SpyderAnn01
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What model are you looking at? The pull on the RT is simple but I have heard that the 15 F3 was very hard to pull but that it was changed in 16.
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Manual Or Semi-Auto?
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What model are you looking at? The pull on the RT is simple but I have heard that the 15 F3 was very hard to pull but that it was changed in 16.
Kingsqueak
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CA Railwhale
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I had the same issue, it's been forty years since I rode and I took the bike back to the dealer top have a mechanic check to see if the neutral trouble is normal. He said it felt OK, but that Spyder trannys are "tender" finding neutral. I thought it was just me.
Old folks need Semi-Auto.... LOL
Having ridden some on two wheels, and now at age 74 decided this was not a great idea anymore, and having had a manual 996 Spyder years ago, I drifted off to my local dealer. First issue was the rather difficult clutch pull with arthritic hands.... thus, the semi-auto was my decision.
Now with over 100 miles on the new one, wow, great trike, easy to drive, no real concerns with the auto, and a challenge to get the transmission shifting by matching revs and having a totally silent, perfectly smooth shift both up and down.
I once rode with an individual who had won a Moto GP (not what it was called in those days) race in the 1960's and the manually shifted car was driven so smoothly if I closed my eyes it was like a CVT, so flawlessly driven. This is my goal with the semi-auto on the Roadster.
I can see no downside, except the extra tariff.
Having ridden some on two wheels, and now at age 74 decided this was not a great idea anymore, and having had a manual 996 Spyder years ago, I drifted off to my local dealer. First issue was the rather difficult clutch pull with arthritic hands.... thus, the semi-auto was my decision.
Now with over 100 miles on the new one, wow, great trike, easy to drive, no real concerns with the auto, and a challenge to get the transmission shifting by matching revs and having a totally silent, perfectly smooth shift both up and down.
I once rode with an individual who had won a Moto GP (not what it was called in those days) race in the 1960's and the manually shifted car was driven so smoothly if I closed my eyes it was like a CVT, so flawlessly driven. This is my goal with the semi-auto on the Roadster.
I can see no downside, except the extra tariff.
vondalyn
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the semi-auto is just a paddle shifter, you can downshift with it just like a manual and have full control just like you would with a clutch. The only time I let it downshift for me is in a panic stop.
SpyderHands
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SE6 for us and we have zero regrets.
Enjoy!!!
Enjoy!!!
Grumbles13
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Bought manual on purpose. Tried a semi-auto, but didn't like it. Guess I just want complete control over the shifting.
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:hun: If you're smart enough, you can use those + & - buttons under the left handgrip & get just that!?! :shocked:
It's only the clutch that's centrifugal!
Control with "auto"
This morning, happened to find myself behind a new Corvette,,,, the one with four pipes in back, looks sleek.... He lit up the tires for about 50 feet, went on up the road. He actually did not come out of the hole quickly, but with lots of show....
Next intersection, we are now side by side. Light green, I simply twisted the throttle a good bit, smoked the rear for thirty feet, but the Roadster came out of the hole like a rocket.
So, maybe I need to understand that the new motor, semi-auto trans, needs some degree of moderation in regards to throttle position at the start. Interestingly enough, my old Spyder never slipped the rear wheel...
Now I am wondering how quick the new one is if I take it out of ECO mode. But, as to control, I think the semi-auto gives me more control. Maybe the shifts are a bit slower, computer wants things softer than upshifting with no clutch. But, the bike still performs, and I think I like it better than having my left hand on the clutch.
One other advantage... when looking into the sun, I now have a left hand free to block the sun from my eyes.
This morning, happened to find myself behind a new Corvette,,,, the one with four pipes in back, looks sleek.... He lit up the tires for about 50 feet, went on up the road. He actually did not come out of the hole quickly, but with lots of show....
Next intersection, we are now side by side. Light green, I simply twisted the throttle a good bit, smoked the rear for thirty feet, but the Roadster came out of the hole like a rocket.
So, maybe I need to understand that the new motor, semi-auto trans, needs some degree of moderation in regards to throttle position at the start. Interestingly enough, my old Spyder never slipped the rear wheel...
Now I am wondering how quick the new one is if I take it out of ECO mode. But, as to control, I think the semi-auto gives me more control. Maybe the shifts are a bit slower, computer wants things softer than upshifting with no clutch. But, the bike still performs, and I think I like it better than having my left hand on the clutch.
One other advantage... when looking into the sun, I now have a left hand free to block the sun from my eyes.
Is anyone here?
Whatever, after about 2000 miles on my semi-auto F3 Ltd SS, I can say that this transmission is IMO by far superior to manual. The shifting is at the level of the PDK Porsche transmission and shifting is as quick as on a race bike, i.e., upshifting with virtually no clutch.
And, for those with some age on us, arthritis which can make pulling a clutch lever very tiring, the semi-auto is really nice. This is especially true at traffic stops when one has to be ready to go when the light turns green, sometimes waiting with clutch released for several seconds.
So, even if no one is listening.....
Whatever, after about 2000 miles on my semi-auto F3 Ltd SS, I can say that this transmission is IMO by far superior to manual. The shifting is at the level of the PDK Porsche transmission and shifting is as quick as on a race bike, i.e., upshifting with virtually no clutch.
And, for those with some age on us, arthritis which can make pulling a clutch lever very tiring, the semi-auto is really nice. This is especially true at traffic stops when one has to be ready to go when the light turns green, sometimes waiting with clutch released for several seconds.
So, even if no one is listening.....
JimVonBaden
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Same here. Our Spyder will be a commuter in heavy traffic, so the SE is pretty awesome for that. If it were for sporty rides and touring, the manual would be our choice.
d.o.spyder-rts
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Semi-auto on my current spyder and my previous '12 RTS. I still usually downshift but occasionally let it downshift "automatically" to be sure it is working properly. Dale
Cost of semi automatic
In all the pricing I can see, the semi automatic is $1500 retail. With skillful negotiation this can be reduced more often than not.
For younger folks, i.e., less than 70 years old, the manual would be the way to go. But, if one has some of the consequences of growing older, being able to release the clutch may not be possible.
Oh, yes, I almost always downshift manually, unless it is just a coast up to a stop sign, no traffic. Also, as I am running essentially an open exhaust, the crackle on throttle closing is really very nice.
FYI, I run my motor between 3000 and 7500 rpm, rarely allowing the engine to pull below 3000.
In all the pricing I can see, the semi automatic is $1500 retail. With skillful negotiation this can be reduced more often than not.
For younger folks, i.e., less than 70 years old, the manual would be the way to go. But, if one has some of the consequences of growing older, being able to release the clutch may not be possible.
Oh, yes, I almost always downshift manually, unless it is just a coast up to a stop sign, no traffic. Also, as I am running essentially an open exhaust, the crackle on throttle closing is really very nice.
FYI, I run my motor between 3000 and 7500 rpm, rarely allowing the engine to pull below 3000.
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rustynail51
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don't miss it
don't miss the clutch lever at all in fact glad it isn't there, thought I might but I was wrong
don't miss the clutch lever at all in fact glad it isn't there, thought I might but I was wrong
Bob Denman
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They're all good...
It comes down to what you like the most! :thumbup:
It comes down to what you like the most! :thumbup:
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