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Kanine tires not certified by BRP
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billybovine
Active member
This is just my opinion. But who cares if if BRP certified them or not. Is this even a requirement for legal reasons anywhere?
Stache
Member
It can become similar to the ‘darkside’ argument. If you have an issue that the warranty agent can conceivably blame on using a car tire on a motorcycle warranty coverage can get to be a problem. Similarly, if a problem can be blamed on using a ‘non-certified’ tire......
To satisfy my OCD I’d ask BRP IN WRITING whether use of the kanine can affect warranty coverage, and require the response IN WRITING.
To satisfy my OCD I’d ask BRP IN WRITING whether use of the kanine can affect warranty coverage, and require the response IN WRITING.
Firstly, the Rims on all Spyders and Rykers are 'J' type CAR rims, and the Kenda tires from BRP are NOT Motorcycle tires, they have CAR type beads to match the bead profiles on the rims and they have CAR tire construction, even tho BRP has printed some namby pamby made up 'Special Motorcycle' label to cover their arse if someone is stupid enough to fit an OE Spyder Spec Kenda tire on a car, cos the Kendas simply aren't up to it!! Plus, I believe the Kanine's and the OE spec Kendas even have a notice to the effect - 'Fit to 'J' type Rims ONLY' printed somewhere on their sidewalls; and btw, running 'J' type rims on a motorcycle is pretty much verbotten everywhere in the World that motor vehicles &/or motorcycles are required to be registered! :gaah:
And secondly, even if your OCD does call you to ask for something in writing, BRP is only ever going to say you MUST use their over-priced under-spec'd poorly constructed excuse for a CAR tire on all Spyders and Rykers anyway, cos that's where they'll get the most profit, so that's a pointless exercise from the get go! :banghead:
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BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
:agree: X's 10 ..... and the " J " on the tire sidewall is FACT .... so your " belief " is correct..... I have not been able to find the " for special motorcycle use only " .... as a legal designation for a tire listed by U.S. federal D.O.T. regulations !!!! ..... and the wheels BRP puts on all Spyders are stamped " J " type ..... Mike :thumbup:
BajaRon
Well-known member
Since BRP is putting the Kenda Kanine on the newer Spyders. I'd say that's defacto 'Certification' right there. But I also agree with Billy. A manufacturer doesn't have to 'Certify' something for me to use it if I think it appropriate. There are many reasons a manufacturer does not certify a particular product. Sometimes it's to push you into buying their version with inferences to warranty issues. That gets a lot of people, when it really shouldn't.
I've never heard of anyone having a non-certified tire warranty issue. In my opinion, it's a red herring. But an effective one. Just like with oil and other items. Fear (justified or not) can be an effective marking tool.
I've never heard of anyone having a non-certified tire warranty issue. In my opinion, it's a red herring. But an effective one. Just like with oil and other items. Fear (justified or not) can be an effective marking tool.
The reason why I brought this up - in Pa. the dealers will not inspect your bike without tires approved by the manufacturer. In Pa. we need or are supposed to have yearly inspections.
Thanks for the thoguhts.
Jim
billybovine
Active member
That is the first I have heard that BRP is putting the Kanine tire on. I asked the dealer if they sold or would get the Kanine tire. They said no. That was in May.
PS I just checked Kendas website and state specifically that it is aftermarket. But they also say it is the first and only aftermarket tire for the Can Am Spyder. Well that's not true. Arachnids were first and still available.
TXGreatRide
New member
My brand new 2020 Spyder RTL equipped with Kenda Radial, not Kanine.
Raprider
New member
I kind of figured this was your concern, being in NJ close to PA. Fortunately, NJ no longer (for about 10 years now) requires motorcycles to be inspected.
I purchased my ST from a dealer in PA, and had asked about eventually mounting non-Kenda tires...they told me they would do it without any reservations, though I would probably have to bring the tires.
I would try other dealers. Or see about possible inspection facilities that are not at a dealer.
Good luck!
I purchased my ST from a dealer in PA, and had asked about eventually mounting non-Kenda tires...they told me they would do it without any reservations, though I would probably have to bring the tires.
I would try other dealers. Or see about possible inspection facilities that are not at a dealer.
Good luck!
trong
New member
"BRP Approved" means you're going to pay more MONEY for less QUALITY.
I just use comparable sizes and good quality tires for my money. I got 2 Federal Formosa tires for the front and a Kumho Esta for the rear from Amazon for less than $200. I called my dealer and they said it would cost $65 to mount each front tire -off the Spyder- since they're not OEM tires. Discount Tire charged me $21 to mount and balance each. Money well spent there.
Cheers.
I just use comparable sizes and good quality tires for my money. I got 2 Federal Formosa tires for the front and a Kumho Esta for the rear from Amazon for less than $200. I called my dealer and they said it would cost $65 to mount each front tire -off the Spyder- since they're not OEM tires. Discount Tire charged me $21 to mount and balance each. Money well spent there.
Cheers.
Highwayman2013
New member
Sorry but I lived in PA until 2014, ran car tires had my Spyder inspected. Never a problem. All they looked at was how much tread was on the tires. RED HERRING!
Highwayman2013
New member
Never had that problem when I lived in Pa. I went to independent shops for motorcycle inspections. Sounds like your dealer is telling a story.
Peteoz
Well-known member
The big question for me is - WILL my dealer fit Kanines?
If they won’t then I won’t even consider Kanines and will keep mounting “car” tyres myself. (But I would rather NOT do it myself if I can avoid it).
However, if my dealer WILL fit Kanines, (they won’t currently fit “car” tyres), then I will start looking at the reviews on the Kanines.
I couldn’t care less if they have been certified by BRP per se, but if they haven’t, I believe there is a strong chance that those dealers who won’t fit “car” tyres won’t fit the Kanines either.
Pete
If they won’t then I won’t even consider Kanines and will keep mounting “car” tyres myself. (But I would rather NOT do it myself if I can avoid it).
However, if my dealer WILL fit Kanines, (they won’t currently fit “car” tyres), then I will start looking at the reviews on the Kanines.
I couldn’t care less if they have been certified by BRP per se, but if they haven’t, I believe there is a strong chance that those dealers who won’t fit “car” tyres won’t fit the Kanines either.
Pete
Peteoz
Well-known member
Sort of, Mikey
.....but this is a bit different to the usual threads as the Kanines do have the “possibility” of being fitted by dealers.:thumbup:Pete
trikermutha
New member
Would the D.O.T number not be enough that is stamped on the tire as a legal designation? Or are you referring to For Special Motorcycle use only term?
I think that was just put on the tire to not mount it on a car wheel or use it on a car as some most likely would do.
Legally there is nothing BRP can say or do. However you should be aware that if you are in an accident you could be held liable for not using the recommended tire or advertised replacement for that rim. And be found at fault for the accident even if it was obviously the other persons fault.
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