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Just a quick question from a newer operator - are these revs OK?

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DW190273

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Hello All,

I purchased a 2020 F3S from my stepfather last October. Pretty much new at 600 miles. It's since had It's first oil change and is hovering around 2300 miles.

My question is this:

I ride it to work most days and it's mostly interstate miles. Are they designed to handle that hanging 5000 rpm range at 80 mph for any amount of time?

I drive my Honda accord and it purrs at 2000 rpm at 80, so to keep up with traffic running 5000 rpms to do 80 feels excessive to me, but perhaps I'm just not accustomed to that engine.

Experiences please.

Thanks all.

Mike
 
DW190273 said:
Hello All,

I purchased a 2020 F3S from my stepfather last October. Pretty much new at 600 miles. It's since had It's first oil change and is hovering around 2300 miles.

My question is this:

I ride it to work most days and it's mostly interstate miles. Are they designed to handle that hanging 5000 rpm range at 80 mph for any amount of time?

I drive my Honda accord and it purrs at 2000 rpm at 80, so to keep up with traffic running 5000 rpms to do 80 feels excessive to me, but perhaps I'm just not accustomed to that engine.

Experiences please.

Thanks all.

Mike
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Where can you go 80 MPH in NY ????? ...... Are you in 6 th gear ?????? ..... Mike :thumbup:
 
DW190273 said:
Hello All,

I purchased a 2020 F3S from my stepfather last October. Pretty much new at 600 miles. It's since had It's first oil change and is hovering around 2300 miles.

My question is this:

I ride it to work most days and it's mostly interstate miles. Are they designed to handle that hanging 5000 rpm range at 80 mph for any amount of time?

I drive my Honda accord and it purrs at 2000 rpm at 80, so to keep up with traffic running 5000 rpms to do 80 feels excessive to me, but perhaps I'm just not accustomed to that engine.

Experiences please.

Thanks all.

Mike
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:congrats:

and :welcome:


I'll let some people chime in that have the F3S spyder models.

Deanna
 
Yes I agree, I too wish it had that higher "prairie" gear. I just don't want to put excessive wear on the engine with too many rpms.

Although legally there's nowhere you can do 80 in nys, unfortunately on the thruway if you're not doing 80 you're a speed-up. Yes I'm in 6th gear...lol

Thanks for the welcome, and the replies folks.
 
That 1330 ACE engine from Rotax in your F3S really won't be bothered by doing 5000 rpm all day, or all year for that matter - if you can afford the fuel bill! :thumbup: . Just keep it maintained as per the schedule, and ....

Ride More, Worry Less! :ohyea:
 
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DW190273 said:
Yes I agree, I too wish it had that higher "prairie" gear. I just don't want to put excessive wear on the engine with too many rpms.

Although legally there's nowhere you can do 80 in nys, unfortunately on the thruway if you're not doing 80 you're a speed-up. Yes I'm in 6th gear...lol

Thanks for the welcome, and the replies folks.
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:thumbup: ... OK - the 1330 engine is designed to give the best mileage at about 50 mph ..... 80 is going to give a serious decrease .... as you have found out ...... Mike :thumbup:
 
Maybe you can change the sprocket for lower RPMs. The loss of acceleration would be minimal. As stated, above 50-60 mph the 1330 gets thirsty.
 
I worry about RPM's sometimes as well. As in do not want to lug the engine. So I typically try and always keep my RPM's between 3k-3500K at all times. Of course, you hit 6th gear on a highway and it will climb into the 4K range.

So I think 5K RPM in 6th gear at 80MPH sounds about right.
 
RayBJ said:
Maybe you can change the sprocket for lower RPMs. The loss of acceleration would be minimal. As stated, above 50-60 mph the 1330 gets thirsty.
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Apart from completely modifying &/or replacing the ECU & playing with/possibly losing some of the computer controlled features, I don't believe anyone's successfully managed to do this yet, despite quite a few valiant efforts! :banghead:
 
i also like my rpm's around 3500-4000... i hardly go over 65 mph.. once and i while i will get on it and shift at 6000 rpms. doing 80 mph like nothing... how fast will this thing go ? whats the top speed on this 2020 F3L... not not i will go that fast..
 
RayBJ said:
Maybe you can change the sprocket for lower RPMs. The loss of acceleration would be minimal. As stated, above 50-60 mph the 1330 gets thirsty.
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Folks have changed Sprockets ...... and the NANNY didn't like it :gaah: .... if it's an SE trans .... manual may be different .... JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:
 
acdcking12 said:
I worry about RPM's sometimes as well. As in do not want to lug the engine. So I typically try and always keep my RPM's between 3k-3500K at all times. Of course, you hit 6th gear on a highway and it will climb into the 4K range.

So I think 5K RPM in 6th gear at 80MPH sounds about right.
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" LUG ENGINE " ..... Your SE trans won't do that ...... JMHO .... Mike :thumbup:
 
fredgal said:
i also like my rpm's around 3500-4000... i hardly go over 65 mph.. once and i while i will get on it and shift at 6000 rpms. doing 80 mph like nothing... how fast will this thing go ? whats the top speed on this 2020 F3L... not not i will go that fast..
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Hard to say exactly, but a stock condition RTL with a capable ryder, a good day, and with enough straight & level road ahead shouldn't be incapable of reaching about 134 mph/215kph... and while an F3L hast push a bunch of air ahead of it, an RTL hasta push a whole shed load more air ahead of it than any F3L!! :shocked:

And then there's those of us with ECU Upgrades!! :ohyea: :yes: . The only bad thing about this is that regardless of the model, the 'whole shed load of air' thing that needs to get pushed down the road is still pretty much the same - and that has a significant impact on how fast anything'll go! :banghead:
 
My f3s tops out @180 Kp/h, and I have a tuned ecu, mine is more tuned for torque, the off the line speed, so to say, 180 kp/h is fast ennuf....
 
Just a FYI, lugging your engine is hi throttle settings at low RPM's. You can run the Can Am all day long at low rpm's using light throttle settings. Just because you are cruising along at low speeds in a higher gear does not mean you are Lugging the motor, however should you decide to increase your speed, rather than opening your throttle in that high gear and low speed (low RPM's) thus lugging the engine, down shift and then open the throttle.
 
So then what would lugging the engine look like? I feel that if I am in 4th gear and the RPM's are below 3K, I feel like I am lugging the engine.

So if that is not, what would be a good example of it?
 
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