Misfire from Hindle Exhaust....

[1BlackWidow]

I installed the Hindle Exhaust the day i brought the Spyder home....and I love it.
The problem is that the Spyder skips now when i let off the throttle and then immediately hit it again....like it is misfiring or something.
Is anyone else having the popping/misfires from the new exhaust?

 

[Danimal]

What gas are you running?

Too high octane can cause some problems.

Is your engine up to temp when this happens?

 

[Dilbertian]

I installed the Hindle Exhaust the day i brought the Spyder home....and I love it.
The problem is that the Spyder skips now when i let off the throttle and then immediately hit it again....like it is misfiring or something.
Is anyone else having the popping/misfires from the new exhaust?

I noticed after installing mine that it now needs about 2-3 minutes to really warm up before riding it or it will ride rough. Even after that it really doesn't seem to like the cold (<50 degree f) mornings. Also, when you are engine braking you will get some backfire pops here and there depending on the RPMs and gear.

Does it do the misfire thing after it's been thoroughly warmed up? I will try that tomorrow to see if mine does the same when it's cold, warm and very warm.

-Tim

 

[Diggittt]

mine will skip or misfire when it has one or less bars on the temp.... she likes to be warm, two or more bars....

Diggittt

 

[bjt]

I noticed after installing mine that it now needs about 2-3 minutes to really warm up before riding it or it will ride rough. Even after that it really doesn't seem to like the cold (<50 degree f) mornings. Also, when you are engine braking you will get some backfire pops here and there depending on the RPMs and gear.

Does it do the misfire thing after it's been thoroughly warmed up? I will try that tomorrow to see if mine does the same when it's cold, warm and very warm.

-Tim

I'll second most of this. I don't need a long warm-up if the temps are in the high 60's or better. When it is in the 40's or 50's the Spyder definately needs a warm-up.

 

[joelin]

I installed the Hindle Exhaust the day i brought the Spyder home....and I love it.
The problem is that the Spyder skips now when i let off the throttle and then immediately hit it again....like it is misfiring or something.
Is anyone else having the popping/misfires from the new exhaust?

When my bike is slow down to make turn . I hit the throttle with 2nd gear I feel like misfire.

 

[Danimal]

I was told to always get one or two bars on the temp before ryding.

The hindle seems to run better with Ken's O2 sensor installed......

 

[bjt]

The hindle seems to run better with Ken's O2 sensor installed......

When I was talking with Ken at Evoluzion, he told me that his O2 modifier was made for the aftermarket exhausts. It improved the engine performance by making the fuel mixture a little richer. Because of emission requirements and the catalytic converter in the stock exhaust, BRP has the mixture set pretty lean. He also said that you should not use the O2 modifier unless you have an aftermarket exhaust as a richer mixture will damage the catalytic converter in the stock exhaust. Maybe now that I have my Hindle, I may try his O2 modifier.

 

[Lamonster]

When I was talking with Ken at Evoluzion, he told me that his O2 modifier was made for the aftermarket exhausts. It improved the engine performance by making the fuel mixture a little richer. Because of emission requirements and the catalytic converter in the stock exhaust, BRP has the mixture set pretty lean. He also said that you should not use the O2 modifier unless you have an aftermarket exhaust as a richer mixture will damage the catalytic converter in the stock exhaust. Maybe now that I have my Hindle, I may try his O2 modifier.

I have Ken's O2 modifier on my bike now and I'm on the fence as to if it's running any better with it. When we get Ron's 90 we are going to run his without to see if my bike runs better or not. Right now I'm not convinced that it is. Ken said that the computer can take as much as 200 miles to learn the fuel/air and dial itself in. I found that my bike had sort of a flat spot or stumble when it was cold but after 150 miles or so it started to run great. I went ahead and put the O2 modifier in anyway and it's really not running any better than it was when it smoothed itself out.

The good news is Ken will refund your money if you're not happy with it. I'll know for sure after we put some miles on Ron's pipe without it. :doorag:

 

[bjt]

I guess I'll keep my eyes on this and possibly save myself $90 or the hassle of sending something back for a refund.
:spyder:

 

[1BlackWidow]

You guys are awesome...always quick with advise and information.
To answer some of your questions, yes, the bike had generally been warmed up, and the temp has been around 60 or above.
Lamonster, I make take heed due to your comments and wait to see if it irons itself out before spending the money on the O2 sensor. Its not really too too bad, just kinda annoying at this point.
Keep the comments and advise coming!

Thanks guys~ and hopefully i will see some of you in Myrtle Beach Friday~ look for the Black/Silver Spyder with the Black Widow on the front hood!

 

[matusky]

:agree: I just have the stock exhaust for now, planning on getting the Hindle (any suggestions on where to get the best price, delivered to my house??).......

The Spyder DEFINITELY likes to be warmed up first.... if not it needs some throttle to get going... maybe it's still breaking in and things are tight?? :dontknow:

 

[Danimal]

Good point about the computer 'learning' the new settings. I've had cars that were the same way. The car would actually 'learn' your driving habits and change the mixture, as well as the shifting patterns(automatic) depending on how you drive.

So regardless of the o2 sensor change, the computer onboard may take some time to adjust to having the Hindle on.

Makes sense to me.

Another problem with the stock units (and all) catalytic converters.. they don't work until they get to a certain temp. This has caused a problem with some people wanting to run E85 in their cars... they don't run quite hot enough (soon enough) to work properly... so the car would run like crap unti warmed up.


Damn Al Gore !!

Only way he is getting my Hindle is from my COLD DEAD HANDS ! ;D

 

[dbnc]

No problems whatsoever with my hindle at all.. It has never backfired and so far it doesn't matter if it is 20 degrees or 80 degrees outside.. It is as quiet as a baby sleeping at night..

Oh yeah it's sitting on my work table waiting for my :spyder: to arrive.... lol

Great info and can't wait to get my spyder to go with my hindle...

 

[Lamonster]

it is real easy to test - just unplug it and plug the stock o2 sensor back in. typically it is much easier to notice an instant power loss as opposed to a power gain. also, did you disconnect the bateery when you installed the modifier? if not, the computer will gradually richen up (hence the need to run for a couple hundred miles). by disconnecting the battery for a while (15-20 minutes) it will erase the old "learning" and allow the bike to run better right away.

Just read the instuctions again to make sure I didn't miss the "disconnect the battery" part, it's not there and no I didn't disconnect the battery. :dontknow:

I think I'll still wait to see how Ron's Spyder runs first and go from there. :doorag:

 

[Oxblood]

One of my friends replaced the stock exhaust on his SV1000. He neglected to remap and rejet, and now his exhaust shoots flames when he boosts the throttle in first. :a20:

 

[trumphair]

I've had my Hindle on a few days now and today I got a couple pops while in 2nd gear (engine was nice and warmed up). I'm running stock everything else right now. Anybody have any more comments as to how beneficial the o2 modifier is?

 

[Danimal]

Try unplugging your battery for 1/2 hour and then give it a few days and see if things change.

I have the o2 modifier on mine now and it works as advertised.... no problems at all.