Leak from oil filter

[SpyderDon]

Has anyone else had the oil filter leak. I had the 15,000 mile service last week and rode it home, about 30 miles, took another short ride a couple of days later, checked the oil and discovered that it was extremely low, drove it again for a short trip and again it was low, maybe cup or so. Yesterday I had to move it and found a puddle under it so today I took it to the dealer. They put in a new "O" ring and it didn't completely solve the problem. The mechanic thinks the cup is warped, new to me.

 

[Arthur---Mexico]

To me it sounds like an impossible problem. I imagine that the O ring was not correctly placed in its groove. That the cover of the oil filter is warped is beyond my belief. The mechanic who changed your oil must have placed the O ring incorrectly. Check it out yourself. If the O ring was not placed in its groove correctly before its cover was tightened the O ring might be damage and in need of replacement.

 

[wyliec]

The mechanic thinks the cup is warped, new to me.

What did the mechanic suggest be done to your spyder to correct the problem he/she may or may not have caused?

 

[NancysToy]

It could happen, but a damaged O-ring is more likely. The O-ring should be lightly lubricated before installing it.

 

[boborgera]

If by cup you mean oil filter cover, And indeed it is warped then when he tighten it down he tighten one bolt all the way then tighten the other one all the way that will warp it . Many a nimrod cracked the thermostat housing on older cars that way.

 

[BajaRon]

Likelyhood it's the filter cover - 1%

Likelyhood it's a poorly intalled O-Ring - 99%

Likelyhood it's a sloppy install job - 100%

Changing your own oil can be a very rewarding experience for more reasons than just saving money.

 

[CyncySpyder]

Likelyhood it's the filter cover - 1%

Likelyhood it's a poorly intalled O-Ring - 99%

Likelyhood it's a sloppy install job - 100%

Changing your own oil can be a very rewarding experience for more reasons than just saving money.

:agree::agree:

 

[Pandy]

I'm with him

Likelyhood it's the filter cover - 1%

Likelyhood it's a poorly intalled O-Ring - 99%

Likelyhood it's a sloppy install job - 100%

Changing your own oil can be a very rewarding experience for more reasons than just saving money.

All of the above, my first oil change I cleaned up a considerable mess. Not the case now or for the forseeable future. And that's why BR includes a new O ring with each kit.

Patrick

 

[SpyderDon]

I'll just be dipped in doo...just looked under the Spyder....no oil. I thought it was poor to none that it could be the cover but when the service guru tells you it's
the problem you tend to believe him.


Ron, I might just do my own oil changes in the future, yesterday was my first time removing the tupperwear, not as bad as I expected, I just don't enjoy doing mechanical things.

 

[BajaRon]

I'll just be dipped in doo...just looked under the Spyder....no oil. I thought it was poor to none that it could be the cover but when the service guru tells you it's
the problem you tend to believe him.


Ron, I might just do my own oil changes in the future, yesterday was my first time removing the tupperwear, not as bad as I expected, I just don't enjoy doing mechanical things.

Understood, doing your own maintenance isn't for everyone. It's like anything else. When a person enjoys it, he has a hard time understanding why everyone esle does not feel the same way.

But I'm a bit unclear about your findings. Are you saying the oil leak is gone?

 

[boborgera]

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But I'm a bit unclear about your findings. Are you saying the oil leak is gone?

Same here;:dontknow:
And also if it was fixed what did cause the leak?opcorn:
opcorn:

 

[WackyDan]

I had the actual cover go bad/warp... It can happen though I would think it is the O ring first.

 

[BajaRon]

I had the actual cover go bad/warp... It can happen though I would think it is the O ring first.

I think someone else mentioned it but the problem is most likely that one screw is run down and tightened all the way first. With a pressure seal (O-Ring) you want even pressure all the way around. When you tighten 1 bolt down all the way it over compresses the O-Ring in that spot lifting the other side of the cover up too far.

Then when the other bolts are tightened it deforms the O-Ring and if the pressure is too great it can actually deform the cover.

It just takes a bit of common sense. All that is needed is for each bolt to be started and then torqued a little at a time around the perimiter. This compresses the O-Ring evenly and you'll be dry as a bone. Somewhat like wheel lugs.

It really isn't rocket science and it isn't even all that critical. Any fledgling mechanic will know this so for a dealership to produce a problem like this is very disturbing. Either someone was in a big hurry, doesn't know what they are doing or just doesn't care. None of which are acceptable

 

[SpyderDon]

At this time there is no leak. I rode it home yesterday, about 30 miles. This morning no oil puddle, yesterday there was a major puddl;e aftter starting it and running it for about 3-5 min to warm it up so that I could check the level.

Looks to me like the "O" ring did the job. The check was done by one of the service managers, not by the original mechanic.

Time will tell, good excuse to go for a ryde this afternoon.

 

[BajaRon]

At this time there is no leak. I rode it home yesterday, about 30 miles. This morning no oil puddle, yesterday there was a major puddl;e aftter starting it and running it for about 3-5 min to warm it up so that I could check the level.

Looks to me like the "O" ring did the job. The check was done by one of the service managers, not by the original mechanic.

Time will tell, good excuse to go for a ryde this afternoon.

Ok, so you took it back and the dealership re-did the oil filter. That makes sense. Glad it got fixed quickly. Your filter cover must be OK and they probably just replaced the O-Ring and tightened it correctly this time.

All's well that ends well. But I still have to shake my head at this one.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

OIL CHANGE PROBLEMS

I hope they didn't charge you the second time around.....after that cluster f*** they should have refunded you for the first one......:gaah:....:agree:....:yikes:....:roflblack:

 

[MikeinGA]

I think someone else mentioned it but the problem is most likely that one screw is run down and tightened all the way first. With a pressure seal (O-Ring) you want even pressure all the way around. When you tighten 1 bolt down all the way it over compresses the O-Ring in that spot lifting the other side of the cover up too far.

Then when the other bolts are tightened it deforms the O-Ring and if the pressure is too great it can actually deform the cover.

It just takes a bit of common sense. All that is needed is for each bolt to be started and then torqued a little at a time around the perimiter. This compresses the O-Ring evenly and you'll be dry as a bone. Somewhat like wheel lugs.

It really isn't rocket science and it isn't even all that critical. Any fledgling mechanic will know this so for a dealership to produce a problem like this is very disturbing. Either someone was in a big hurry, doesn't know what they are doing or just doesn't care. None of which are acceptable

:agree: The instructions tells you to use a in/lb torque wrench and to tighten evenly.


Mike

 

[MikeinGA]

I hope they didn't charge you the second time around.....after that cluster f*** they should have refunded you for the first one......:gaah:....:agree:....:yikes:....:roflblack:

:agree:

Mike

 

[BajaRon]

:agree: The instructions tells you to use a in/lb torque wrench and to tighten evenly.


Mike

Never have done it that way and I'll bet dealer mechanics don't either. It's not that it's a bad idea, just that it's not necessary.