ISCI handbrake....better news

[RoHo]

looking forward to your inbox info Roho. thanks in advance.:2thumbs:

Here is a link to the album of my handbrake and parking brake mod's. Hope these are helpful!
Roho

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/album.php?albumid=362

 

[RoadHammer]

does the master cylinder bolt to the outside of nmn riser handle bar bolt? Is that a custom bracket?

 

[RoHo]

does the master cylinder bolt to the outside of nmn riser handle bar bolt? Is that a custom bracket?

It bolts on the 7/8" bar between the control module and the NMN riser. The bracket is integral with the R6 Master Cylinder/Lever Assembly. The dealership that installed my NMN risers cut my 7/8" bar too short and I had to go to Evan at NMN for a new bar so I would have enought space to mount the master cylinder. By the way, this left me with an extra bar with attached grip that I used to fabricate my parking brake extension you see in my album. The bracket holding the reservoir is custom. Michael fabricated the reservoir bracket, the slave cylinder bracket and the clevis that attaches the slave cylinder to the top of the OEM brake assembly. The hydralic hose was fabricated by a local motorcyle dealership. You can have Michael do that for you or go to a local shop there for your hose.
Roho

 

[Pete Denzer]

Complete prefab kits cost more

$1400 is a bit spendy, but not so bad when you consider the quality of the components and the fact that it is completely prefabricated so you don't have to drill, weld or engineer anything. It's like the difference between a prefab home and a built-from-scratch domicile; obviously, when all the sticks are cut to the right length and angle (ever try mitering rafters for a hip roof?) and sub assemblies are already put together for you, the price is higher. It is my understanding that ISCI is using a Brembo master cylinder, name-brand steel braid brake line with clear plastic coating so as not to chafe your precious bodywork, and a slave cylinder of the correct bore size made in-house. The bracket is powder-coated and looks strong enough to be flex-free. The hook-up to the brake pedal is elegantly simple, not sure if it is an original idea, but I bet that everyone is going to copy it. Sure, you can gather up the necessary parts by themselves, consult with other Spyder Lovers about bore ratios and the like, borrow tools, get friends involved with fabrication, and wind up with the same system for less than half as much. What you pay ISCI (or any other specialty fabrication shop) for is NOT having to do all of the above. Some guys enjoy it, I'm past that point, I just want to ride and be able to stop using a handbrake lever in addition to the foot brake. Note: I am NOT writing in behalf of ISCI or any other company, as always, I just am expressing MHO.

 

[NancysToy]

$1400 is a bit spendy, but not so bad when you consider the quality of the components and the fact that it is completely prefabricated so you don't have to drill, weld or engineer anything. It's like the difference between a prefab home and a built-from-scratch domicile; obviously, when all the sticks are cut to the right length and angle (ever try mitering rafters for a hip roof?) and sub assemblies are already put together for you, the price is higher. It is my understanding that ISCI is using a Brembo master cylinder, name-brand steel braid brake line with clear plastic coating so as not to chafe your precious bodywork, and a slave cylinder of the correct bore size made in-house. The bracket is powder-coated and looks strong enough to be flex-free. The hook-up to the brake pedal is elegantly simple, not sure if it is an original idea, but I bet that everyone is going to copy it. Sure, you can gather up the necessary parts by themselves, consult with other Spyder Lovers about bore ratios and the like, borrow tools, get friends involved with fabrication, and wind up with the same system for less than half as much. What you pay ISCI (or any other specialty fabrication shop) for is NOT having to do all of the above. Some guys enjoy it, I'm past that point, I just want to ride and be able to stop using a handbrake lever in addition to the foot brake. Note: I am NOT writing in behalf of ISCI or any other company, as always, I just am expressing MHO.

:agree: If I wanted a handbrake for the Spyder, I'd certainly consider this. Seems like a decent price considering the quality engineering. Compared to $500-$1,000 for a new seat, $700 for a BRP backrest and sport rack, $1,000-$1,800 for saddlebags, etc. It seems to be in line with what the market will bear for something that is more important than a mere frill.
-Scotty

 

[Wheelz]

I had a little brain fart there with this gimpy mind :shocked: When I first did my system over a year ago, the only option for us was tapping into the system and eliminating the brake pedal. Then as more riders got involved, the slave cylinder came about. So, I was still in the old frame of mind. As NancysToys stated, it's plenty of power to apply that pedal. I was going to convert back over but didn't want to deal with the mounting brackets and clevis's being fabbed up and the down time to get it installed. I wanted to ride! So, i guess that powerpoint gave you good direction?

Now, how are you putting gas in? I made a filler neck like Jumper did and it works awesome. No more using Jerry Cans to fill up. But now I have to patch my center panel cause I drilled one to many holes dang-it! I can stay on the spyder now to fill up. I can just packup and go now. But with the kind of heat under the tupperware, I dont think this ABS tubing will last long. I need to get something fabbed up out of aluminum.

Ride safe!

Wheelz,
The more I've thought about this the more I think I know why 16mm seems to be working. On this setup, all the master cylinder and slave cylinder I've added is doing is pushing on the original brake mechanism. The original brakes have not been altered and are designed to accomodate all three wheels. All my addition (or I should say the modification originally described by NEXUS and Trikester) is doing is causing the original system to be engaged and does not require a lot of pressure. This seems to make sense to me. Any thoughts from some of our more experienced riders???
Roho :dontknow:

 

[RoHo]

Wheelz,
I'm just now looking at doing Jumper's mod for a filler neck. I've been looking at flexible stainless steel radiator hose or the silicone radiator hose and not using pvc. There is enough room at the filler on the gas tank to clamp a silicone hose, so you shouldn't have to use the pvc elbow at all. This should allow you to run the hose from the marine filler neck straight to the original tank. When I finish, I'll post pic's.
Roho

I had a little brain fart there with this gimpy mind :shocked: When I first did my system over a year ago, the only option for us was tapping into the system and eliminating the brake pedal. Then as more riders got involved, the slave cylinder came about. So, I was still in the old frame of mind. As NancysToys stated, it's plenty of power to apply that pedal. I was going to convert back over but didn't want to deal with the mounting brackets and clevis's being fabbed up and the down time to get it installed. I wanted to ride! So, i guess that powerpoint gave you good direction?

Now, how are you putting gas in? I made a filler neck like Jumper did and it works awesome. No more using Jerry Cans to fill up. But now I have to patch my center panel cause I drilled one to many holes dang-it! I can stay on the spyder now to fill up. I can just packup and go now. But with the kind of heat under the tupperware, I dont think this ABS tubing will last long. I need to get something fabbed up out of aluminum.

Ride safe!