Many New High end Motorcycles now provide similar Nanny functionality as the Spyder.

[Derek Paisley]

I was checking out some of the new 2014 motorcycles and noticed more and more, these modern conventional motorcycles are now designed with similar safety protocols. Such as traction control, abs breaks etc. For example the new 2014 Yamaha R1. It comes with an interface in which you can select up to 4 or 5 scenarios which reflect how aggressive/soon the on board nanny kicks in. There is also an option to disable it completely.

I've not been following current 2 wheeled MC's in terms of on board technology, so I am uncertain if in BRP has led the way in this regard.


For those who are better educated in the arts of the MC :> , is this in fact the case? Has BRP been the frontrunner in safety protocols in the MC class?

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[boborgera]

For those who are better educated in the arts of the MC :> , is this in fact the case? Has BRP been the frontrunner in safety protocols in the MC class?

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No, some of that stuff has been around for quite some time,

Also the interface is not a nanny' all that does i limit the amount of power to the rear wheel via the fuel mapping/Injectors... You can almost call it driver controlled traction control...

 

[spydercatjohn]

BRP to their credit has been the first to adapt automotive safety technology to the Spyder on a large scale. But other brands are doing so as well to a limited extent.

 

[Bob Denman]

I'm pretty sure that Bosch was brought on board to help with making the Spyder possible... BRP was having trouble getting the required stability out of the platform... :shocked:
It almost sounds to me as if these "enhancements" are now being used as marketing tools in the two-wheeling community... :shocked:

 

[Chupaca]

Have to agree..!!

:agree: worked with bosh for many years..great outfit..!! :thumbup:

 

[cuznjohn]

bmw

my 2012 bmw k 1600 had all the bells and whistles that were mentioned, 3 preset driving modes, preset modes for i up or 2 up and also for luggage weight there was so many i forget but once i found the right mode for me i just left it alone. i did use the rain mode once but other than that just give me a bike and let me ride

 

[ARtraveler]

It's a regular candy store for motorcycle buyers lately. Lots of new models and innovations. Many now have the "selectable" transmissions for different road conditions. I still get Rider magazine and the last couple issues have had me drooling over some models. PS--Indian is back at $19,999 for the Chiefton. No road tests yet--but I am guessing next month's issue.

 

[CurtG]

A bulletin (I forget the source) I read a few weeks back had an article about the major motorcycle safety groups asking the NHTSA(?) to mandate ABS brakes on all motorcycle after a date to be determined. So it's probably coming to all the bikes.

On a similar note has anybody else noticed how many of the 2014 cages are coming equipped with devices to let the drivers pay even less attention to their surroundings :shocked: or is it just the cynic in me ?

Ride and ride safe,

 

[Bob Denman]

I've noticed it; and don't like it much! :gaah:

 

[NancysToy]

On a similar note has anybody else noticed how many of the 2014 cages are coming equipped with devices to let the drivers pay even less attention to their surroundings :shocked: or is it just the cynic in me ?

It is not the cynic in you. It has resulted in even less attention paid to driving, and has encouraged some horridly bad driving habits. It's beginning to scare the bejeebers out of me every time I hit the freeway. I used to kid that power brakes were responsible for the huge increase in tailgaters (along with NASCAR coverage on TV). Now we have to add cruise control, interactive displays, power everyything, cell phones, ear buds, and even the requirements that the kids ride in the back seat (safer for the kid, distracting for Mom). Instead of cages, maybe they should be called cocoons?

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now. I have disabled that button you just pushed. :roflblack:

 

[Flanker]

BRP to their credit has been the first to adapt automotive safety technology to the Spyder on a large scale. But other brands are doing so as well to a limited extent.

Given that we can't switch any of this electronic crap off: I don't know as I'd use the phrase "to their credit". It's nice to have under certain circumstances, but if I could shut it off; 95 +% of my riding would be with all three systems off. For that matter, I'd really prefer independent front and rear braking systems, I can modulate my self. All this electronic marvelry has the primary purpose of insulating the manufacturer from frivolous harassing lawsuits by all too many consumers who prefer to not actively engage in the act of driving/riding, or maintain superior driving skills. It does improve safety under some conditions, however, as we have all witnessed, watched, or read about; it can be (and is frequently) defeated by dedicated morons everywhere. It would be nice if Can Am offered at least one of RS models with defeatable systems (even if we had to sign waivers acknowledging that we buyers were GASP running a modicum of extra risk.................shudder.............cringe...........shiver me timbers!). BTW: I do like the feature of selectable ignition/fuel maps (ala the 2014 ZX14 and others); as one of those is always a "no whiners allowed" mode!

 

[boborgera]

[QUOTE=CurtG;684233]A bulletin (I forget the source) I read a few weeks back had an article about the major motorcycle safety groups asking the NHTSA(?) to mandate ABS brakes on all motorcycle after a date to be determined. So it's probably coming to all the bikes.

On a similar note has anybody else noticed how many of the 2014 cages are coming equipped with devices to let the drivers pay even less attention to their surroundings :shocked: or is it just the cynic in me ?

Ride and ride safe,
[/QUOTE]

The European equivalent of NHTSA, is going to if they haven't already mandate ABS for all bikes..So that will carry over here also...
And as far as distracting devices, Go they're adding them to bikes and trikes also, And the Spyder is no exception....

 

[GeoffCee]

Despite all the technical aids to driving perfection, this morning in Medway, Kent there was a 130 vehicle pile up (including some bikes), in dense fog on a 2-lane highway. No fatalities but some serious injuries requiring hospitalization. When there is fog about I react by slowing down so that I can stop within the distance I can see. I can only assume some drivers were never made aware of this simple safety technique when they were being taught how to drive. :shocked:

 

[Doktor]

Mixed emotions about the Honda Goldwing with the airbag, the video they had when they first listed them as an option showed, to me, anyway, that it launched the driver higher, thus a longer trajectory before they hit the pavement.
I've been trying to decide how far out into the state of North Dakota I will have to move before I can get away from the new crash avoidance vehicles, why has the driving population permitted the stupid population to hide behind idiot proofing their vehicles in order to further enable them to get acquitted of not knowing how to drive in the courtroom. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


Doc

 

[boborgera]

Despite all the technical aids to driving perfection, this morning in Medway, Kent there was a 130 vehicle pile up (including some bikes), in dense fog on a 2-lane highway. No fatalities but some serious injuries requiring hospitalization. When there is fog about I react by slowing down so that I can stop within the distance I can see. I can only assume some drivers were never made aware of this simple safety technique when they were being taught how to drive. :shocked:

What! slow down in dense fog are you mad!, Most drivers would just go faster.
So they can get out of the fog sooner....


:joke:

 

[Michael211_2000]

....why has the driving population permitted the stupid population to hide behind idiot proofing their vehicles in order to further enable them to get acquitted of not knowing how to drive in the courtroom.
Doc

Well the more you idiot-proof society the more idiots you end up with this seems totally obvious to me.

They haven't found a way to idiot-proof curves yet though (I live down a nice curvy road, the ditches and trees along it are constantly being torn up by idiots running right off the perfectly obvious curves in this road... it tickles me to no end!).
We need more curvy roads, it'd help to weed-out the idiot drivers in our midst I tell ya! :yes:Better they hit a deep ditch and flip over, or wrap themselves around a tree trunk, than running over ME! :yikes:

ps. Why is it people who have drunk-driving convictions are allowed to keep their automobiles? What is the possible reason for this? Felon's aren't allowed to have guns, so why are DUI'ers allowed to have automobiles? IDK! :cus:

- Michael

 

[daltmeyer]

... BRP was having trouble getting the required stability out of the platform... :shocked:

I find that hard to believe as my 09 rs has never had the nanny correct my driving and Ive had it on some spirited rides on many twisted roads such as The Devils Triangle for example. No stability issues and no nanny. 10,000 miles since Feb and no nanny. Dragon, Rattler, Snake, etc no nanny and some of these in absolutely pouring rain. Its stable IMO.

 

[Bob Denman]

That little tidbit was told to me by a guy who worked for the subcontractor that designed the front suspension for the Spyder... nojoke

 

[sledmaster]

Seriously?

That little tidbit was told to me by a guy who worked for the subcontractor that designed the front suspension for the Spyder... nojoke

Bob, You can't be serious?

 

[daltmeyer]

Yeah he is. I just talked to another guy that worked with the guy Bob talked with and they were actually going to just add another wheel since the extra wheel wasnt enough for this deathtrap. But then someone said to just add the computer systems instead and the rest is history.