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My first ride, and question about the Baja Ron sway bar

I don't know of any Spyder clubs in my area. I hardly ever see any Spyders riding around here to be honest.

How long should it take to install this for someone who has a lift? One place told me 4.5 hours. That just seem ridiculous.

Thanks

Pam

The only way that anyone could take 4.5 hours was to consume a case of beer while doing it. Some of that time would be sleeping it off. Jesus theses dealers must be starving to death so when they perceive a guppy they try to make it for the day or week.\

IMO a moron can do it, I proved that by doing my own. Watch the video a number of times, build yourself some ramps or buy the HF ATV lift, you will need them in the future with dealers like that around. Or take up robbing 7-11s on the weekends to pay for your habit/bike.
 
I don't know of any Spyder clubs in my area. I hardly ever see any Spyders riding around here to be honest.

How long should it take to install this for someone who has a lift? One place told me 4.5 hours. That just seem ridiculous.

Thanks

Pam

I will comment one more time on this. Pam, if you have a floor jack, my stiffeners are easily installed and they do work. Here is the installation video:

 
Hi pitz,

Re: IMO a moron can do it, I proved that by doing my own.

Well, I do hope that does not become the standard for DIY. :thumbup:

I did notice that there are no chapters listed for Arizona. I have to believe that some indie shop could it for her.

Jerry Baumchen
 
It seems like those would defeat the purpose of the springs and make the ride harder. That's just my perception, but what do I know? I've already purchased the sway bar, now the challenge is getting it installed without it costing me an arm and leg.

Pam

I will comment one more time on this. Pam, if you have a floor jack, my stiffeners are easily installed and they do work. Here is the installation video:

 
install

I went to the dealer in Red Wing, MN where i bought my 2014 RT Limited. They had never installed the Baja Ron bar. I asked them to look at the instructions and give me a quote. They called back and told me it would take an hour. At $90/hr that's money well spent! I asked them to order the bar ($215) and install it.

I would never return to a shop that quoted 4.5 hrs!!!

It seems like those would defeat the purpose of the springs and make the ride harder. That's just my perception, but what do I know? I've already purchased the sway bar, now the challenge is getting it installed without it costing me an arm and leg.

Pam
 
Maybe I can do it myself.....?

If I do it myself and it takes four and a half hours, at least I don't have to pay anyone.....

I have a Harbor Freight jack that will raise a maximum of 16". Will this work if I use jack stands?

If so, where do I place the jack under the Spyder to safely lift it?

If I can get it in the air so that I can get under there to do the work, I think I can follow the instructions.


What do y'all think?

Pam
 
If I do it myself and it takes four and a half hours, at least I don't have to pay anyone.....

I have a Harbor Freight jack that will raise a maximum of 16". Will this work if I use jack stands?

If so, where do I place the jack under the Spyder to safely lift it?

If I can get it in the air so that I can get under there to do the work, I think I can follow the instructions.


What do y'all think?

Pam

That system will work. You will need to jack the front of the Spyder as high as it will go leaving the rear wheel on the ground. Use the jack stands to hold it there. Then lower the jack and put cribbing on it (4x4's or something similar). Then jack it up again. This will give you the needed height. Don't do this until you are ready to actually remove and replace the bar. As soon as you have the new bar into the frame channel you can then lower the Spyder back down if you wish to complete the install.
 
Thanks Ron. Can you tell me where under the Spyder is the safest place to place the jack? I peered under there and saw a flat black section that looked like it might be a plate. Just want to be sure so I don't break anything under there.

Also, does it need to be in neutral with the parking brake off when jacking it up?

Pam


That system will work. You will need to jack the front of the Spyder as high as it will go leaving the rear wheel on the ground. Use the jack stands to hold it there. Then lower the jack and put cribbing on it (4x4's or something similar). Then jack it up again. This will give you the needed height. Don't do this until you are ready to actually remove and replace the bar. As soon as you have the new bar into the frame channel you can then lower the Spyder back down if you wish to complete the install.
 
Thanks Ron. Can you tell me where under the Spyder is the safest place to place the jack? I peered under there and saw a flat black section that looked like it might be a plate. Just want to be sure so I don't break anything under there.

Also, does it need to be in neutral with the parking brake off when jacking it up?

Pam

You want to lift on the center frame channel which is about 5" wide. Do not lift on the front skid plate (Plastic). You can lift anywhere on this frame channel but lifting farther forward will allow the rear wheel to remain on the ground. You can leave the rear wheel free while you are lifting so it can roll as you lift. But once the Spyder is lifted you need to set the rear brake and you should also chock the rear wheel so it cannot move.
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Got it!

Thanks!

Pam

You want to lift on the center frame channel which is about 5" wide. Do not lift on the front skid plate (Plastic). You can lift anywhere on this frame channel but lifting farther forward will allow the rear wheel to remain on the ground. You can leave the rear wheel free while you are lifting so it can roll as you lift. But once the Spyder is lifted you need to set the rear brake and you should also chalk the rear wheel so it cannot move.
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Got it!

Thanks!

Pam

Sorry Pam, this is what happens when I am in a hurry. And I'm ALWAYS in a hurry!

Look at my edited frame picture. I had the jack area at the rear in my first picture and you got to it before I got it changed.
 
Also be aware that chalk won't stop the rear wheel from moving. You gotta chock it! :shocked: :roflblack:

Our president draws lines in the sand that people can't cross! It should work just as well for tires! (and it does, by the way...)

But you got me on this one. Don't know what I was thinking....
 
Hi Pam,

Re: Got it!

I hope that you do; it is not rocket science.

Just something to give a thought to ( and it all depends upon your floorjack ): I have an '08 and a floorjack that is so old I do not remember where I bought it. My floorjack will not go directly under the front of my Spyder. To get it up ( no smart comments, fellas ) I first put the floorjack under either the (R) or (L) A-frame, lift it just a couple of inches then put a 2 x 4 or whatever I have close under that wheel. Then to the same to the other side. Then I put the floorjack under the frame and lift away. Put jackstands under each A-frame, check that she is stable & won't move and start working.

YMMV

Keep us posted on your swaybar project,

Jerry Baumchen
 
Also be aware that chalk won't stop the rear wheel from moving. You gotta chock it! :shocked: :roflblack:

Yeah I kind of figured that. I do have a couple of chocks in my garage, but I'm completely out of chalk. :roflblack:

Thanks again for the help Baja Ron :)

Pam
 
UPDATE: The owner of the dealership where I bought the Spyder called and apologized for a rookie service adviser misquoting me $300 to install the sway bar, and said they can do it for an hour labor. It's worth the 140 mile ride up to the cool high country of Arizona and $90 to have it installed while I eat lunch.

As for the place that quoted me $480, I paid them a visit today. This is the same dealership here in Phoenix (Apache Motorcycles) that tried to screw me to the wall when I was shopping for my Spyder. I spoke to the service manager and asked why they quoted four and a half hours of labor for a job that everyone says can be done in less than an hour. He explained that since they don't have the right kind of equipment, whenever they do a sway bar replacement, they have to call upon three extra people to hold up the front of the Spyder while the technician does the work. I practically rolled out of the place laughing.roflmao

Pam


I purchased the Anti Sway bar, and it was shipped today. In email conversations with Baja Ron and with SpyderPops, it looks like I don't have the proper equipment in my garage to lift it high enough. I checked with a couple of the local dealers to see how much it would cost for them to install it. One was nearly $300 and the other was $480. I can kick myself for not taking this into consideration, thinking it was something that I could easily install myself. Now I have to return it as soon as it arrives.

I guess I'll have to learn to live with the "floating" sensation. It's not worth $600-$800 to correct something that really should have been done by Can Am.

Pam
 
Bajaron bar

I purchased the Anti Sway bar, and it was shipped today. In email conversations with Baja Ron and with SpyderPops, it looks like I don't have the proper equipment in my garage to lift it high enough. I checked with a couple of the local dealers to see how much it would cost for them to install it. One was nearly $300 and the other was $480. I can kick myself for not taking this into consideration, thinking it was something that I could easily install myself. Now I have to return it as soon as it arrives.

I guess I'll have to learn to live with the "floating" sensation. It's not worth $600-$800 to correct something that really should have been done by Can Am.

Pam
Hi PamI live in Gilbert Az . Same dealers same quates. I have a fork lift and did it my self after their quates.
It all is hard to get at but the biggest problem is getting bolts throught the white blocks. I used a drift pin and clamped them in place but one was way out of wack. So I ended up rounding out one bolt and finally got the second one done. So glad I did it realy makes a difference.
Most independents do not want to work on can am spyder too much tupperware to take off.
PS I do some great rides with locals who except us like and other bike. Send me a private message will get you hooked up with them. Also want to get a spyder group together so hope you join in.
Kenn
 
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