have mentioned, I too, notice the difference in the response through the gears with the Hindle. I went out onto Hwy 64, and very quickly hit the 65mph speed limit - on up to about 72mph. I pulled into the first gas station (quik shop ), fueled up, and hit 64 again up to Somerville where the speed limit drops to 55, 45, and 30mph. On the other side of Somerville, I went to one of my favorite playgrounds; Jernigan Rd / Somerville Rd. 15+ miles of 55mph backroad boogie with lots of elevations to go along with the twists and turns. :thumbup:
After running that for about 8 miles, I headed north on Armour Rd. which leads back to Hwy 64. And, Armour, too, is lots of fun! After reaching Hwy 64, I went east for another several miles into Whiteville. The speed limit is 65mph. So, I was really able to let the Spyder and Hindle breathe. Yep! I like the Hindle - alot!
After 48 miles, I was back in the garage. And, I think I tightened the clamp enough that the small leak is now gone.
Is there another leak - a blown gasket? I'm not sure. I have not noticed any side panels heating up. When I take the Spyder in for the 6,000 mile service, which will be more like 8,000 miles, I'll have the dealer check.
Currently, my Spyder has about 6,600 miles logged. I took delivery Sept. 27th, 2008.

And, many thanks again, to bone crusher for the heads up to the great price on the Hindle!

 

[bone crusher]

Installed..

I appreciate the responses everyone. I got home a bit early yesterday, and did the install. I first, disconnected the battery. Then I removed the stock pipe. Removing the spring wasn't bad. The collar was tight on the stock pipe. But, came off pretty easily.
I slipped the clamp onto the Hindle, slipped the Hindle onto the Spyder pipe, and hand tightened the bolt by the back footrest before tightening the clamp, and adding the spring back. Then; I tightened the bolt by the footrest.
It took about 10 minutes, I guess. I let the Spyder sit a few more minutes with the battery disconnected before connecting it back.
Per the instructions, I started the Spyder, and let it idle for 20 minutes. The instructions actually say 15 minutes. I then let it cool down for 15 minutes. When I cranked it up there was a little moisture dripping under the joint, and I could feel exhaust leaking there, as I put my hand down there. Metal to metal... I figure there will be a little, perhaps.
After the 20 minute idle, during the cooldown, I put a socket back on the clamp, and tightened it a bit more.
Now, it was time to go for a ride. I started the Spyder.. And, I do love the sound of the Hindle! :thumbup:

I backed out of the garage, and headed out. As many have mentioned, I too, notice the difference in the response through the gears with the Hindle. I went out onto Hwy 64, and very quickly hit the 65mph speed limit - on up to about 72mph. I pulled into the first gas station (quik shop ), fueled up, and hit 64 again up to Somerville where the speed limit drops to 55, 45, and 30mph. On the other side of Somerville, I went to one of my favorite playgrounds; Jernigan Rd / Somerville Rd. 15+ miles of 55mph backroad boogie with lots of elevations to go along with the twists and turns. :thumbup:
After running that for about 8 miles, I headed north on Armour Rd. which leads back to Hwy 64. And, Armour, too, is lots of fun! After reaching Hwy 64, I went east for another several miles into Whiteville. The speed limit is 65mph. So, I was really able to let the Spyder and Hindle breathe. Yep! I like the Hindle - alot!
After 48 miles, I was back in the garage. And, I think I tightened the clamp enough that the small leak is now gone.
Is there another leak - a blown gasket? I'm not sure. I have not noticed any side panels heating up. When I take the Spyder in for the 6,000 mile service, which will be more like 8,000 miles, I'll have the dealer check.
Currently, my Spyder has about 6,600 miles logged. I took delivery Sept. 27th, 2008.

And, many thanks again, to bone crusher for the heads up to the great price on the Hindle!

Glad you love it...the hindle makes such a nice difference...I'm excited to get any/all BRP items discounted...

BTW, still looking for a dealership to give an amazing discount for 3 year w/ roadside assistance warranty...when I find one, I'll make sure everyone knows...this is a good area to save money...our dealership (where we got the hindle), won't go low on warranties...I'll work on the dealership where I bought the Spyder...