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Motorcycle Crash!!!

I don't know the details of this accident, and I don't want to get flamed unmercifully for speaking out, but I suspect some flaws in the actions of the motorcyclists. First, the SUV stopped quickly and unexpectedly. We don't know the reason, maybe he spilled coffee in his lap, maybe he held a grudge against cyclists, or maybe an animal darted out in front of him. Only that motorist knows why he stopped suddenly. It is the responsibility of the following vehicle to allow a safe, sure distance ahead to prevent colliding with the other vehicle, however. This was not the case here. People follow too closely these days to assure stopping in time if something unexpected happens. Keep your distance, SpyderLovers!

This rule applies within a group of riders, too. I don't know what type of dual formation these riders were in, but I suspect they were riding two abreast. Usually, this results in far less than two seconds to the motorcycle directly ahead. It also does not allow for evasive maneuvers without taking another rider with you. I highly recommend staggered formation for all motorcycle group rides! Riders within the group need to maintain at least a two second gap to the bike directly ahead in their part of the lane. Spyder riders should be single file, with a two second gap, minimum.

Let's hope that everyone involved recovers quickly and completly. Let's also hope that they all learn from any mistakes they made, and adjust accordingly for future rides. We all can learn from this!
 
NancysToy said:
I don't know the details of this accident, and I don't want to get flamed unmercifully for speaking out, but I suspect some flaws in the actions of the motorcyclists. First, the SUV stopped quickly and unexpectedly. We don't know the reason, maybe he spilled coffee in his lap, maybe he held a grudge against cyclists, or maybe an animal darted out in front of him. Only that motorist knows why he stopped suddenly. It is the responsibility of the following vehicle to allow a safe, sure distance ahead to prevent colliding with the other vehicle, however. This was not the case here. People follow too closely these days to assure stopping in time if something unexpected happens. Keep your distance, SpyderLovers!

This rule applies within a group of riders, too. I don't know what type of dual formation these riders were in, but I suspect they were riding two abreast. Usually, this results in far less than two seconds to the motorcycle directly ahead. It also does not allow for evasive maneuvers without taking another rider with you. I highly recommend staggered formation for all motorcycle group rides! Riders within the group need to maintain at least a two second gap to the bike directly ahead in their part of the lane. Spyder riders should be single file, with a two second gap, minimum.

Let's hope that everyone involved recovers quickly and completly. Let's also hope that they all learn from any mistakes they made, and adjust accordingly for future rides. We all can learn from this!
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:thumbup:Very well said!!!!
 
Scotty,

I agree about keeping a safe distance. I think years ago the rule was 1 car length for every 10 mph; you very seldom see that.

Sometimes keeping a safe distance is just outside of your control when the idiot decides to switch lanes and the driver behind you is following to close. That's not what happened here; but, you mentioned keeping a safe distance.
 
NancysToy said:
It is the responsibility of the following vehicle to allow a safe, sure distance ahead to prevent colliding with the other vehicle,
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:agree: But with that said, I also know there are a lot more idiot cagers on the road lately. Been running into a few just about on a daily basis. On the reverse side, every so often a HD or two likes to rap their pipe really effing loud late nights as they go by. Makes me wanna throw something at them.

But in the end ..... it is your azz and your equipment on the line. So ride safely and keep the sunny side down.
 
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I will say that their are people out there that hate motorcyclist.. about a month ago i was riding in CT on I-84 when a semi truck ran me off the road into a guard rail doing very little damage to my spyder but he had no reason. traffic was clear in front of him.. soo. I called the police and reported him... I followed the semi for a couple of miles and soon after i called the police he got pulled over.. Soo i stop and told the cop what happend and showed him the damage.. I am not sure what happend after that but.... The cop told me to go ahead and leave.. I am sure i should of got more of the drivers information but i was so mad.. that i think i was going to do more harm then good.. soo.. i just left..
 
fleet2904 said:
I will say that their are people out there that hate motorcyclist.. about a month ago i was riding in CT on I-84 when a semi truck ran me off the road into a guard rail doing very little damage to my spyder but he had no reason. traffic was clear in front of him.. soo. I called the police and reported him... I followed the semi for a couple of miles and soon after i called the police he got pulled over.. Soo i stop and told the cop what happend and showed him the damage.. I am not sure what happend after that but.... The cop told me to go ahead and leave.. I am sure i should of got more of the drivers information but i was so mad.. that i think i was going to do more harm then good.. soo.. i just left..
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Good for you!!!:thumbup: I am glad to hear that you were alright :pray: Sorry to hear about your spyder. I hope you got it fixed.
 
advice

BumbleBee said:
Just came across this article. Involves 30 motorcycles!!!:yikes:
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Yesterday I saw the bizarre results of an accident involving a motorcycle being rear-ended at a stop light, sadly the rider was killed. I have never seen a motorcycle embedded in the front of a van - it was like some weird hood ornament.

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This NEWS clip captures the results pretty well.

http://clipsyndicate.com/publish/video/1103248?wpid=1260

It has been mentioned here many times, but again for all you new riders, stay in gear when you stop at an intersection. I am guessing that in this case, the rider had a vehicle in front of him and had nowhere to go, but you should always pay attention to what is happening behind you and try and have an escape route - just in case.

That advice saved me once about 25 years ago, New Years Day in Chicago. Every day since then has been a gift from following that advice.

I ride the road where this happened all the time. Great visibility, 45MPH limit, 7 lanes 3 North/3 South/1 turn.

Tom
 
I got hit from behind at an intersection 2 years ago, 13 trips to the chiropractor, over a month off work, lots of damage to the Suzuki I was on. Woman said she was "reading a map". I would have probably stayed upright on the Spyder. Hurts to hit the pavement.
 
NancysToy said:
I don't know the details of this accident, and I don't want to get flamed unmercifully for speaking out, but I suspect some flaws in the actions of the motorcyclists. First, the SUV stopped quickly and unexpectedly. We don't know the reason, maybe he spilled coffee in his lap, maybe he held a grudge against cyclists, or maybe an animal darted out in front of him. Only that motorist knows why he stopped suddenly. It is the responsibility of the following vehicle to allow a safe, sure distance ahead to prevent colliding with the other vehicle, however. This was not the case here. People follow too closely these days to assure stopping in time if something unexpected happens. Keep your distance, SpyderLovers!

This rule applies within a group of riders, too. I don't know what type of dual formation these riders were in, but I suspect they were riding two abreast. Usually, this results in far less than two seconds to the motorcycle directly ahead. It also does not allow for evasive maneuvers without taking another rider with you. I highly recommend staggered formation for all motorcycle group rides! Riders within the group need to maintain at least a two second gap to the bike directly ahead in their part of the lane. Spyder riders should be single file, with a two second gap, minimum.

Let's hope that everyone involved recovers quickly and completly. Let's also hope that they all learn from any mistakes they made, and adjust accordingly for future rides. We all can learn from this!
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:agree:
 
fleet2904 said:
I will say that their are people out there that hate motorcyclist.. about a month ago i was riding in CT on I-84 when a semi truck ran me off the road into a guard rail doing very little damage to my spyder but he had no reason. traffic was clear in front of him.. soo. I called the police and reported him... I followed the semi for a couple of miles and soon after i called the police he got pulled over.. Soo i stop and told the cop what happend and showed him the damage.. I am not sure what happend after that but.... The cop told me to go ahead and leave.. I am sure i should of got more of the drivers information but i was so mad.. that i think i was going to do more harm then good.. soo.. i just left..
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If you've never driven a semi then you don't realize how hard it is to see small vehicles out of your mirrors at time. A good bit of advice is to spend as little time as possible along side the semi between their rear wheels and the cab.
 
I saw that mess yesterday - the Harley riders were far too close for safety. I know all the arguments about taking too much space when a large group is riding, but this was a joke.

When we ride with a group, it's two bikes then a 1.5 car space, then two bikes. If some Californian wants to pass, it can happen safely

Who was at fault yesterday, isn't as important as the huge number of errors that were made by everyone...
 
Tom in NM said:
Yesterday I saw the bizarre results of an accident involving a motorcycle being rear-ended at a stop light, sadly the rider was killed. I have never seen a motorcycle embedded in the front of a van - it was like some weird hood ornament.

picture.php


This NEWS clip captures the results pretty well.

http://clipsyndicate.com/publish/video/1103248?wpid=1260

It has been mentioned here many times, but again for all you new riders, stay in gear when you stop at an intersection. I am guessing that in this case, the rider had a vehicle in front of him and had nowhere to go, but you should always pay attention to what is happening behind you and try and have an escape route - just in case.

That advice saved me once about 25 years ago, New Years Day in Chicago. Every day since then has been a gift from following that advice.

I ride the road where this happened all the time. Great visibility, 45MPH limit, 7 lanes 3 North/3 South/1 turn.

Tom
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Remember this:

On a bike it might be best to stay in gear and try to avoid a crash...in a car, do NOT try to move...hold the brakes and let the car absorb the energy. As a crash reconstructionist, I can tell you that studies show that collisions while you are moving are far worse than allowing your crumple zones to work for you...
 
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