Limp mode = close to death encounter

[ChasingWind]

WtF was BRP thinking to drop you down to 35 mph because of some stupid computer glitch -

41000+ miles finally experienced limp mode on my way back from neah bay WA this is a narrow two lane windy highway with many blind corner full of logging trucks overloaded trucks towing monster fishing boats going as fast as I can on my spyder - basically hawling ass -- when all the sudden boom syder cut out and dropped to 35 - this is not safe and I don't know how somebody hasn't been killed -- I had logging truck come fly up from blind curves to find me limping along and fly by me - no chance they could of stopped - lucky no other trucks coming the other way .....

Finally found a place to pull off - pulled the stupid fuse - which defeats the limp mode but still gives you the DPS messages and you loose power steering but at least I can get out of the middle of now where ( no cell service) at a safe speed

Later on in the evening I noticed my running lights out - pulled over put new fuse in running light area and lights back on but noticed a blown brake light out ...

Replaced brake light have not had no issues-- ridden three days now - so if you blow a bulb it causes limp mode -- ?

BRP needs to disable limp mode before it kills somebody - this I the most unsafe condition to put a rider in that I can think of. To go from 50-60 in traffic and all the be force to 30 is crazy stupid.

What is BRP thinking?


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[sjcpanther]

Very good point. I agree completely. I had my first limp mode last week. Fortunately it occurred in an area where not much traffic was in. I was able to pull off the road at the next driveway. It just slowed down. I didn't know what to expect.

Glad you weren't hit. That's a dangerous place to have it happen.

I thought at the time it was dangerous. BRP should give us a way to disable limp mode in cases like this.

 

[ARtraveler]

I also had this happen one time on the highway. Went into limp mode because I was riding the brake. Was in the far right lane, so able to pull off to the shoulder immediately. Could definately be a problem if someone was tailgateing you or you were in a place where you could not turn off quickly.

 

[boborgera]

I had a brake light go out on my Dodge truck once, A light on the dash went on with a one time beep. The light stays on With a warning ; Bulb out, No limp mode, no slowdown that's the way it should be on all vehicles..

 

[Pennyrick]

This isn't unique to BRP products.

I owned a 2005 Thunderbird and they were notorious for failed Coil Packs. Once one was on its' way out the car would go into limp mode and cut you back to 2,000-2,500 rpm. Happened once while in traffic at about 75 mph and I just had to let it coast down and pull over when I had the chance.

Going into limp mode is no different to me than losing power any number of reasons.... out of gas, loss of ignition, transmission trouble in any vehicle. You slow down (maybe not by choice) and wait 'til it's clear and pull over.

Why pick on BRP, lots of manufacturers have this feature to protect the product.

Drivers always need to be alert for vehicles that are stopped or disabled for any number of reasons.

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: That they could assign priorities to the various issues that happen, and then have the bike react in an appropriate manner...
Let's face; a blown bulb is way different than a loss of oil pressure, overheating, or having no brake fluid left to play with! :yikes:

 

[scooterexpress]

Brp had updates out for limp mode if traveling at a high rate of speed was only to drop you to 60mph and if you were going slower ithink its like 40-50.you might want to check with your dealer for a buds update for this all came about due to throttle bodys going out.

 

[NancysToy]

Yes, if you blow the brake light bulb(s) it will cause limp mode. Limp mode has been modified (2012) to make it safer and less severe. You should run your Spyder by the dealer and have the firmware updated to the latest version.

 

[Bob Denman]

Thanks; I didn't know that there were some updates on these issues! :thumbup:

 

[Chupaca]

Have to agree..!!

there could be a need to re-evaluate the reasons for limp mode. But on the other hand the complaints might be worse if your engine blows, you loose steering control or have no brakes...do hope they look into it..!!:dontknow:

 

[ChasingWind]

You should never go into limp mode over a light bulb out - period! Even if they are all out --- matter a fact I don't see one issue where I'm doing 50 75 mph legally that I should be dropped to 35mph put the warning up like 99% of vehicles do/ and let the driver make a safe exit.

Limp Mode will cause someone to get hurt - its just amateur of time - and it's preventable by BRP

Strong words I know, but had a very close encounter w a few logging trucks and I don't think my spider would of won that fight!


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[ChasingWind]

Double tree: give me a break you a idiot maybe your the reason BRP has a limp mode-- this was not an engine problem or coil or brake issue - it's was a blown brake light only 1 at that still had a good one -

I'm not picking on BRP I'm expressing my experience - I ride my spider daily, and love it.

I'm expressing a big safety fault that BRP needs to re - evaluate their limp mode before someone get seriously hurt - its just programming, not that hard


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[ChasingWind]

And thank you Nacy for info as far as I know I'm up to date but going to dealer right now to get buds checked out


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[ChasingWind]

I did not mean it to be helpful - idiot wasn't my first choice of words - if your gonna comment on some else's post and call them out - then you better expect a comment back


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[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Double tree: give me a break you a idiot maybe your the reason BRP has a limp mode-- this was not an engine problem or coil or brake issue - it's was a blown brake light only 1 at that still had a good one -

I'm not picking on BRP I'm expressing my experience - I ride my spider daily, and love it.

I'm expressing a big safety fault that BRP needs to re - evaluate their limp mode before someone get seriously hurt - its just programming, not that hard


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Chasing Wind I'm with you 110% but I think you meant to address DOUBLE TROUBLE ......:thumbup:....Mike

 

[ChasingWind]

Thanks for correcting me

On another notes what pain to change out a brake bulb lol


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[Marker]

This isn't unique to BRP products.

I owned a 2005 Thunderbird and they were notorious for failed Coil Packs. Once one was on its' way out the car would go into limp mode and cut you back to 2,000-2,500 rpm. Happened once while in traffic at about 75 mph and I just had to let it coast down and pull over when I had the chance.

Going into limp mode is no different to me than losing power any number of reasons.... out of gas, loss of ignition, transmission trouble in any vehicle. You slow down (maybe not by choice) and wait 'til it's clear and pull over.

Why pick on BRP, lots of manufacturers have this feature to protect the product.

Drivers always need to be alert for vehicles that are stopped or disabled for any number of reasons.

While travelling on the New York Interstate two weeks ago, my 2010 Spyder went into limp mode over a DPS fault at 75mph. This was the first experience I had with limp mode, I did not panic immediately put on my four way flashers and started pulling over to the shoulder of the highway. . I stopped turned off the spyder explained to my wife what needed to be done . I walked with my key in hand about 100FT up the highway and stood there for a few minuted until the spyder reset itself. Which it did not do the first time so I did it again and this time it worked. The most frustrating part about it was that we were traveling with a group that do not use CB so had too limp the spyder up interstate to them to reset spyder the second time. The spyder does not decelerate that fast that you cannot pull over safely but I can see the point that you need a safe spot to get out of the way of the traffic. I dont mean to be a fence sitter but I agree with both points made.

 

[SpyderAnn01]

You definitely need to get your Spyder on Buds to be sure you have the latest update. Also, all Spyder riders should know what to expect if their Spyder goes into Limp Mode and they should be prepared to immediately put on their emergency flashers and then to turn the key on and off which will generally make the Limp Mode go away. Practice this and if and when you go into Limp Mode you will know how to safely handle the situation

 

[reverendg]

On older European mopeds the ignition was routed through the brake light...if your brake light was burned out the engine quit whenever you stopped, and would miss (no spark) if you were moving and used the brakes to slow down. It was a reminder to fix the brake light.

 

[ChasingWind]

Goods points but there was no shoulder no safe place to just pull over this is a very busy highway that is tight with blind curve after curve - why do think I was riding it hour an half from nowhere - luckily pulling the fuse defeated limp mode because I did not want to have it reset then do it again and get ran over by a logging truck fully loaded on highway that barely wide enough for them to pass each other -

Just a reminder if you haven't had it happen take some of theses notes and hopefully you'll know what do.

And it turns out you can talk about it!


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