JUST READ THIS

[Easy Rider]

if we really want to see Spyders thrive, not just survive, we need to help them out, not be constantly critical of their engineering and marketing efforts I think.

It sounds an awful lot like you are saying that present owners should lie or candy coat the truth.
I don't agree with that at all.

When their engineering or marketing or service comes up to where it meets the owners expectations, praise will follow.
The tail does not wag the dog.

I briefly had an '11 RT and HATED IT.....mostly because the dealer was blowing smoke up my butt, constantly telling me it was fine when it was NOT.
Now I have a brand new '17 and love it.
Once I get a problem figured out with the CB, I will have pretty much nothing to complain about.

 

[Kwalsh]

All I know is there is no market for an older gs/rs now, the prices are dropping like rocks and there is no chance at a private sale, I have been trying to sell mine to upgrade for a year and now I have decided to ride it till it dies because I will not get my money back out of a new one if I buy it

 

[safecracker]

My local dealer has had a great year so far selling Spyders. Up here on the Cabot Trail we have seen 15 Spyders so far in 2 days. We have had a number of bike riders ask us about our Spyder. Alot of them are seriously thinking about buying one in the very near future. Just my observations. Bruce

 

[oldguyinTX]

All I know is there is no market for an older gs/rs now, the prices are dropping like rocks and there is no chance at a private sale, I have been trying to sell mine to upgrade for a year and now I have decided to ride it till it dies because I will not get my money back out of a new one if I buy it

Let's face it, none of us will ever be able to sell our Spyders for what we would want to get for them. Especially the '13 RT's, which you can't give away. But, the same holds true for just about any car, truck, motorcycle, etc. As soon as the salesman hands you the keys, the vehicle has depreciated by an average of 30%. If you paid $30k for a car five years ago, and wanted to sell it today for $25k, there is no way you would ever get that. So, you're stuck with it until you decide that, well, maybe $12k is good enough. Point is, you never get back what you put into any vehicle,

 

[UtahPete]

It sounds an awful lot like you are saying that present owners should lie or candy coat the truth.
I don't agree with that at all.

No, I'm not saying that. Would never suggest being dishonest or disingenuous.

 

[Motorcycledave]

It's only my opinion.......

First, if there is a down turn in sales it may be a regional thing, I think some dealers are
more interested in selling Side by side and water craft and they got stuck with selling Spyders.
There are only 2 dealers in my area one is an all out motorcycle dealer that also sells and services Spyders, the other you would have a hard time finding a spyder there because they are all surrounded by boats, other water craft and side by side units, if you didn't know they were a dealer for them you would not know by driving by.
It in my opinion is the dealers fault for not marketing them correctly, the profit margin I am sure is as good or in some cases better than any other motorcycle type product.
SERVICE that seems to be a dirty word, I have owned over 30 motorcycles in my 75
years of life, all brands you all know and not one of them ever cost me $250+ dollars to get an
oil change, I have a 1 ton dully shop truck with a 460 V8 and I can get about 7 oil changes on it
for that amount. The repair and maintenance costs are more than others, There are not enough
trained service personal in house when you go in for work, that is I am sure part of the long wait
time to get things done.
NOW that I have said my 2 cents worth I am very HAPPY with my Can Am Spyder and enjoy it
plenty, My guess is I will buy another one when I am ready for it.

 

[HankD]

Let's face it, none of us will ever be able to sell our Spyders for what we would want to get for them. Especially the '13 RT's, which you can't give away. But, the same holds true for just about any car, truck, motorcycle, etc. As soon as the salesman hands you the keys, the vehicle has depreciated by an average of 30%. If you paid $30k for a car five years ago, and wanted to sell it today for $25k, there is no way you would ever get that. So, you're stuck with it until you decide that, well, maybe $12k is good enough. Point is, you never get back what you put into any vehicle,

Well, my grandpa bought this new in 1951 for $4500. There is about $20K of rework put into it. It's worth about $70K. There are exceptions....:clap:

 

[wd8ajj]

Probably heard it from a dealer in Alaska!!!

 

[bscrive]

My wife loves her F3, but when it is out of warranty we may not keep it unless it has been reasonably trouble free. The prognosis is pretty good, so far, with others having high mileage and little to no issues. She doesn't put on a lot of miles each year, so the bike should last a while yet. So far, in the two years that she has had it, she has not had any issues. We hope that the trend continues even though she still has 3 more years of warranty left.
I think that when we see a new player on the 3 wheel market come in BRP will have no choice but to re-evaluate how much they charge for the Spyder and will be forced to come out with a less expensive version for the younger crowd. Why they haven't done so already is puzzling to me. I also do know that when Yamaha, or Honda does finally comes out with their reverse trike that a lot of people will leave BRP for the more 'reliable' brands. Especially, those that have had a lot of problems with their Spyder, or dealer.
As for the declining number of Spyders being sold, not at our dealer. They are still selling them almost as fast as they come in.

 

[RinconRyder]

Besides mine, I have spotted only two other Spyders on the road (and not in the immediate presence of our local mega-dealer) and that was 5-6 years ago. Took many trips on my last two Wings over the past 10 years and never saw a Spyder on the road. They are still rare as hen's teeth here in the desert.

Took mine to my local mega-dealer several weeks ago to get a key programmed and toured their service area. Full of side-by-sides but my Spyder was the only one there (and not for actual service).

 

[cmbspyderrss]

[h=1]I am 44yo with a 20yo mind and a 65yo body due to a back injury. I am new to the Can-Am brand and of course my Spyder. I bought my Spyder not because i spoke to someone who praised it but because it had a great motor, looked Bad Arse, was cheap and no way i could afford an F3T or L or RT. I have a few friends with Maverik Side by Sides and they love them. They recommended a local dealer called Vey's Powersports stating since day 1 of purchase and after they have always serviced it with excellent results and customer service. I changed the handle bars on my Spyder and talked to the head mechanic about my ignition switch problem. I was treated with some downright "I could give a Sh*t less" attitude. I was told Spyders are not popular and we are so busy with other Can Am products, Hondas, Yamahas and so on that i can't even put you on the books but if i wanted to i could call back in a few weeks. Um! Yeah no thanks.
[/h][h=1]I was brought up to tell the truth, be honest and give a true but fair opinion. Basically i don't sugar coat but i am respectful. I have not been able to use my Spyder for almost 3 weeks now due to the ignition but when i did ride it the first few weeks i have had a few people ask the normal questions. I stated i am new to the brand, the cost of mine, the cost of a new one, the models available and my riding experience. I stated i could only give my opinion based on my limited ownership and only about 200mi of ryding it. At that time from my conversation i bet i sold one and one walk away completely form the cost alone. [/h][h=1]I grew up racing dirt bikes using BulTacos, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki and Honda's. All were excellent bikes and would not trade the memories or learning experiences from any of them. The Can Am F3 is in the top tier price range for me and would love one some day. If Yamaha took the SRVenture DX and made it into a Trike for $15k i would buy one tomorrow. I could say the same thing about Honda, Suzuki or Kawasaki but they don't even make a snowmobile so venturing into a Trike market would be IMO the same $$ as a F3 or RT. I say that because i can hit no less than 6 Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki or Kawasaki dealers within 30min of me. I think there are the same amount that carry Can-Am but i would bet $$ that only one cares to work on or talk about Spyders. [/h]

 

[dpetrick]

Spyder sales

Dealers seem to play a large roll in how well a bike sells. There is a Honda dealer, about 60 miles from here, that is expanding to a brand new larger facility. People travel hundreds of miles to buy from them. If they would add CanAm, they would probably sell a lot of them. They have a great reputation.

The dealer that services my Spyder also sells Case-IH farm equipment, Kubota gear. They have a separate facility to sell CanAm products. They are a Platinum dealer, and I have been very pleased with their service. When I get service they offer me a demo bike to ride around while they service mine.

The dealer I bought it from sells only CanAm, and has a good selection of new and used Spyder. They also have a Harley dealership, right next to the CanAm building. Only reason I do not have them service it it is about 100 miles away. The one I use is about 40 miles away.

 

[Buckeye Chuck 54]

I saw a..

The latest issue of Rider magazine had a 4 page story on the 10 year anniversary of the Spyder. This is nice but these major motorcycle magazines don't give us our due. Rider last ran a test on the RT back in, I think, 2011. That review was not very nice, citing the Spyders poor gas mileage as their main problem.
It's part of the reason I waited for the 1330 ACE. But then how much did I spend on farkles, way over $2500, and counting. Potential buyers read this forum and see how much more needs done to get their expensive Spyders roadworthy.
My Spyder is the last cycle I'll ever own. I ride a lot and still get a little adrenalin surge every morning when it starts up.
Buckeye Chuck 54 (4036) 133,000 miles and counting.....

Second item in the column. Don't know where this information came from, so I can't vouch for its authenticity. Just wanted to put it out there.

http://ride-ct.com/if-you-had-asked-me-6/

 

[UtahPete]

The latest issue of Rider magazine had a 4 page story on the 10 year anniversary of the Spyder. This is nice but these major motorcycle magazines don't give us our due. Rider last ran a test on the RT back in, I think, 2011. That review was not very nice, citing the Spyders poor gas mileage as their main problem. It's part of the reason I waited for the 1330 ACE. But then how much did I spend on farkles, way over $2500, and counting. Potential buyers read this forum and see how much more needs done to get their expensive Spyders roadworthy. My Spyder is the last cycle I'll ever own. I ride a lot and still get a little adrenalin surge every morning when it starts up. Buckeye Chuck 54 (4036) 133,000 miles and counting.....

I'm not sure this is what you meant (bold above). I don't know of any Spyder that was not / is not roadworthy stock out the dealer's door. Some may consider their farkles to be 'necessary' add-ons, but are they really? Aren't they mostly a matter of choice to tune the suspension to one's taste, get even more performance, make it more comfortable, visible or whatever?

 

[Easy Rider]

because I will not get my money back out of a new one if I buy it

Almost nobody has that as their primary consideration when buying a new vehicle, mainly because it NEVER happens, at least not the way you have stated it.

If you are trying to "get your money back" on the one you are trying to sell, then your asking price probable is WAY too high. Depreciation is a bitch.
Have you checked into trading it in ?? Sometimes that can be the best option. Right now '17 models are being discounted heavily.

Then a bit of personal opinion: I think that the majority of riders who the Spyder appeals to are not really the "speed and sport" crowd. That might make the sport models harder to sell on the used market. Might.

 

[Easy Rider]

My Spyder is the last cycle I'll ever own. ..

That probably is the "elephant in the room" for a lot of Spyder owners.

But you didn't HAVE to come right out and say it out loud.

Now I'm going to have to go for a ride to get my mood back up again !! :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked:

 

[Road-Kill]

Actually you are in their demographic. Previously it was reported that 25% were never ridden, 25% were women, 25% had physical limitations, and the last 25% could ride two wheels but bought one because they were different. So there you are RoadKill you fit in to the BRP plan.

If what you are saying is true, and it probably is then yes I fit into their demographic, my mistake.

 

[PaladinLV]

Anyone . . . ANYONE, that emphasizes a HIGH price of a Can Am as being the "sales" problem has never "shopped" for a trike.
Check out the out-the-door price of a Harley UltraTrike, THEN tell me about the "high" price of a Can Am Spyder.

Sorry, but I give this ZERO credibility!

AJ

Second item in the column. Don't know where this information came from, so I can't vouch for its authenticity. Just wanted to put it out there.

http://ride-ct.com/if-you-had-asked-me-6/

 

[Road-Kill]

Anyone . . . ANYONE, that emphasizes a HIGH price of a Can Am as being the "sales" problem has never "shopped" for a trike.
Check out the out-the-door price of a Harley UltraTrike, THEN tell me about the "high" price of a Can Am Spyder.

Sorry, but I give this ZERO credibility!

AJ

Just because another brand demands a premium for its trike does not mean BRP is accurate in its price. I believe the Spyder is way over priced for what you get but most other brands are as well. Motorcycles are considered a luxury so they price them as such. Do you believe a Spyder or any MC is worth that of a high priced car/suv? I dont but I bought one anyway.