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Leaning 3 Wheeler

These bikes are variations on their "Tesseract" Quad from about 10 years ago... :thumbup:
It's nice to see that they're making some progress!
 
Nice. I like that a lot. Wonder what is under the fairing/how the forks are connected. Also wonder if the suspension will be squishy like is reported on the FZ/MT09. Look forward to more and a price point.
 
cmbspyderrss said:
Nice. I like that a lot. Wonder what is under the fairing/how the forks are connected. Also wonder if the suspension will be squishy like is reported on the FZ/MT09. Look forward to more and a price point.
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Suspension got fixed on the FZ in 2017, they adopted what they put on the XSR900, works just fine now.

That said, the suspension for this won't be anything like the FZ/MT/XSR, for the obvious reasons.

Personally: this is what BRP should have put out a couple of years ago instead of only doubling-down on the static trike design. I loved my Spyder, I'd love another Spyder someday, but it's undeniable that a leaning reverse trike from a big OEM would appeal to a wider audience of pre-existing riders than a trike that doesn't lean. Glad the tech's finally caught up.
 
daveinva said:
Suspension got fixed on the FZ in 2017, they adopted what they put on the XSR900, works just fine now.

That said, the suspension for this won't be anything like the FZ/MT/XSR, for the obvious reasons.

Personally: this is what BRP should have put out a couple of years ago instead of only doubling-down on the static trike design. I loved my Spyder, I'd love another Spyder someday, but it's undeniable that a leaning reverse trike from a big OEM would appeal to a wider audience of pre-existing riders than a trike that doesn't lean. Glad the tech's finally caught up.
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Why not combine the bulkiness of a Trike, and the "Tipoverabilty" of a two-wheeler? :roflblack:
 
Bob Denman said:
Why not combine the bulkiness of a Trike, and the "Tipoverabilty" of a two-wheeler? :roflblack:
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Why not combine the maneuverability of a two-wheeler, with the corner stability of a trike? This is a fun game, Bob! :roflblack:

I have no doubt that the Spyder will continue to have its success. But while I was a happy owner of a Spyder for a very long time, I'm not going to pretend that there weren't a LOT of people out there (read forums other than SL, or visit any non-Spyder rally) who took one look at the Spyder-- or one demo ride on the Spyder-- and were turned off simply because they didn't want to give up the sensation of two wheels in exchange for three.

IME, while BRP desperately wants to sell Spyders to the young and beautiful new rider crowd (look at any of their ads), the largest Spyder demographic remains people who for age/medical reasons would either buy another trike, or give up riding altogether. Given the success of the Piaggio MP3 (not in America, but scooters aren't big here-- you can't walk a block in Europe without running into an MP3), there's obviously a market for leaning trikes. This Yamaha and others like it (e.g. Honda Neowing concept) offers a choice to those who would prefer most of the advantages of a Spyder with the fewest compromises of one. It doesn't hurt that something like this doesn't come with the image of the retired rally-hopping Spyder owner with a bum knee (a stereotype to be sure, but one that's prevalent out in the real world, fairly or not).

Anyway... *if* Yamaha doesn't just sell this overseas but brings it to North America, we'll have an interesting experiment in the marketplace to see how popular something like this is. I guarantee that BRP is watching intently to see if it makes business sense to finally offer a leaning Spyder in their lineup.

P.S. All things aside, I just love that Yammy put their triple into this thing... that engine is the best thing about my XSR, it's such a wonderful mill.
 
tilting motor works

daveinva said:
Why not combine the maneuverability of a two-wheeler, with the corner stability of a trike? This is a fun game, Bob! :roflblack:

I have no doubt that the Spyder will continue to have its success. But while I was a happy owner of a Spyder for a very long time, I'm not going to pretend that there weren't a LOT of people out there (read forums other than SL, or visit any non-Spyder rally) who took one look at the Spyder-- or one demo ride on the Spyder-- and were turned off simply because they didn't want to give up the sensation of two wheels in exchange for three.

IME, while BRP desperately wants to sell Spyders to the young and beautiful new rider crowd (look at any of their ads), the largest Spyder demographic remains people who for age/medical reasons would either buy another trike, or give up riding altogether. Given the success of the Piaggio MP3 (not in America, but scooters aren't big here-- you can't walk a block in Europe without running into an MP3), there's obviously a market for leaning trikes. This Yamaha and others like it (e.g. Honda Neowing concept) offers a choice to those who would prefer most of the advantages of a Spyder with the fewest compromises of one. It doesn't hurt that something like this doesn't come with the image of the retired rally-hopping Spyder owner with a bum knee (a stereotype to be sure, but one that's prevalent out in the real world, fairly or not).

Anyway... *if* Yamaha doesn't just sell this overseas but brings it to North America, we'll have an interesting experiment in the marketplace to see how popular something like this is. I guarantee that BRP is watching intently to see if it makes business sense to finally offer a leaning Spyder in their lineup.

P.S. All things aside, I just love that Yammy put their triple into this thing... that engine is the best thing about my XSR, it's such a wonderful mill.
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http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/
The real father of the invention perse
 
daveinva said:
Why not combine the maneuverability of a two-wheeler, with the corner stability of a trike? This is a fun game, Bob! :roflblack:
P.S. All things aside, I just love that Yammy put their triple into this thing... that engine is the best thing about my XSR, it's such a wonderful mill.
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Glad to hear that you dig that triple! :2thumbs:
:lecturef_smilie: But a tilting trike can be tipped too far... :yikes:
 
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the seating position on this (and most sport bikes) puts the rider in a box behind first base while the passenger sits in a bleacher seat.
I bet they sell quite a few. It is although, aimed at a market very different from the Spyder.
 
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In my opinion a bike like this is exactly what BRP is currently lacking. A sport riding position model with power and performance. I say this without riding the Yammi or the Honda Neowing but if BRP isn't going to provide this then I'm going somewhere else that will.
 
With Yamaha reliability, this maybe a good contender when the F3 gets out of warranty. Probably, almost half the price as well. A better seat will be in order.
 
Youtube video....


Just saw the specs & it's an inline 3 cylinder like the 1330. Full details being released on Nov. 6th.
 
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Competition is a good thing

COMPETITION is a good thing...Looks like a blast to ride...Hopefully this adventure will be the start for many others to follow...larryd
 
Bob Denman said:
Why not combine the bulkiness of a Trike, and the "Tipoverabilty" of a two-wheeler? :roflblack:
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Why do you say that? Is it because you would tip over on a 2 wheel machine? Is that why you ride a Spyder? Nothing wrong with that but it is no reason to put down a more reliable machine that requires more from the rider. David
 
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