Just had my 1st service done - they used 4T 0W40 synthetic oil - anyone else?

[Sxvipere]

Had my 3000-mile service done on my 24 RTL today. I noticed they used 4T 0W40 synthetic oil. They have been a Can Am dealer for off & on rode vehicles as well as Skidoo sleds. Anyone else ever used this type of oil. Just didn't see it listed in manual. Thanks

Found it!



It's a Can Am product.

 

[Little Blue]

Just curious about the 'new' oil. Looking at the picture it does not highlight the Spyder.
Seems like an interesting point.

I checked with my local Spyder Dealer Technician and was told he would not use it in my Spyder RTL.
NO real reason was given.

Go figure....:thumbup:

 

[Sxvipere]

One of the pics is a Spyder???

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Had my 3000 mile service done on my 24 RYL today. I noticed they used 4T 0W40 synthetic oil. They have been a Can Am dealer for off & on rode vehicles as well as Skidoo sleds. Anyone else ever used this type of oil. Just didnt see it listed in manual. Thanks

No new oil for the Spyder in a 0W-40 weight. They used Skidoo oil. The pic of the Spyder is grayed out, indicating not to use it in the Spyder. The Spyder oil is 5W-40, and there is a Full Synthetic formula for the Spyder now, but it is still 5W-40. Again, they put the wrong oil in your Spyder. You know what to do.

 

[ARtraveler]

With picture grayed out on packaging, I would recommend a talk with the dealer to replace with "correct" oil.

Not an oil expert here so cannot say that the 0W would harm the engine if 5W is not used. Anxious to hear what others and the dealer have to say about this. :bowdown:

 

[Jetfixer]

It's Can Am oil, just wrong viscosity for a Spyder engine/transmission.

 

[TheMariner]

Yep, they did the old "Sell 'em what we have, not what they want". If 0w-40 was OK the manual would say it is.... and it doesn't. I'd go back ASAP & ask them to change it for the correct grade.

 

[Sxvipere]

Yep, they did the old "Sell 'em what we have, not what they want". If 0w-40 was OK the manual would say it is.... and it doesn't. I'd go back ASAP & ask them to change it for the correct grade.

Heading there this am. I'm 3.5 miles from the dealer

 

[Little Blue]

:chat:....I for sure, will be watching for your post up on the 'Spyder Oil'..

Hopefully this will go well for you.
Ask, Listen and Learn is my Tip.

Have a Safe Day. ....:thumbup:

 

[safecracker]

What area do you live in. I know most of the dealers from Greene Maine to Northern Maine. Bruce

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Concerning that Oil ...... Does it say that the oil is certified " JASO 2 " ?????? .....If it is I wouldn't be concerned about it.......Mike :thumbup:

 

[BajaRon]

Actually, you'll be fine. Though 0/40 isn't ideal, it won't hurt anything for one oil service. In my opinion, 5/40 isn't the best viscosity for a Spyder either unless you're starting that engine with the oil at sub zero temps. I wouldn't get too worked up over it. The lower number is much less important than the upper number.

Next time, take the oil that you want to use to the dealership and have them put that in.

Edit- Mike must have been typing at the same time. Didn't mean to duplicate his response.

 

[Tango]

Had my 3000-mile service done on my 24 RTL today. I noticed they used 4T 0W40 synthetic oil. They have been a Can Am dealer for off & on rode vehicles as well as Skidoo sleds. Anyone else ever used this type of oil. Just didn't see it listed in manual. Thanks

Found it!

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It's a Can Am product.

Notice the bottle says, "Full Synthetic". Description says, "Blend"..... :dontknow: Tom :spyder:

 

[BajaRon]

Notice the bottle says, "Full Synthetic". Description says, "Blend"..... :dontknow: Tom :spyder:

I noticed that as well. I believe it is a full synthetic. But it does make you wonder. The other fact to be aware of is that the only thing BRP about this product is the container which you throw away. Same goes for Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Honda, etc. You're paying a premium for the logo when you can get the same product for less money with the manufacturer's logo on the bottle.

 

[AndysF3S]

0W-40 designation from the Castrol site:
"Winter
It actually stands for Winter. That's because 0W-40 engine oil is formulated to flow like a 0 Weight oil in cold conditions, yet offer the protection of a 40 Weight motor oil when the engine reaches its full operating temperature."

The oil is thinner to meet the winter designation for cold flow but is the same 40 weight at operating temperature. No harm no foul in my mind. Those of us who live in Canada are used to using a 0W oil because of the better lubrication at colder temperatures on start-up and easier turnover of the engine to start it. As long as it was installed by a dealer it should not be an issue for warranty either. I have used 0W-40 in my previous GM diesel 6.6, 0W-30 in my wife's 3.6 Cadillac and 0W-40 in my 900 R Renegade XRS, Canam Defender 1000, and Outlander 1000 for years, and will continue to do so. On my next Spyder oil change I will use 10W-40 as recommended by the manufacturer of the oil. Folks living in the South where it is typically hotter need to pay attention to the 40-weight number for high temperature protection.

Blended oils tend to use pour point depressants to meet the 0W rating and VI improvers to meet the 40 rating both of which tend to shear out of grade sooner than full synthetics which can be formulated to meet 0W-40 with neither of the additives and provide better in-grade viscosity much longer. JMO and all owners can choose to run whatever they feel is correct for their Spyder.

I forgot to mention that my '22 3.0 Duramax runs 0W-20 oil (spec for NA) all year round and is a Turbo engine, but it does not have an integral gearbox.

If the OP is concerned about the 0W vs 10W of the oil installed, he can have the oil analyzed when it is scheduled to be changed again for peace of mind.

 

[Sxvipere]

I went the dealer this am to let them know what i discovered. The service mgr and parts mgr talked about it. They were apologetic and offered to come get it to make it right. I told them i would bring it tomorrow am, only 3 5 miles. The service mgr promised to make it right and said he would give me a coupon tomorrow for the next service on them.

 

[BajaRon]

That's very nice of them. They are trying to make you happy, which is a good thing. But frankly, totally unnecessary.

 

[troop]

1.) Unnecessary as the 0w40 oil will be just fine.
2.) Totally necessary as the dealership should really use the BRP oil recommended for Spyders. If that bottle is correct, BRP does not recommend that oil for the Spyder. If the dealer toes the company line, they should use a different oil.

 

[Little Blue]

The Spyder Dealer should have used XPS Oil # 177134. That is what my local Spyder Dealer is using.
You can bring in your own oil if you want to.

Have a Blessed Day. ....:thumbup:

 

[bikerbillone]

Giving that dealer a thumbs up for his courtesy. it's rare.